TNB Allo Open Fibre Network Has Now Expanded to Certain Ipoh Suburbs

Allo Technology Sdn. Bhd (AS45410)

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Upstream providers/transit partners:
NTT Communications Asia & Hurricane Electric(HE)

IPv4 Peers



Fibre modem(ONU) that is currently used by Allo Technology S/B for installations in Ipoh:

Huawei Echolife HG8010H



The router being supplied alongside the ONU is a TP-Link Archer A6



Pricing by Allo partner ISPs (subjected to removed/added from time to time):

City Broadband Home Fibre Plans For TNB's Allo



*No end date mentioned for this promotion so it might be new price adjustments.
Source: https://www.citybroadband.my/residential/

Suggested ping and speedtest sites to measure your speed/latency:


How to determine the best 3rd party public DNS server to use for your internet connection?

You can use a DNS Speed Test app to benchmark different public DNS servers. You would want to use one which has the LOWEST latency attained for faster loading time.

How to know if your fibre install is properly done and within acceptable insertion loss range:

When your installation completes, before the installer plugs the connector into the fibre modem(ONT), requests that he uses a OPM(Optical power meter) to verify your line's optical return loss when transmitting light signals over a source.



Anything between the range of -18.0dBm to -22.0dBm should be optimum enough(for new installs) to support symmetrical 1Gbps speeds on your GPON line.

The maximum optical return loss allowable according to Rec. ITU-T G.984.2 (08/2019) Table A.2 – Class B+ loss budgets for the GPON system is 28dB (1310nm)
https://www.itu.int/rec/dologin_pub.asp?lan...DF-E&type=items

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This post has been edited by Candy12: Jan 29 2021, 02:34 PM

Maxis Access Agreement with TNB’s Subsidiary, Allo



https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/12/12/maxis...d-malaysia-skg/

A few serious DRAWBACKS from me latest study of the TNB's Allo setup.

1) They are targeting areas which are still offering Streamyx old copper lines by TM so that it'll not overlap with Unifi. However these areas are lower middle income or majority B40 housing areas with low spending power.

There are still many areas in Ipoh CBD and closer to the city suburbs which are deprived of TM Unifi infra. For example Jln. Pasir Putih, many of the business shoplots and older homes there still under miserable Streamyx copper infra over 30 years.
Also the mass housing area sandwiched between Jalan Bendahara and Station 18, all still no Unifi infra. These areas houses Ipoh's main coffee shops establishment and the homes there have higher spending power. These areas are just under 5km from TNB's Lahat HQ for Perak.

2) For the Perak's Allo Fibre division by TNB, only one ISP signed up until today which is ASTRO Broadband.
The other areas such as Cyberjaya, Bangsar South and Jasin, Melaka got many other ISP choices such as:
Celcom, DiGi, Maxis, ViewQWest and even TM Unifi sharing their infra.

3) The ASTRO Broadband contract has a RM1500 EARLY termination penalty if you terminate your 24 months contract before lapse. They are claiming higher termination fee because of supplying an expensive IPTV TV decoder which has built in HDD for PVR function on top of the router and ONT.

4) TNB's Allo is not a fully open fibre network. It is similar to HSBB where TNB's telco division City Broadband maintains both the PASSIVE fibre infrastucture and ACTIVE switches/OLTs/edge routers before passing the packets over to RSPs. That is why the fibre modem(ONT) is still the SAME for all ISPs you subscribe except the routers.Whether you use DiGi, Celcom, Maxis, Astro Broadband or any other partner isp you'll be given this because you need to go through their OLTs first.


TNB Allo's Calix 813G GigaHub Fibre Modem(ONT)

Is your home already served by TM Unifi's HSBB coverage? Chances are the might not cover the area in your housing garden already served by TM.

Yes do wait for other ISPs to join the network. The Astro Broadband deal is not quite appealing. It has a RM1500 early termination penalty and they force bundle ASTRO IPTV with it.

The parent ISP, City Broadband offers 100Mbps for the same price at RM99 only.

Bercham, Tasek, Ipoh Gardens, Canning and Kg Simee all that area is TM territory.
The main Perak NoC and data centre for TM is the Tasek building there.

For TNB, the main Perak NoC and datacentre is at Lahat Road next to ACS.
Time's NOC and exchange for Perak is at First Garden nearby Buntong.

Both TNB and Time Fibre operation data centres are both at the South section of Ipoh city which is nearer to KL/Cyberjaya.

The rumours you're hearing is wrong. Easily each cable that runs along the row of houses would contain at least 6 cores of fibre strand inside that'll further split into 8 ports with a passive splitter inside the FDP white box on the pole.

If what you've heard is 4, then it would mean TNB will be placing 4 FDP boxes(each served by 1 fibre strand) for each row of houses.

4 x 8 ports = 32 ports.

Unless there are more than 32 homes per row where you live, that's more than enough ports to cover each home in the same row where you live.

Wait for other ISPs to come in. Currently they only have 1 ISP which joined the Ipoh's Allo Fibre network.

In the mature areas such as Cyberjaya, Bangsar South and Melaka there are actually more than 5 ISPs to choose from.

Got City Broadband, Celcom, DiGi, Maxis, ViewQwest and even TM Unifi to choose from. Some of them even offering 100Mbps as low as RM99.

Maybe Astro is the only popular brand most Ipoh people heard about. The other ISPs want to observe first before investing. The TNB state branch not proactively inviting other ISPs to invest and now with the economy downturn,many companies are cautious with expansion.

Upstream providers differ from different ISPs(retail service providers) that are on their open network.
For example, Astro, Celcom, DiGi and Maxis all have their own upstream links. TNB only builds the last mile infra linking your home to the datacentre and then each isp has their own route.

