TNB Allo Open Fibre Network Has Now Expanded to Certain Ipoh Suburbs

Allo Technology Sdn. Bhd (AS45410)

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Upstream providers/transit partners:
NTT Communications Asia & Hurricane Electric(HE)

IPv4 Peers



Fibre modem(ONU) that is currently used by Allo Technology S/B for installations in Ipoh:

Huawei Echolife HG8010H



The router being supplied alongside the ONU is a TP-Link Archer A6



Pricing by Allo partner ISPs (subjected to removed/added from time to time):

City Broadband Home Fibre Plans For TNB's Allo



*No end date mentioned for this promotion so it might be new price adjustments.
Source: https://www.citybroadband.my/residential/

Suggested ping and speedtest sites to measure your speed/latency:


How to determine the best 3rd party public DNS server to use for your internet connection?

You can use a DNS Speed Test app to benchmark different public DNS servers. You would want to use one which has the LOWEST latency attained for faster loading time.

How to know if your fibre install is properly done and within acceptable insertion loss range:

When your installation completes, before the installer plugs the connector into the fibre modem(ONT), requests that he uses a OPM(Optical power meter) to verify your line's optical return loss when transmitting light signals over a source.



Anything between the range of -18.0dBm to -22.0dBm should be optimum enough(for new installs) to support symmetrical 1Gbps speeds on your GPON line.

The maximum optical return loss allowable according to Rec. ITU-T G.984.2 (08/2019) Table A.2 – Class B+ loss budgets for the GPON system is 28dB (1310nm)
https://www.itu.int/rec/dologin_pub.asp?lan...DF-E&type=items

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This post has been edited by Candy12: Jan 29 2021, 02:34 PM

Maxis Access Agreement with TNB’s Subsidiary, Allo



https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/12/12/maxis...d-malaysia-skg/

A few serious DRAWBACKS from me latest study of the TNB's Allo setup.

1) They are targeting areas which are still offering Streamyx old copper lines by TM so that it'll not overlap with Unifi. However these areas are lower middle income or majority B40 housing areas with low spending power.

There are still many areas in Ipoh CBD and closer to the city suburbs which are deprived of TM Unifi infra. For example Jln. Pasir Putih, many of the business shoplots and older homes there still under miserable Streamyx copper infra over 30 years.
Also the mass housing area sandwiched between Jalan Bendahara and Station 18, all still no Unifi infra. These areas houses Ipoh's main coffee shops establishment and the homes there have higher spending power. These areas are just under 5km from TNB's Lahat HQ for Perak.

2) For the Perak's Allo Fibre division by TNB, only one ISP signed up until today which is ASTRO Broadband.
The other areas such as Cyberjaya, Bangsar South and Jasin, Melaka got many other ISP choices such as:
Celcom, DiGi, Maxis, ViewQWest and even TM Unifi sharing their infra.

3) The ASTRO Broadband contract has a RM1500 EARLY termination penalty if you terminate your 24 months contract before lapse. They are claiming higher termination fee because of supplying an expensive IPTV TV decoder which has built in HDD for PVR function on top of the router and ONT.

4) TNB's Allo is not a fully open fibre network. It is similar to HSBB where TNB's telco division City Broadband maintains both the PASSIVE fibre infrastucture and ACTIVE switches/OLTs/edge routers before passing the packets over to RSPs. That is why the fibre modem(ONT) is still the SAME for all ISPs you subscribe except the routers.Whether you use DiGi, Celcom, Maxis, Astro Broadband or any other partner isp you'll be given this because you need to go through their OLTs first.


TNB Allo's Calix 813G GigaHub Fibre Modem(ONT)

Thanks for sharing. I'm one of the resident of the listed coverage area at above. Now still considering whether to get this Astro & Broadband or wait for other telco's plan.

What I concern the most is their internet stability and any cap to the upload speed, because my gf's home is using unifi 10MBps but the upload speed feels like 1MBps something only.

Is your home already served by TM Unifi's HSBB coverage? Chances are the might not cover the area in your housing garden already served by TM.

