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post Jul 31 2023, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(QuantumEdge @ Jul 30 2023, 11:59 PM)
Check their FB group, it looks bad
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This is because peoples are only saying the bad things or like to complains. You check to all the ISP groups and you will only see tonnes of bad comments.

I am using Allo CCB, Maxis on Allo, and Unifi at the same time.
I would rate Maxis has the best routing.
Unifi has the most stable and fastest technical assistance.
Allo is just cheapest. But doesn't mean they are unusable. Just not as good as TM/Maxis.
The only biggest downside for Allo, they subcon their CS and the services are terrible. Very very worst. This is the reason that i am mad when there are downtime and i have no one able to assist me immediately. (Usually 2-3hr per email reply, and they only accept email for technical issue, no call. And all of the cases auto fixed before the cases were lodged successfully, because of taking too long to response and reply, imagine 2 emails to diagnosis/troubleshooting that was 5h.)

Back to quality question, Allo has average 4 downtimes per year, each time around 1-2h. While TM about 1 time per year, Maxis about 2.
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QUOTE(wc_how @ Jul 31 2023, 08:38 AM)
This is because peoples are only saying the bad things or like to complains. You check to all the ISP groups and you will only see tonnes of bad comments.

I am using Allo CCB, Maxis on Allo, and Unifi at the same time.
I would rate Maxis has the best routing.
Unifi has the most stable and fastest technical assistance.
Allo is just cheapest. But doesn't mean they are unusable. Just not as good as TM/Maxis.
The only biggest downside for Allo, they subcon their CS and the services are terrible. Very very worst. This is the reason that i am mad when there are downtime and i have no one able to assist me immediately. (Usually 2-3hr per email reply, and they only accept email for technical issue, no call. And all of the cases auto fixed before the cases were lodged successfully, because of taking too long to response and reply, imagine 2 emails to diagnosis/troubleshooting that was 5h.)

Back to quality question, Allo has average 4 downtimes per year, each time around 1-2h. While TM about 1 time per year, Maxis about 2.
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if u pay cheap, then u expect cheaper service as well lo.

tm unifi is almost no alternative to anyone unless u have time to sign up. else just stick to unifi.
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post Aug 2 2023, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Aug 1 2023, 09:56 PM)
if u pay cheap, then u expect cheaper service as well lo.

tm unifi is almost no alternative to anyone unless u have time to sign up. else just stick to unifi.
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Correct. Since i am using it for normal browsing/movie, so that is not really critical and i can accept the downtime. Even the Allo contract is end, i have no plan to switch anything, cheapest and nothing to complain. Any downtime just temporary use the handphone data nothing big deal really.

As for TM, their response is the fastest, doesn't mean they can fix with ASAP too, especially deal with cabling issue. It took near 10 days to fix my office line. It has just no better choice.
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post Aug 3 2023, 05:50 PM

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Anyone have any issue with making bill payment to ALLO Selfcare right now?
I'm getting this error both on the website and in the app

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post Aug 3 2023, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 3 2023, 05:50 PM)
Anyone have any issue with making bill payment to ALLO Selfcare right now?
I'm getting this error both on the website and in the app
I just made my bill payment earlier this morning and it was ok. Perhaps something wrong with their payment gateway right now

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post Aug 3 2023, 10:31 PM

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If anyone wondering. Price stay the same after the contract ended. Guess I'm choosing the Rahmah pakej.

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post Aug 5 2023, 09:44 PM

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RM69 for 100M is just right.

Allo made the right move.

Also with upcoming 5G unlimited plans at RM68/RM79, I predict many will start cancelling their fixed line fibre plans if nothing is done to improve their pricing.

RM68 Telco U plan can achieve average 300M-500M, still want to pay RM88/99 or more than RM150 to get a 300M fibre plan?

Fixed fibre will not be laku anymore if nothing is done to make it attractive. It's main selling point is stability and consistency but 5G is almost as good now and will see fierce competition when 5.5G/5G+ is introduced which will introduced gigabit plans with fibre like latency.

Best thing is no need physical installation visit and bring home the modem can start using already. Can also carry around to other major cities or urban areas if your job requires frequent travelling.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Aug 5 2023, 09:44 PM)
RM69 for 100M is just right.

