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 TNB Allo Nationwide Open Fibre Expansion, CBJ,Malacca,Perak,Penang,Johor & Kedah

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post Jun 19 2020, 10:46 PM, updated 5y ago

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TNB Allo Open Fibre Network Has Now Expanded to Certain Ipoh Suburbs

Allo Technology Sdn. Bhd (AS45410)

Main Routes

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Upstream providers/transit partners:

NTT Communications Asia & Hurricane Electric(HE)

IPv4 Peers

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Fibre modem(ONU) that is currently used by Allo Technology S/B for installations in Ipoh:

Huawei Echolife HG8010H

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The router being supplied alongside the ONU is a TP-Link Archer A6

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Pricing by Allo partner ISPs (subjected to removed/added from time to time):

City Broadband Home Fibre Plans For TNB's Allo

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*No end date mentioned for this promotion so it might be new price adjustments.
Source: https://www.citybroadband.my/residential/

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post Jun 19 2020, 11:12 PM

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Maxis Access Agreement with TNB’s Subsidiary, Allo

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https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/12/12/maxis...d-malaysia-skg/

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Maxis has just signed an access agreement with TNB’s subsidiary, Allo, for the provision of High-Speed Broadband (HSBB) network services. With this partnership, Maxis can provide fibre broadband access to more consumers and business owners located in Cyberjaya, Bangsar South and Jasin in Melaka.

At the moment, Maxis claims to have the widest fibre broadband access covering over 3.7 million premises. This is based on its own fibre network and through access agreements with TM HSBB, SACOFA, Celcom Timur Sabah as well as Allo. The agreement will allow Maxis to leverage on Allo’s HSBB network services to further expand its fibre footprint in Peninsular Malaysia and offer fibre services to homes and businesses in these locations. Allo will provide the groundwork for all access infrastructure up to the customer’s premises while Maxis will manage the retail and services end.

Commenting on the agreement, Maxis CEO, Gokhan Ogut said, “We have been aggressively expanding our fixed services footprint, as the base platform upon which we will continue to launch our new offerings and solutions. With this partnership, we are taking another significant step forward in delivering our converged solutions with an unmatched personalised experience to more Malaysian homes and businesses.”

According to Maxis, the agreement reinforces its commitment towards the Government’s National Fiberisation and Connectivity Plan (NFCP). A few months ago, Maxis had signed an access agreement with Celcom Timur in Sabah and they had a similar agreement with SACOFA in Sarawak.
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post Jun 20 2020, 05:43 PM

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A few serious DRAWBACKS from me latest study of the TNB's Allo setup.

1) They are targeting areas which are still offering Streamyx old copper lines by TM so that it'll not overlap with Unifi. However these areas are lower middle income or majority B40 housing areas with low spending power.

There are still many areas in Ipoh CBD and closer to the city suburbs which are deprived of TM Unifi infra. For example Jln. Pasir Putih, many of the business shoplots and older homes there still under miserable Streamyx copper infra over 30 years.
Also the mass housing area sandwiched between Jalan Bendahara and Station 18, all still no Unifi infra. These areas houses Ipoh's main coffee shops establishment and the homes there have higher spending power. These areas are just under 5km from TNB's Lahat HQ for Perak.

2) For the Perak's Allo Fibre division by TNB, only one ISP signed up until today which is ASTRO Broadband.
The other areas such as Cyberjaya, Bangsar South and Jasin, Melaka got many other ISP choices such as:
Celcom, DiGi, Maxis, ViewQWest and even TM Unifi sharing their infra.

3) The ASTRO Broadband contract has a RM1500 EARLY termination penalty if you terminate your 24 months contract before lapse. They are claiming higher termination fee because of supplying an expensive IPTV TV decoder which has built in HDD for PVR function on top of the router and ONT.

4) TNB's Allo is not a fully open fibre network. It is similar to HSBB where TNB's telco division City Broadband maintains both the PASSIVE fibre infrastucture and ACTIVE switches/OLTs/edge routers before passing the packets over to RSPs. That is why the fibre modem(ONT) is still the SAME for all ISPs you subscribe except the routers.Whether you use DiGi, Celcom, Maxis, Astro Broadband or any other partner isp you'll be given this because you need to go through their OLTs first.