Yes do wait for other ISPs to join the network. The Astro Broadband deal is not quite appealing. It has a RM1500 early termination penalty and they force bundle ASTRO IPTV with it.

The parent ISP, City Broadband offers 100Mbps for the same price at RM99 only.

ahh why no coverage in bercham aww man.

Bercham, Tasek, Ipoh Gardens, Canning and Kg Simee all that area is TM territory.
The main Perak NoC and data centre for TM is the Tasek building there.

For TNB, the main Perak NoC and datacentre is at Lahat Road next to ACS.
Time's NOC and exchange for Perak is at First Garden nearby Buntong.

Both TNB and Time Fibre operation data centres are both at the South section of Ipoh city which is nearer to KL/Cyberjaya.

oh I finally got the idea of how it works, it's like TM & TNB have their own territory and there's no overlapping. The bundle is ok for my family because if without the internet we still need to pay for Astro anyways, but the RM1500 early termination fee is really crazy (24 months contract).

Got some rumours that TNB has only installed 4 (or very limited number) ports for each row of houses, do you have any idea?

The rumours you're hearing is wrong. Easily each cable that runs along the row of houses would contain at least 6 cores of fibre strand inside that'll further split into 8 ports with a passive splitter inside the FDP white box on the pole.

If what you've heard is 4, then it would mean TNB will be placing 4 FDP boxes(each served by 1 fibre strand) for each row of houses.

4 x 8 ports = 32 ports.

Unless there are more than 32 homes per row where you live, that's more than enough ports to cover each home in the same row where you live.

Then I think its a marketing strategy being used by the company and the sales person, they spread that rumour to make people sign up internet plan with them faster.

Btw thanks for the great information!

Wait for other ISPs to come in. Currently they only have 1 ISP which joined the Ipoh's Allo Fibre network.

In the mature areas such as Cyberjaya, Bangsar South and Melaka there are actually more than 5 ISPs to choose from.

Got City Broadband, Celcom, DiGi, Maxis, ViewQwest and even TM Unifi to choose from. Some of them even offering 100Mbps as low as RM99.

Ya ya I wonder why the first ISP landed is Astro instead of City Broadband, hope the installation can be done sooner I cant wait to try Fibre's speed in Ipoh. (Been living in Penang and KL for few years with 100MBps internet speed)

Maybe Astro is the only popular brand most Ipoh people heard about. The other ISPs want to observe first before investing. The TNB state branch not proactively inviting other ISPs to invest and now with the economy downturn,many companies are cautious with expansion.

Who is the upstream ISP (international circuit provider) for Allo?

can I check coverage with you?

awww shot man, so screwed then but there is a huge TNB hq in tangjung rambutan though.. wouldnt that be a potential datacenter?

Upstream providers differ from different ISPs(retail service providers) that are on their open network.
For example, Astro, Celcom, DiGi and Maxis all have their own upstream links. TNB only builds the last mile infra linking your home to the datacentre and then each isp has their own route.

I'm not affiliated with TNB Allo. If want to know more can contact them directly with the phone number listed on their website.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jun 25 2020, 04:13 PM

That is not a HQ, just a district office.They'll not want to be nearby TM Tasek to clash with them because 2 are competing companies.

Ya agreed.

Ya ya agreed.

This TNB Allo is actually that Tenaga TNB?

Yes, TNB also entering telco business now. It's bigger company than even TM.

As electricity utility company, they're now building fibre optics network around the country.

Soon tm will zaplap cz of tnb

Thanks for the explanation. I'm in Ipoh Garden. Sad my area is not covered by Allo too. I hope they'll expand their coverage as well as other ISPs

This post has been edited by MysticShadow: Jun 25 2020, 09:39 PM

main telco and power supply always own by gov.

They're slowly expanding but it'll take time many areas in Ipoh still not covered. They will cover areas where now still under copper telephone and TM has not launched Unifi yet to avoid double overlap.

If your housing garden(taman) already got TM Unifi just that a particular road isnt' serve with a FDP, this areas will also not be prioritized.

They'll first cover areas where TM totally neglected and hasn't built fibre infra there yet.

