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 TNB Allo Nationwide Open Fibre Expansion, CBJ,Malacca,Perak,Penang,Johor & Kedah

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post Jan 15 2021, 01:56 PM

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All the RSPs or partner ISPs which are on TM HSBB are not too happy with them currently because of their high wholesale reference pricing and inferior older network which could only support beyond asymmetrical 800Mbps speeds with uploads only upto 200Mbps. They dare not commit higher speeds because of their network may not support them and customers will return complaining.

Take ViewQwest for instance, if you're on their network or Allo they sell symmetrical 100M/500M and 1Gbps plans at much cheaper rates than TM. Their symmetrical 100M plan is priced even below RM100/mth which is so much more affordable.

If you still insist on subscribing to them on TM HSBB, they have no choice but to offer you an entire different set of plans which is more expensive pricing and slower speeds that cannot exceed 800Mbps. Reason is because they'd have to follow TM's wholesale port pricing structure and reference limitations of their own Unifi plans.
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post Jan 15 2021, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(dave99021 @ Jan 15 2021, 11:27 AM)
I'm not quite sure what's TM doing at the moment. I saw Fiber cable rollup and was put at the side of the pole (probably for 2-3 more FDP for this back alley) but at the moment they just setup 1 for some reason???
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Just take the picture of your house backlane(lorong) with that only 1 FDP for future referencing and evidence.
Who knows one day you might need to utilize a port from them and they deny your claims. Got picture to show it right in their face. icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 15 2021, 05:23 PM

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I don't mind if Allo come to Kuala Lumpur as well. Although i am just wishing for it.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jan 15 2021, 09:26 AM)
TM is another shiet monopoly companies, where last time we don't have second choice but only can choose TM.

Complained for at least 8 years (since 2012) why no UniFi and when are coming, only replied we are sorry, currently we have no idea (no plan) when are coming to your area.

fast-forward to last year when Allo plan to expand into northern region aka Ipoh, wow!!! Their TM efficiency instantly sky-rocket even faster setup than Allo. Now call you and inform you congrats we are coming! (dam finally for freaking 8 years)
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Similar to my Taman, they never bother to entertain any Unifi Fiber request even though they had lay fiber cable for the School next to my Taman since 3-4 years ago.

Just a week before Allo setup poles, two TM agent suddenly appear to collect names for those who are interested in Unifi Fiber.
Then at the end of Nov 2020, TM contractor loop a new fiber cable from the School's FDP to one of their pole at the end of my House row which they could have done that 3 years back & even worst they only install one FDP to support whole 20 house not including shops.🤦‍♂️
Since then they have installed Unifi for three customer by pulling single fiber cable from one corner to another corner for each customer..😂

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And today, they were laying new fiber cable to add another FDP at the same row..
The way i look at it, they probably gonna lay the cable for the whole Taman.

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post Jan 15 2021, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 15 2021, 01:59 PM)
Just take the picture of your house backlane(lorong) with that only 1 FDP for future referencing and evidence.
Who knows one day you might need to utilize a port from them and they deny your claims. Got picture to show it right in their face.  icon_idea.gif
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Will do, Could be a sign that not much people are using Streamyx in my area and they are just unwilling to setup that much FDP doh.gif
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post Jan 15 2021, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Jan 15 2021, 06:21 PM)
Similar to my Taman, they never bother to entertain any Unifi Fiber request even though they had lay fiber cable for the School next to my Taman since 3-4 years ago.

Just a week before Allo setup poles, two TM agent suddenly appear to collect names for those who are interested in Unifi Fiber.
Then at the end of Nov 2020, TM contractor loop a new fiber cable from the School's FDP to one of their pole at the end of my House row which they could have done that 3 years back & even worst they only install one FDP to support whole 20 house not including shops.🤦‍♂️
Since then they have installed Unifi for three customer by pulling single fiber cable from one corner to another corner for each customer..😂

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And today, they were laying new fiber cable to add another FDP at the same row..
The way i look at it, they probably gonna lay the cable for the whole Taman.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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This is TM mentality, Facing Problem today? Better to leave it till tomorrow and let somebody else handle it doh.gif

Have they have the foresight and setup the FDP properly in one go and don't do any funny business on HSBB infra then they won't have to worry about the lack of adoption and new comers (Since TM have a first mover
advantage and they have the Market share/ name share as their advantage)

I'm pretty sure that it cost more to come back and pull more fibers in underserve area then to do it properly the first time. hmm.gif

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post Jan 15 2021, 07:51 PM

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Side Note, TNB Allo Really need to do something about their marketing.