Allo made the right move.

Also with upcoming 5G unlimited plans at RM68/RM79, I predict many will start cancelling their fixed line fibre plans if nothing is done to improve their pricing.

RM68 Telco U plan can achieve average 300M-500M, still want to pay RM88/99 or more than RM150 to get a 300M fibre plan?

Fixed fibre will not be laku anymore if nothing is done to make it attractive. It's main selling point is stability and consistency but 5G is almost as good now and will see fierce competition when 5.5G/5G+ is introduced which will introduced gigabit plans with fibre like latency.

Best thing is no need physical installation visit and bring home the modem can start using already. Can also carry around to other major cities or urban areas if your job requires frequent travelling.
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Where to get unlimited 5G WITHOUT FUP at below RM100?
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post Aug 5 2023, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(asellus @ Aug 5 2023, 11:43 PM)
Where to get unlimited 5G WITHOUT FUP at below RM100?
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1TB is a lot for most people out there.

I hardly breach even 150GB every month with my 30mbps home fibre at home.

80% of my time on workdays are out at work.

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Aug 5 2023, 11:46 PM)
1TB is a lot for most people out there.

I hardly breach even 150GB every month with my 30mbps home fibre at home.

80% of my time on workdays are out at work.
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So, not unlimited then. Got it.
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QUOTE(asellus @ Aug 5 2023, 11:51 PM)
So, not unlimited then. Got it.
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I know my monthly usage pattern well after using my home fibre line for over 5 years.

If there's a 5G provider who can sustain over 100Mbps of speed even with weak 1-2bars of signal strength and priced at RM70-RM80, I'll not think twice opting for it because my 30M fibre plan is costing me RM105 per month which I don't even get to use much of it with most workdays out of home.

In Japan and many countries fixed 5G plans are now the trend, fibre plans are so yesterday.


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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Aug 5 2023, 11:55 PM)
I know my monthly usage pattern well after using my home fibre line for over 5 years.

If there's a 5G provider who can sustain over 100Mbps of speed even with weak 1-2bars of signal strength and priced at RM70-RM80, I'll not think twice opting for it because my 30M fibre plan is costing me RM105 per month which I don't even get to use much of it with most workdays out of home.

In Japan and many countries fixed 5G plans are now the trend, fibre plans are so yesterday.


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I do agree with your sentiment with how for general public, upcoming 5G packages is gonna be what they will only need. But not everyone is the general public here.

Fiber is still gonna be king for power users, despite their high prices relatively when compared to like U Home 5G.

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524 hours of uptime is equivalent to about 21-22 days ish. And this is also base package on TM Unifi. Which hopefully their price can be a bit competitive with Allo soon.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Aug 5 2023, 11:55 PM)
I know my monthly usage pattern well after using my home fibre line for over 5 years.

If there's a 5G provider who can sustain over 100Mbps of speed even with weak 1-2bars of signal strength and priced at RM70-RM80, I'll not think twice opting for it because my 30M fibre plan is costing me RM105 per month which I don't even get to use much of it with most workdays out of home.

In Japan and many countries fixed 5G plans are now the trend, fibre plans are so yesterday.


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There are no way to predict and avoid congestion with wireless plan.
Because 5G is new now, plus there is a "entry fees" (+RM10 or 20~, or subscribe more expensive plan to turn on 5G addon), so 5G is low adoption now we cannot conclude its real performance.
Don't forget Malaysia is not using 5G mmWave, so it is actually mean 4G+ imo.

Other reasons like public IP, stability, torrenting... are the main factors that peoples give up wireless solution.
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post Aug 7 2023, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(wc_how @ Aug 7 2023, 08:38 AM)
There are no way to predict and avoid congestion with wireless plan. 
Because 5G is new now, plus there is a "entry fees" (+RM10 or 20~, or subscribe more expensive plan to turn on 5G addon), so 5G is low adoption now we cannot conclude its real performance.
Don't forget Malaysia is not using 5G mmWave, so it is actually mean 4G+ imo.