We have areas just directly opposite the road of TNB's Perak HQ at Jalan Lahat and Jalan Bendahara also do not have coverage yet. Their expansion seem very slow and now with the economy like this, it'll even be delayed longer.

Let the project mature first with more ISPs joining in. Now only got one ISP to choose only which is Astro Broadband. They force bundling of ASTRO TV service with it that's why very few sign ups.The price quite competitive 50M symmetrical for RM99, TM cannot compete with this.

Got another TNB Allo ISP not yet come in which is City Broadband, their reference pricing is internet only 100M for RM99. If they come in sure sapu all.

Information from Newspaper said，TNB allo will extend his services to silibin and papan after Menglembu area...
Second stage will extend to Botani, Ampang area

These are southern sections of Ipoh city then. Pasir Putih is sandwich between TNB HQ at Jln. Lahat and Botani.

Time Broadband, Perak operations centre is at First Garden nearby Silibin. If you've been there before you will see they use shipping containers to build their exchange centre like those from Google.

Actually I from Menglembu, and waiting the ISP open for apply services, wish this fibre will stable and fast

Still very premature at this time. Only got 1 ISP to choose from which is Astro Broadband. Also the maintenance not really good, over last few days heavy rain poured. Some of the tree branches fell on the fibre cables but TNB didn't remove.Not good impression for TNB staffs.

Yup，Astro dealer hv approach my
House for promote this broadband services， but I prefer City broadband which also under TNB, the price more worth than other ISP , So need to wait until July or August

What I understand is a lot lof areas still haven't setup the FDP box on the poles. It'll take some time. Now only pulling the fibre. The fibre cables very easy to identify got special color coding not yellow stripes like older TM ones.

The fibre cable is black in color with orange patches(black-orange-black-orange blocks/tompok).

RM99 for 100M symmetrical



*Cheaper than Time Broadband because serving landed homes.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jun 26 2020, 07:17 PM

The boxes already install behind my house during MCO⋯ so just waiting announcement from City Broadband when can apply only⋯

I definitely hope it will come to my area as soon as possible, been stucked at 4mbps for ages. By the way, my area is in Ipoh Garden

Give it 1-2 years for the expansion to take place, now post MCO Malaysia's economy is struggling.

Many bachelors still prefer to go on no contract deals because of no commitments while many are still on fixed line contracts won't be able to take up new offers because being tied.

Now only got 1 ISP offering its service on this network, more to come.

From my understanding. TNB is the 1 that provide physical infrastructure like laying fibre and connecting it to houses.

But the services is openup to multiple player such as Astro maxis, city broadband and etc.

yup，basically you are right⋯ but until now， we not sure hv any other ISP or not and what is the deal between allo and astro? maybe contract only allow Astro ISP in Menglembu？ So we need to wait the official announcement ...

Just received call from promoter， Now can apply maxis ⋯

@Candy12 I tried to apply for Maxis Fibre but their Customer Service called to say that after checking with their Maxperts, even though my area has fibre cables, because I’m in a low-rise building the management needs to contract them or Unifi to install the cables first. There’s already someone holding the rights to do the installation cos she said Maxis is blocked from checking further - not sure what she means by this.

This post has been edited by MysticShadow: Jul 3 2020, 04:47 PM

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/tnb-...80%94-saifuddin

More areas will enjoy TNB Fiber by 1Q 2021

It means your building JMB or management hasn't signup with either telco provider yet for service commencement. You have to chase or advise your building management/JMB to contact the interested fibre provider to hook up your building first before they can start servicing your building.

The hold up is your building management board which is delaying the whole process because of being indecisive.

Maybe this is good news, maybe... City broadband FB official page, some of the post got #ipoh

https://pictr.com/images/2020/07/07/7gVmi2.md.jpg

maybe city broadband coming to ipoh area?

Yeah can try contacting Allo/City Broadband HQ at Cyberjaya to enquire about their service expansion to Ipoh.