Today I was driving along the main road from Taman Ampang to Taman Cempaka.
Within the span of 2KM I saw total of 4 (yes, 4) TM booth for Unifi Registration. blink.gif
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post Jan 15 2021, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(dave99021 @ Jan 15 2021, 07:51 PM)
Side Note, TNB Allo Really need to do something about their marketing.

Today I was driving along the main road from Taman Ampang to Taman Cempaka.
Within the span of 2KM I saw total of 4 (yes, 4) TM booth for Unifi Registration.  blink.gif
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No only about marketing their work laying cable also very slow
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post Jan 15 2021, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(tany @ Jan 15 2021, 08:37 PM)
No only about marketing their work laying cable also very slow
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How to be fast when the MCO is ongoing? Financial outlook also bleak with the economy now and gomen keep asking TNB to give subsidies for their utility bills and moratorium.
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post Jan 15 2021, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 15 2021, 01:56 PM)
All the RSPs or partner ISPs which are on TM HSBB are not too happy with them currently because of their high wholesale reference pricing and inferior older network which could only support beyond asymmetrical 800Mbps speeds with uploads only upto 200Mbps. They dare not commit higher speeds because of their network may not support them and customers will return complaining.

Take ViewQwest for instance, if you're on their network or Allo they sell symmetrical 100M/500M and 1Gbps plans at much cheaper rates than TM. Their symmetrical 100M plan is priced even below RM100/mth which is so much more affordable.

If you still insist on subscribing to them on TM HSBB, they have no choice but to offer you an entire different set of plans which is more expensive pricing and slower speeds that cannot exceed 800Mbps. Reason is because they'd have to follow TM's wholesale port pricing structure and reference limitations of their own Unifi plans.
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Actually what is the reason why TM cap their HSBB network at 800/200 and Allo can do Symmetrical Up and Down Speed?
From the outside I don't think there's much differences on the equipment that they are using.

Is that related to their GPON Optical Splitter Configuration Or perhaps it's just a simple configuration being done at Core/Edge Router?
If so what will it take for TM to achieve Symmetrical Up/Down Speed for Competition purposes?
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post Jan 15 2021, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(dave99021 @ Jan 15 2021, 09:00 PM)
Actually what is the reason why TM cap their HSBB network at 800/200 and Allo can do Symmetrical Up and Down Speed?
From the outside I don't think there's much differences on the equipment that they are using.

Is that related to their GPON Optical Splitter Configuration Or perhaps it's just a simple configuration being done at Core/Edge Router?
If so what will it take for TM to achieve Symmetrical Up/Down Speed for Competition purposes?
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Yes, TM's HSBB network is inferior and less capable because of the mess they made jumping early into the GPON FTTH deployment years back.

Their network is incapable of delivering symmetrical uploads which matches their download speeds.

It was said that their first phase deployment which started in Tasek area in Ipoh they were going with ratios as high as 1:64 per OLT port instead of 1:32 standard that Allo/Time used.

On top of that they refused to lower their wholesale pricing which also prevents other RSPs such as Maxis, Celcom, DiGi and ViewQwest who rides on their network to also lower prices to match others like Time turning them off, that's why they rather choose Allo to partner with.

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 15 2021, 08:42 PM)
How to be fast when the MCO is ongoing? Financial outlook also bleak with the economy now and gomen keep asking TNB to give subsidies for their utility bills and moratorium.
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The pole behind my house already 3mth still no cable
Slow is slow. I register city broadband at Dec they say can get in Jan now this is Malaysia way of doing things
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 8 2021, 09:47 PM)
To take advantage of the extra added features such as fixed IP to all home users, FREEDOM DNS, symmetrical speeds, no VLAN tagging, no buffer bloat caps, DHCP authentication and 1Gbps, it is not possible that this conditions be deployed on the present TM HSBB network.

Moreover if they're jumping on TM HSBB, it would have already announced that major cities such as Penang, Alor Setar/Sg Petani, Kangar, Taiping, in the northern region be covered.

TNB has been tight lipped about their rollout in other part of Ipoh such as Ipoh Gardens etc. Many of the newer condos and apartments around that area are now under private open fibre arrangements such as the Upper East, Thompson, The Octagon, Majestic .