TNB Allo's Calix 813G GigaHub Fibre Modem(ONT)

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post Jun 22 2020, 01:33 AM

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Thanks for sharing. I'm one of the resident of the listed coverage area at above. Now still considering whether to get this Astro & Broadband or wait for other telco's plan.

What I concern the most is their internet stability and any cap to the upload speed, because my gf's home is using unifi 10MBps but the upload speed feels like 1MBps something only.
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post Jun 22 2020, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(henry1112 @ Jun 22 2020, 01:33 AM)
Thanks for sharing. I'm one of the resident of the listed coverage area at above. Now still considering whether to get this Astro & Broadband or wait for other telco's plan.

What I concern the most is their internet stability and any cap to the upload speed, because my gf's home is using unifi 10MBps but the upload speed feels like 1MBps something only.
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Is your home already served by TM Unifi's HSBB coverage? Chances are the might not cover the area in your housing garden already served by TM.

Yes do wait for other ISPs to join the network. The Astro Broadband deal is not quite appealing. It has a RM1500 early termination penalty and they force bundle ASTRO IPTV with it.

The parent ISP, City Broadband offers 100Mbps for the same price at RM99 only.
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post Jun 22 2020, 01:33 PM

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ahh why no coverage in bercham aww man.
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post Jun 22 2020, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Hwoarang45 @ Jun 22 2020, 01:33 PM)
ahh why no coverage in bercham aww man.
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Bercham, Tasek, Ipoh Gardens, Canning and Kg Simee all that area is TM territory.
The main Perak NoC and data centre for TM is the Tasek building there.

For TNB, the main Perak NoC and datacentre is at Lahat Road next to ACS.
Time's NOC and exchange for Perak is at First Garden nearby Buntong.

Both TNB and Time Fibre operation data centres are both at the South section of Ipoh city which is nearer to KL/Cyberjaya.
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post Jun 23 2020, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jun 22 2020, 02:15 AM)
Is your home already served by TM Unifi's HSBB coverage? Chances are the might not cover the area in your housing garden already served by TM.

Yes do wait for other ISPs to join the network. The Astro Broadband deal is not quite appealing. It has a RM1500 early termination penalty and they force bundle ASTRO IPTV with it.

The parent ISP, City Broadband offers 100Mbps for the same price at RM99 only.
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oh I finally got the idea of how it works, it's like TM & TNB have their own territory and there's no overlapping. The bundle is ok for my family because if without the internet we still need to pay for Astro anyways, but the RM1500 early termination fee is really crazy (24 months contract).

Got some rumours that TNB has only installed 4 (or very limited number) ports for each row of houses, do you have any idea?
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post Jun 23 2020, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(henry1112 @ Jun 23 2020, 02:08 AM)
oh I finally got the idea of how it works, it's like TM & TNB have their own territory and there's no overlapping. The bundle is ok for my family because if without the internet we still need to pay for Astro anyways, but the RM1500 early termination fee is really crazy (24 months contract).

Got some rumours that TNB has only installed 4 (or very limited number) ports for each row of houses, do you have any idea?
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The rumours you're hearing is wrong. Easily each cable that runs along the row of houses would contain at least 6 cores of fibre strand inside that'll further split into 8 ports with a passive splitter inside the FDP white box on the pole.

If what you've heard is 4, then it would mean TNB will be placing 4 FDP boxes(each served by 1 fibre strand) for each row of houses.

4 x 8 ports = 32 ports.

Unless there are more than 32 homes per row where you live, that's more than enough ports to cover each home in the same row where you live.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jun 23 2020, 01:03 PM)
The rumours you're hearing is wrong. Easily each cable that runs along the row of houses would contain at least 6 cores of fibre strand inside that'll further split into 8 ports with a passive splitter inside the FDP white box on the pole.

If what you've heard is 4, then it would mean TNB will be placing 4 FDP boxes(each served by 1 fibre strand) for each row of houses.

4 x 8 ports = 32 ports.

Unless there are more than 32 homes per row where you live, that's more than enough ports to cover each home in the same row where you live.
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Then I think its a marketing strategy being used by the company and the sales person, they spread that rumour to make people sign up internet plan with them faster.