1-300-38-8000

https://allo.my/contact-us/

There are already 4 or more ISPs servicing TNB Allo covered areas in Cyberjaya, and Jasin, Malacca at the moment as announced in the latest news:

Astro Broadband
City Broadband
DiGi
Maxis

The reference pricing is based on City Broadband's pricing model which is a subsidiary of TNB for all participating telcos in the open infra.

They are ON PAR if not even better than Time Home Fibre's pricing. All plans have symmetrical speed.

50M/50M - RM79/mth
100M/100M - RM99/mth
500M/500M - RM139/mth
1Gbps/1Gbps - RM199/mth


It is even more attractive than Time Fibre.

OLT/ONT equipment provider is by Calix who completed full acquisition of Ericsson Fiber Access Solutions.

May I know this router can support mesh wifi modem or not？

Thanks mate

Ah yes, I just read through this thread about City Broadband:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4324810

Here is what I discovered from users in Cyberjaya:

1) City Broadband uses an all in one router ONT supplied by Calix(formerly known as Ericsson Fiber Division)

2) You can opt to supply your own GPON transceiver stick by informing them the MAC ID to include in their greenlist. They allow this option.

There's one user who managed to supply his own GPON SFP+ transceiver and paired it with a Mikrotik CCR1036 to use the service.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=87747776

3) It is the FIRST ISP in Malaysia to use 3rd party public DNS servers pre-configured in their routers. Instead of maintaining their own DNS server, City Broadband uses Google DNS.

4) If you want to use your own 3rd party router, you can always disable the routing function of the ONT and put it as static bridge to only supply IP only to your own router.

5) They do not use PPPoE as authentication is made by equipment MAC ID? No VLAN involved which is great as it is similar to Time Home Fibre style? Not using PPPoE suggest they're IPoE based?

I'm not surprised that all the issues faced by TM and Time Fibre is improved and resolved by TNB Allo Fibre. They're Malaysia's newest open fibre network so everything is planned more carefully.

5) Ping to Singapore from Cyberjaya can get as low as 4ms.Local server ping rates as shown can go as low as 1ms.

6) By default users get CGNAT(carrier grade NAT) but you can request for public IP from your ISP.

7) The 1Gbps plan is also symmetrical unlike other ISPs such as Time Fibre and TM which can only offer at half rate.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jul 8 2020, 09:39 PM

Too much professional word😅，quite cant understand⋯ so can I use their Calix modem and then using TpLink M4 for building the Mesh wifi system？

because from city broadband user opinon，Calix Wi-Fi not good enough compare with other modem， am I right？

6) By default users get CGNAT(carrier grade NAT) but you can request for public IP from your ISP.

What is that mean ?
By default , give u private ip ?

Yes, you can. Just disable DHCP server, wireless and assign a fixed IP to the Calix router so that it becomes a bridge(modem) gateway. That will relay all the routing and wireless AP function to your 3rd party Mesh router instead.

They even allow to buy your own compatible ONT/GPON transceiver stick to power up your own enterprise router.

Yes, by default they will give private IP. The reason is not because of conserving public IP addresses but also to help secure most subscribers from becoming zombified DDoS machines when getting attacked by viruses.

Major FTTH ISPs are also providing CGNAT(private IPs) by default, you can personally request for public IP if you have need for it.

I just ask city broadband dealer, he said 100mbps not enough for mesh wifi, should get the higher speed one, Is that true?

There is no such thing as minimum speed to support mesh wifi, just that it's wasted if you use a powerful router if used with a slower plan.

30M or 50M plans will also work with your mesh system.

Once you disable DHCP, turn off wireless and set a fix ip for your Calix ONT router, it becomes a dumb modem that relays all routing function to your 3rd party router acting only as a gateway.

He's just trying to upsell you with a higher end plan.Maybe they want to see if there's demand for higher end package plans before starting to offer the service in Ipoh.

TQ for your advise. I think will try city broadband 100mbps first, see WiFi good enough or not, If not I will buy a new router to use...

Beside that, the dealer inform me city broadband almost ready services in Menglembu, just wait Allo to announce actual date.