Here's a look at an example setup by XccessComm HSBB Sdn Bhd for the Upper East Condominium just off Tiger Lane. When they acquired Macro Lynx they had immediate access to such facilities.
http://thesun-epaper.com/Property/Septembe...publication.pdf
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As for what reason TNB has been tight lipped about their rollout in other part of Ipoh such as Ipoh Gardens etc. ?
If I remember someone asking and also said , Ipoh Garden most request area for broadband.
As i know , Ipoh Garden is actually highest demand where consist of residential , industrial area , shopping complex , different Bank , few Private hospital , Schools and all are circle around just only 2-3KM and beyond is Tasek+ Bercham and Tambun Sunway.

Highway from KL to Ipoh or Penang to Ipoh all are connected to the main centre Point (Ipoh Garden) Toll.If anyone have been ipoh , the first building you will see is MHhotel + Tesco , Aeon , Tasek industrial area.

I wounder when Allo will be coming to those high demand area and with no news at all.

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QUOTE(tany @ Jan 15 2021, 10:34 PM)
The pole behind my house already 3mth still no cable
Slow is slow. I register city broadband at Dec they say can get in Jan now  this is Malaysia way of doing things
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my is Mid-September wait until November they start set up fiber for some street and wait 2-3weeks they start cover all taman,i ask agent they say will power up at December 2020,but at this week they just install the allo box... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(goodcj2 @ Jan 16 2021, 08:53 AM)
my is Mid-September wait until November they start set up fiber for some street and wait 2-3weeks they start cover all taman,i ask agent they say will power up at December 2020,but at this week they just install the allo box... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Steady je, waiting TMcraps for 8 years also no problem, somemore another 8 weeks or 8 months I also don't mind anyway.
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post Jan 16 2021, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Jan 15 2021, 10:46 PM)
As for what reason  TNB has been tight lipped about their rollout in other part of Ipoh such as Ipoh Gardens etc. ?
If I remember someone asking  and also said , Ipoh Garden most request area for broadband.
As i know , Ipoh Garden is actually highest demand where consist of residential , industrial area , shopping complex , different Bank , few Private hospital , Schools and all are circle around just only 2-3KM and beyond is Tasek+ Bercham and Tambun Sunway.

Highway from KL to Ipoh or Penang to Ipoh all are connected to the main centre Point (Ipoh Garden) Toll.If anyone have been ipoh , the first building you will see is MHhotel + Tesco , Aeon , Tasek industrial area.

I wounder when Allo will be coming to those high demand area and with no news at all.
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FYI, areas such as Gunung Rapat, Pasir Puteh, Pengkalan, Station 18, Lahat, Batu Gajah and Simpang Pulai DO NOT use the Northern Ipoh exit to connect to the the national fibre grid backbone on highways.

They use the Southern Ipoh highway exit toll from Simpang Pulai which is closer to the Klang Valley and Southern gateway cities.

The highway exit at Ipoh Garden is called the Northern Ipoh exit, it's only more convenient if your heading north to Penang or Kedah if you take that exit.

Also another fibre backbone actually runs along the train railway tracks on electrification poles for the KTM ETS/EMU trains. Ipoh's Main Railway station is in the middle of city very closeby to Lahat only.

Do you know why KL Sentral is a major network operations hub for many telcos in the country?

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post Jan 17 2021, 06:51 PM

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Update on Allo fiber optic network roll out in Kedah. Installation under way in Kulim.

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QUOTE(supergen3 @ Jan 17 2021, 06:51 PM)
Update on Allo fiber optic network roll out in Kedah. Installation under way in Kulim.

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QUOTE(supergen3 @ Jan 17 2021, 06:47 PM)
It's great to get fiber broadband, however I discovered a TNB Allo roadside cabinet 2 km away from my Taman under installation today. No fibre optic cables yet but the cabinet and poles are installed. Maybe I should wait for TNB Allo network to be completed. The packages offered by city broadband is very enticing.
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Is ur Taman listed in the coverage?
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post Jan 18 2021, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Jan 18 2021, 02:36 AM)
Is ur Taman listed in the coverage?
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No. The notice state work done on the housing area surrounding the old Kulim industrial estate. This places are 7 km away from my Taman. I have snapped pictures of the Allo FDC which is 2 km away. This FDC is around 500m away from Tesco Kulim.


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QUOTE(supergen3 @ Jan 18 2021, 10:19 AM)
No. The notice state work done on the housing area surrounding the old Kulim industrial estate. This places are 7 km away from my Taman. I have snapped pictures of the Allo FDC which is 2 km away. This FDC is around 500m away from Tesco Kulim.
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I would like to mention that this Allo FDC is located 20 metres away from an existing pair of TM FDC and DSLAM cabinets for the Taman in the background. So Allo is going head to head with TM in Kulim.

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