Btw thanks for the great information!
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post Jun 23 2020, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(henry1112 @ Jun 23 2020, 06:54 PM)
Then I think its a marketing strategy being used by the company and the sales person, they spread that rumour to make people sign up internet plan with them faster.

Btw thanks for the great information!
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Wait for other ISPs to come in. Currently they only have 1 ISP which joined the Ipoh's Allo Fibre network.

In the mature areas such as Cyberjaya, Bangsar South and Melaka there are actually more than 5 ISPs to choose from.

Got City Broadband, Celcom, DiGi, Maxis, ViewQwest and even TM Unifi to choose from. Some of them even offering 100Mbps as low as RM99.
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post Jun 23 2020, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jun 23 2020, 07:00 PM)
Wait for other ISPs to come in. Currently they only have 1 ISP which joined the Ipoh's Allo Fibre network.

In the mature areas such as Cyberjaya, Bangsar South and Melaka there are actually more than 5 ISPs to choose from.

Got City Broadband, Celcom, DiGi, Maxis, ViewQwest and even TM Unifi to choose from. Some of them even offering 100Mbps as low as RM99.
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Ya ya I wonder why the first ISP landed is Astro instead of City Broadband, hope the installation can be done sooner I cant wait to try Fibre's speed in Ipoh. (Been living in Penang and KL for few years with 100MBps internet speed)
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QUOTE(henry1112 @ Jun 23 2020, 11:17 PM)
Ya ya I wonder why the first ISP landed is Astro instead of City Broadband, hope the installation can be done sooner I cant wait to try Fibre's speed in Ipoh. (Been living in Penang and KL for few years with 100MBps internet speed)
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Maybe Astro is the only popular brand most Ipoh people heard about. The other ISPs want to observe first before investing. The TNB state branch not proactively inviting other ISPs to invest and now with the economy downturn,many companies are cautious with expansion.
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Who is the upstream ISP (international circuit provider) for Allo?
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post Jun 25 2020, 10:12 AM

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can I check coverage with you?
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jun 22 2020, 02:30 PM)
Bercham, Tasek, Ipoh Gardens, Canning and Kg Simee all that area is TM territory.
The main Perak NoC and data centre for TM is the Tasek building there.

For TNB, the main Perak NoC and datacentre is at Lahat Road next to ACS.
Time's NOC and exchange for Perak is at First Garden nearby Buntong.

Both TNB and Time Fibre operation data centres are both at the South section of Ipoh city which is nearer to KL/Cyberjaya.
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awww shot man, so screwed then but there is a huge TNB hq in tangjung rambutan though.. wouldnt that be a potential datacenter?
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QUOTE(tcwan @ Jun 25 2020, 10:06 AM)
Who is the upstream ISP (international circuit provider) for Allo?
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Upstream providers differ from different ISPs(retail service providers) that are on their open network.
For example, Astro, Celcom, DiGi and Maxis all have their own upstream links. TNB only builds the last mile infra linking your home to the datacentre and then each isp has their own route.

QUOTE(joonkeat @ Jun 25 2020, 10:12 AM)
can I check coverage with you?
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I'm not affiliated with TNB Allo. If want to know more can contact them directly with the phone number listed on their website.

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post Jun 25 2020, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Hwoarang45 @ Jun 25 2020, 12:53 PM)
awww shot man, so screwed then but there is a huge TNB hq in tangjung rambutan though.. wouldnt that be a potential datacenter?
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That is not a HQ, just a district office.They'll not want to be nearby TM Tasek to clash with them because 2 are competing companies.
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post Jun 25 2020, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jun 23 2020, 11:46 PM)
Maybe Astro is the only popular brand most Ipoh people heard about. The other ISPs want to observe first before investing. The TNB state branch not proactively inviting other ISPs to invest and now with the economy downturn,many companies are cautious with expansion.
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Ya agreed.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jun 23 2020, 11:46 PM)
Maybe Astro is the only popular brand most Ipoh people heard about. The other ISPs want to observe first before investing. The TNB state branch not proactively inviting other ISPs to invest and now with the economy downturn,many companies are cautious with expansion.
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Ya ya agreed.

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