I'm not affiliated with TNB Allo. If want to know more can contact them directly with the phone number listed on their website.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jun 25 2020, 04:13 PM

That is not a HQ, just a district office.They'll not want to be nearby TM Tasek to clash with them because 2 are competing companies.

Yes, TNB also entering telco business now. It's bigger company than even TM.

As electricity utility company, they're now building fibre optics network around the country.

They're slowly expanding but it'll take time many areas in Ipoh still not covered. They will cover areas where now still under copper telephone and TM has not launched Unifi yet to avoid double overlap.

If your housing garden(taman) already got TM Unifi just that a particular road isnt' serve with a FDP, this areas will also not be prioritized.

They'll first cover areas where TM totally neglected and hasn't built fibre infra there yet.

We have areas just directly opposite the road of TNB's Perak HQ at Jalan Lahat and Jalan Bendahara also do not have coverage yet. Their expansion seem very slow and now with the economy like this, it'll even be delayed longer.

Let the project mature first with more ISPs joining in. Now only got one ISP to choose only which is Astro Broadband. They force bundling of ASTRO TV service with it that's why very few sign ups.The price quite competitive 50M symmetrical for RM99, TM cannot compete with this.

Got another TNB Allo ISP not yet come in which is City Broadband, their reference pricing is internet only 100M for RM99. If they come in sure sapu all.

These are southern sections of Ipoh city then. Pasir Putih is sandwich between TNB HQ at Jln. Lahat and Botani.

Time Broadband, Perak operations centre is at First Garden nearby Silibin. If you've been there before you will see they use shipping containers to build their exchange centre like those from Google.

Still very premature at this time. Only got 1 ISP to choose from which is Astro Broadband. Also the maintenance not really good, over last few days heavy rain poured. Some of the tree branches fell on the fibre cables but TNB didn't remove.Not good impression for TNB staffs.

What I understand is a lot lof areas still haven't setup the FDP box on the poles. It'll take some time. Now only pulling the fibre. The fibre cables very easy to identify got special color coding not yellow stripes like older TM ones.

The fibre cable is black in color with orange patches(black-orange-black-orange blocks/tompok).

RM99 for 100M symmetrical



*Cheaper than Time Broadband because serving landed homes.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jun 26 2020, 07:17 PM

Give it 1-2 years for the expansion to take place, now post MCO Malaysia's economy is struggling.

Many bachelors still prefer to go on no contract deals because of no commitments while many are still on fixed line contracts won't be able to take up new offers because being tied.

Now only got 1 ISP offering its service on this network, more to come.

It means your building JMB or management hasn't signup with either telco provider yet for service commencement. You have to chase or advise your building management/JMB to contact the interested fibre provider to hook up your building first before they can start servicing your building.

The hold up is your building management board which is delaying the whole process because of being indecisive.

Yeah can try contacting Allo/City Broadband HQ at Cyberjaya to enquire about their service expansion to Ipoh.

1-300-38-8000

https://allo.my/contact-us/

There are already 4 or more ISPs servicing TNB Allo covered areas in Cyberjaya, and Jasin, Malacca at the moment as announced in the latest news:

Astro Broadband
City Broadband
DiGi
Maxis

The reference pricing is based on City Broadband's pricing model which is a subsidiary of TNB for all participating telcos in the open infra.

They are ON PAR if not even better than Time Home Fibre's pricing. All plans have symmetrical speed.

50M/50M - RM79/mth
100M/100M - RM99/mth
500M/500M - RM139/mth
1Gbps/1Gbps - RM199/mth


It is even more attractive than Time Fibre.

OLT/ONT equipment provider is by Calix who completed full acquisition of Ericsson Fiber Access Solutions.

Ah yes, I just read through this thread about City Broadband:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4324810

Here is what I discovered from users in Cyberjaya:

1) City Broadband uses an all in one router ONT supplied by Calix(formerly known as Ericsson Fiber Division)

2) You can opt to supply your own GPON transceiver stick by informing them the MAC ID to include in their greenlist. They allow this option.

There's one user who managed to supply his own GPON SFP+ transceiver and paired it with a Mikrotik CCR1036 to use the service.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=87747776

3) It is the FIRST ISP in Malaysia to use 3rd party public DNS servers pre-configured in their routers. Instead of maintaining their own DNS server, City Broadband uses Google DNS.

4) If you want to use your own 3rd party router, you can always disable the routing function of the ONT and put it as static bridge to only supply IP only to your own router.

5) They do not use PPPoE as authentication is made by equipment MAC ID? No VLAN involved which is great as it is similar to Time Home Fibre style? Not using PPPoE suggest they're IPoE based?

I'm not surprised that all the issues faced by TM and Time Fibre is improved and resolved by TNB Allo Fibre. They're Malaysia's newest open fibre network so everything is planned more carefully.

5) Ping to Singapore from Cyberjaya can get as low as 4ms.Local server ping rates as shown can go as low as 1ms.

6) By default users get CGNAT(carrier grade NAT) but you can request for public IP from your ISP.

7) The 1Gbps plan is also symmetrical unlike other ISPs such as Time Fibre and TM which can only offer at half rate.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jul 8 2020, 09:39 PM

Yes, you can. Just disable DHCP server, wireless and assign a fixed IP to the Calix router so that it becomes a bridge(modem) gateway. That will relay all the routing and wireless AP function to your 3rd party Mesh router instead.

They even allow to buy your own compatible ONT/GPON transceiver stick to power up your own enterprise router.

Yes, by default they will give private IP. The reason is not because of conserving public IP addresses but also to help secure most subscribers from becoming zombified DDoS machines when getting attacked by viruses.

Major FTTH ISPs are also providing CGNAT(private IPs) by default, you can personally request for public IP if you have need for it.