Other reasons like public IP, stability, torrenting... are the main factors that peoples give up wireless solution.
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Still kinda surprised that mmWave is not widely used in Asia, even Lion City currently only using 257/258 on SIMBA. But iPhones/Androids with mmWave all only have 260/261 (Except Pixels as far as I know)

Hopefully with the new iPhone 15 Pro (Which looks like mmWave is gonna be all the models(?)), with Ericsson working with DNB we'll get mmWave 5G in MY
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Aug 7 2023, 06:27 PM)
Still kinda surprised that mmWave is not widely used in Asia, even Lion City currently only using 257/258 on SIMBA. But iPhones/Androids with mmWave all only have 260/261 (Except Pixels as far as I know)

Hopefully with the new iPhone 15 Pro (Which looks like mmWave is gonna be all the models(?)), with Ericsson working with DNB we'll get mmWave 5G in MY
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Very simple reasons, too expensive to build and maintain it.
Power consumption is 3x than 4g, coverage is 3x shorter than 4g. Mean 9x expensive to maintain as 4g.
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post Aug 8 2023, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(wc_how @ Aug 7 2023, 09:28 PM)
Very simple reasons, too expensive to build and maintain it.
Power consumption is 3x than 4g, coverage is 3x shorter than 4g. Mean 9x expensive to maintain as 4g.
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Guess that makes sense when Malaysia doesn't even want to buff up our hardline connection with decent packages and prices mad.gif
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post Aug 9 2023, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(wc_how @ Aug 7 2023, 08:38 AM)
There are no way to predict and avoid congestion with wireless plan. 
Because 5G is new now, plus there is a "entry fees" (+RM10 or 20~, or subscribe more expensive plan to turn on 5G addon), so 5G is low adoption now we cannot conclude its real performance.
Don't forget Malaysia is not using 5G mmWave, so it is actually mean 4G+ imo.

Other reasons like public IP, stability, torrenting... are the main factors that peoples give up wireless solution.
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5G was designed to overcome wireless congestion unlike 4G.

It includes many additional security features, beamforming, resource allocation/network virtual slicing, etc. which makes it very much more efficient that it used to be with 4G.

DNB once guaranteed that even with the weakest signal of just 1-bar strength, 5G can still perform >100mbps on downloads.
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Aug 8 2023, 08:22 PM)
Guess that makes sense when Malaysia doesn't even want to buff up our hardline connection with decent packages and prices mad.gif
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They are doing it on purpose because they still think weak Malaysian consumers can be squeeze dry to enrich the corrupted.

I don't really prioritize internet these days. It's full of nonsense and garbage content other than for entertainment purposes. For work and all since MCO has been over a long time, all my work has been on company's internet line. Never needed to bring work back home for worklife balance.

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Aug 9 2023, 07:51 PM)
5G was designed to overcome wireless congestion unlike 4G.

It includes many additional security features, beamforming, resource allocation/network virtual slicing, etc. which makes it very much more efficient that it used to be with 4G.

DNB once guaranteed that even with the weakest signal of just 1-bar strength, 5G can still perform >100mbps on downloads.
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Seriously, i doubt it. No deny that 5G is an improvement, but for sure it has bottleneck. Even 5G has no limit, backbone must have it. And 100m minimum guarantee speed meaning there are spike, there are up and down. Still yes, 100m is very good already, but it still mean unstable in term of performance.

I love 5G will bring up the price war. Unless i need mobility, i still prefer fibre. If RM50~ can get 100m fibre, why headache.
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QUOTE(wc_how @ Aug 10 2023, 11:26 AM)
Seriously, i doubt it. No deny that 5G is an improvement, but for sure it has bottleneck. Even 5G has no limit, backbone must have it. And 100m minimum guarantee speed meaning there are spike, there are up and down. Still yes, 100m is very good already, but it still mean unstable in term of performance.

I love 5G will bring up the price war. Unless i need mobility, i still prefer fibre. If RM50~ can get 100m fibre, why headache.
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The problem of 5G is power, it is hungry for power supply, in China they turn off 5G during midnight to save power/money.

Secondly, main problem still not solved, which is density/amount of device connected, in China they have a lot of Anime event already, but the network still unstable because too much peoples using 5G.
I will said it is because lacking something like mm Wave, by theory if they just setup mm Wave for those event location, sure 5G will be enough.
But, those open event one, sure not gonna pay extra just for 5G mm Wave deployed 3 days, not like it is Olympus lol.

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