Great news! Hope it won't take long to come to my area(Ipoh Garden)

Unfortunately, the next target will extend to silibin,papan, botani and ampang, you may go to city broadband and leave down a message to them regrading Request demands from Ipoh garden (if can collect more people request from Ipoh garden will be great)
And also need to find out your area got unifi or not, If got, I think Allo won’t extend to your area

City broadband is for high rise apartment , right ?

To be frank, if you're just subscribing to 100M plan, don't waste your money buying an expensive MESH system just to extend wireless coverage in your home. It's a pure waste. A 2.4GHz 40MHz channel WiFi with a few cheap extenders placed at blindspots around your home is more than enough.

Just days back I saw the Xiaomi 300Mbps Wireless extenders only costs below RM40 a unit.

I've also checked that the advanced Calix GigaCenter ONT router they supplied for the higher end package has a drawback of not being able to set bridge mode to pass on the routing function to your 3rd party router should you need to provide your own.

There are a few workaround methods for it.

1) You can disable the WiFi function on the ISP GigaCenter router itself, provide a static IP for your 3rd party router then place the your 3rd party router's IP on DMZ mode.

2) You can disable the WiFi function on the ISP GigaCenter router itself, disable the DHCP server in your 3rd party router/Mesh system settings turning it into a plain wireless AP mode.

3) Provide your own router and GPON transceiver stick with an appointed installer/technician to configure it by the hour rate or the lower end plans below 500M are given Calix GigaHubs ONT fibre modems to which allow bridge mode for partner ISPs to supply their own routers. Also Calix has compatible Mesh adapters to work specifically for the GigaCenter model.

The taller and bigger sized all-in-1 GigaCenter model is for the higher end plans which does not have bridge mode. So you need to use either Method 1 or 2 or supply your own router with SFP+ GPON stick.

For landed using fibre running on TNB(Tenaga) electricity poles.

city broadband have its own network for fiber service?

ping 4ms to sg is incredible

Acquired by Tenaga(TNB) and renamed to Allo Technology as its telco division.

Local server ping as low as only 1ms. That is Cyberjaya users to a Cyberjaya based server using a 1Gbps symmetrical line.

I see... well, i still can wait. My area do not have unifi, already requested many times and tm won't entertain anymore. So i hope that it will come before year 2023.

means TNB have its own upstream and downstream and not linked to TM ?

allo should be black colour （in menglembu area）


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Seems like TNB Allo also start to expand Melaka coverage as well, saw they start to pull fibre cable in my Taman (Alor Gajah Melaka) before MCO, and after MCO they start to pull to area nearby my Taman

Inquired City Broadband about their coverage in my Taman, and they replied only Astro Broadband is available, need to wait some time before City Broadband expand to my Taman

Same with my home town (Menglembu), Allo expand at my Taman during MCO period, But until now still not yet open for services... Hopefully in this month.

What is this for? Power supply for FDP??
https://pictr.com/image/7mbuon

This is for splitting the fiber cable on road junctions. You can google Fiber Optic Splice Closure.

Thanks for the explanation

oh one more question, where does those FDP power source come from?

it's Passive, no require any power. they simply use Light Physics

Wow didn't know that. Thank for explaining

https://www.commscope.com/product-type/cabi...plice-closures/

Actually can't wait to subscribe to any fibre speed broadband provider... been ages with that streamyx 4mbps at Menglembu... giving up hope to TM Unifi, juz across road my TMN to other TMN... n they really dont or uninterested expand a little more meters away... yrs back gather with neighborhood to TM point for demand, it's silence only. Finally TNB Astro Allo City... go for it dy

I've been checking this thread everyday, hope that it will come to my area fast

Same here because Menglembu has been stuck with streamyx for far too long. Glad I can finally get rid of this sh*tty TM isp. Waiting for city broadband to join.

Agree with you all⋯ Today Maxis fibre dealer has give leaflet in my Taman⋯ but I want to try City broadband first, see stable or not...

Doesn't look like TNB fibre cables, they have yellow stipes which belongs to TM.

I can see the 2nd picture it's running on telephone poles used by TM along with old copper telephone wires.
The cable by TNB runs on electricity poles instead.

The fibres used by TNB has orange patches on the cable unlike TM with yellow stripes.
Its pattern is like black-orange-black-orange-black...

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jul 17 2020, 11:20 PM

some things like this， example for TNB cable inMenglembu，not sure other place same or not


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Yes that's right, you see the orange patch in between? It's not like TM's cables where you have yellow stripe along the whole cable length. It's like orange colored patches(tompok) in between.

Hmm not sure if it is really TNB or not, but i've contacted City Broadband through the number on their website and they said City Broadband will come to my Taman very soon.

And today there is Maxis staff come to promote their Fibre plan at my Taman and they said my Taman is using TNB Allo infra, but haven't fully set up yet, so they will provide a dongle for me to test only.

I also asked them about their upload speed which is only 50Mbps for 100Mbps plan, isn't TNB Allo infra able to provide symmetrical speed? I guess it most likely is not TNB infra.

Well at least my Taman have fibre support no need use snail Unifi lite



This post has been edited by hammuheado: Jul 18 2020, 12:16 PM

That's the wonder of open fibre networks, ISPs or they call RSPs in SG can sell packages with different speed rates as they want, just that if it's unattractive people might avoid not choosing it.

The reason why Maxis is fixing their upload speed to 50Mbps is because they want to synchronize their plans across all networks including TM HSBB and Celcom Timur Sabah(CTS). They don't want some group of people suddenly marching to their centres protesting of unfair practices and why they sold them slower upload speeds on TM HSBB etc.

However here are the differences between the ISP plans on Allo.

1) With ASTRO Broadband, it might seem cheaper than Maxis Broadband with 50Mbps symmetrical speed and bundled ASTRO basic plan bvIPTV with PVR set-top box that allows recording. Early termination penalty is steep at RM1500.

2) Maxis Home Fibre is the most expensive here which is the same rate as their TM HSBB offering but the early termination penalty is a lot cheaper at RM500 with offer to have a home fixed line for just an extra RM10 with unlimited local calls(fixed/mobile).
There's a hidden and less promoted plan by Maxis though under the brand Hotlink Postpaid & Fibre Bundle.
https://www.hotlink.com.my/en/plan/hotlink-...paid-and-fibre/
For RM99/mth you get 30Mbps symmetrical + Hotlink Flex Plus 60 mobile line under the same bill bundle.The Flex Plus 60 account plan alone is already worth RM60 which is really a very good offer which means a symmetrical 30M FTTH plan only costs RM39 more only.

3) City Broadband. They offer symmetrical speeds across all plans upto 1Gbps. Most will only subscribe to their data plan but you will need a separate call plan outside.

who know whats is mean ‘ IT will be RFS by latest end of August. ‘ ，the RFS Means ？

request for service??

Is that correct?⋯ this message from Allo worker ⋯

It looks thinner than those TM is using

Berita baru, Astro sudah Mula pasang di Menglembu area...

Ready for Service (RFS)?

Of course it's thinner these cables are the last stretch that is used to connect FDPs with a 1x8 splitter inside.
At most it's a 4-strand(core) which is why it's much thinner unlike TM which pulls a big fat one into a row of houses but only provide 1 FDP to serve over 20 homes.

If there's 5 FDP behind the row of houses, that means you've to run 5 of this thinner cables containing less cores inside to each FDP branching out from a nearby junction cone box(black). It's a smarter strategy for future proofing.

TM pulls just one single FAT cable(with more cores) into just a FDP serving your home? That's awful bad planning.
What if they need to install another new FDP a few metres away from the old one later on if need arise?
1)Find an unused strand(core), splice it and pull another cable out of the existing box to connect the next FDP box?
2)Run another fat cable directly all the way from a nearby junction box again to the new FDP?

Plain wastage and unnecessary extra splice joints. That'll introduce even further attenuation losses.

Thanks for the update👍

Not every place is like how you mentioned

At least at the backlane of my house there is one FDP after a few posts

CBB just now update ，open for apply in menglembu， include my Taman=］