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cruzzmz
post Apr 21 2022, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 21 2022, 03:23 PM)
I'm assuming the board you're going for has SMD RGB LEDs? Transparent bottom and top housings would be best, but transparent top with a bottom that has LED cutouts work too. The bobagums have an RGB variant with clear tops. Or you can buy the clear tops separately. The effect is not bad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIwoUkdDjAc

If the board is not using SMD but using in switch LEDs, it doesn't matter all that much. This is my keyboard with fully opaque Boba U4T switches with in switch LEDs:
[attachmentid=11138916]

Not to be pushing Gazzew, I'm not getting a commission or anything. But this should open up your options to other brands that may have clear tops.
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i think the best is as mentioned ... but still top only also can be good
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post Apr 21 2022, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 20 2022, 10:56 PM)
Horns is the linear expert here. But I'm a Gazzew fanboy so I just wanna highlight the Gazzew Boba LT and Bobagum(silent linear)
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yeah eventually we will have our own selections of stock and custom switches, skipping many that feel similar hehe

QUOTE(sshhcps @ Apr 21 2022, 02:39 PM)
Yeah should be doing so. I realized that different reviewer yields different sound profile despite being the same switch & could likely be due to their setup on both the board as well as their recording instruments. Thanks for the input.

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The only minor gripe I have with my K70 Speed Silver is the accidental input whenever I rest my fingers on the keycaps. Other than that, no complaints whatsoever. My new upcoming board is just to try out something new (TKL) or possibly cultivate the hobby.
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right, different setups will present different feel and sound with the same switch.

i guess the spring weight of cherry mx speed silver is too light for you (60g bottom-out; the same as cherry mx red). you should do spring swapping to 63.5g to 67g. (for linear rated spring options)

edit: besides aqua king v3, there is also one from kailh, under their box series, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=672137808938 (2 variants, linear and tactile; noted the spring weights, it's 60g for linear)

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post Apr 21 2022, 05:56 PM

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Aiyooo ... i can get the RM50 off for Q1 already in Lazada ... dangggg sweat.gif
but only carbon black rclxub.gif

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post Apr 21 2022, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 21 2022, 04:29 PM)
yeah eventually we will have our own selections of stock and custom switches, skipping many that feel similar hehe
right, different setups will present different feel and sound with the same switch.

i guess the spring weight of cherry mx speed silver is too light for you (60g bottom-out; the same as cherry mx red). you should do spring swapping to 63.5g to 67g. (for linear rated spring options)

edit: besides aqua king v3, there is also one from kailh, under their box series, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=672137808938 (2 variants, linear and tactile; noted the spring weights, it's 60g for linear)
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i agree some tweaking like the spring, stem, even bottom housing will give diff sound and feel. But it will be an expensive switch later hahaha ... i have tried it with my frankenswitch last time cool2.gif
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post Apr 21 2022, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 21 2022, 03:23 PM)
I'm assuming the board you're going for has SMD RGB LEDs? Transparent bottom and top housings would be best, but transparent top with a bottom that has LED cutouts work too. The bobagums have an RGB variant with clear tops. Or you can buy the clear tops separately. The effect is not bad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIwoUkdDjAc

If the board is not using SMD but using in switch LEDs, it doesn't matter all that much. This is my keyboard with fully opaque Boba U4T switches with in switch LEDs:
[attachmentid=11138916]

Not to be pushing Gazzew, I'm not getting a commission or anything. But this should open up your options to other brands that may have clear tops.
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Luckily it's on-board RGB LED on hotswap-able PCB, so it is more forgiving to a layman like me. I did a bit reading on in-switch LEDs but I figure that it would an additional "chore" & unsure how programmable the lights are compared to the on-board ones. Though I may be wrong, the installation for the former is just a simple LED insert into the opening (with both of its legs share the pins on the switch I presumed). Didn't really explore more after that. Yeah the whole construction of the housing from bottom, top to the stem (least defining of the 3) influences the lighting. It is still visible as long as there are cut-outs or openings.

I acknowledge fanboy/girl & I don't take it in negative way; folks has their own passion (this is a hobby discussion & is open to all). Needless to say, opinions/suggestions here & there could be an eye-opener (as such a separate purchase of top housing, changing spring weights, etc). But I have yet have the thought of "frankensteining" switches; probably down the road.

Just wondering how programmable are the LEDs on your board; comparable or identical to SMD? Thanks for the picture though.

QUOTE(horns @ Apr 21 2022, 04:29 PM)
i guess the spring weight of cherry mx speed silver is too light for you (60g bottom-out; the same as cherry mx red). you should do spring swapping to 63.5g to 67g. (for linear rated spring options)

edit: besides aqua king v3, there is also one from kailh, under their box series, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=672137808938 (2 variants, linear and tactile; noted the spring weights, it's 60g for linear)
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Actually it only happens when I'm too relax or off-guard while resting my fingers on it; doesn't really occur that much. The reason I chose Speed Silver was due to light & shorter actuation point. I do came across with Kailh's clear offerings but it was majority in tactile that time (I can give a look on their linears as well).

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As you may see my choices are within the "play-safe" region (linear, reputable & high RGB compatibility). Currently I am looking in between 45-62g or 67g (below 70g) as I am unsure how "accustomed" I am with Speed Silver due to its unique-ness; not many folks I came across with that. Anything beyond that may be out of my tolerance; that's my current assumption.

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post Apr 22 2022, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Apr 21 2022, 06:06 PM)
i agree some tweaking like the spring, stem, even bottom housing will give diff sound and feel. But it will be an expensive switch later hahaha ... i have tried it with my frankenswitch last time  cool2.gif
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if you used brand new switches, or rare parts, for the sole purpose of combining them into what you want, then yes, they will be expensive. however, there are ways to achieve similar if not the same outcomes. for instance, one of the simplest ways is to pick a base switch that covers almost everything that you prefer. they are usually good to go with minimal tuning. these days, it's not hard to find these base switches, because, unlike years ago, the market is now saturated with readily-available options that are very likely meeting your expectations.

as for frankenswitches, it's a really the results of a progressive learning process that involves understanding characteristics, qualities, and compatibilities of switches, including their internals, starting with stock switches from different brands. they are relatively cheap to begin with. with the accumulated experience, you can formulate combinations of different parts into something that you want. eventually, you will realize that most of the times alternatives with similar outcomes can be made from much cheaper options, compared to those custom/boutique switches. (not 100%, but close enough)

to me, frankenswitches are just a way to make left-over parts from previous projects useful again haha

QUOTE(sshhcps @ Apr 21 2022, 09:32 PM)
As you may see my choices are within the "play-safe" region (linear, reputable & high RGB compatibility). Currently I am looking in between 45-62g or 67g (below 70g) as I am unsure how "accustomed" I am with Speed Silver due to its unique-ness; not many folks I came across with that. Anything beyond that may be out of my tolerance; that's my current assumption.
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it's fine, just pick things up at your own pace. cherry mx speed silver is a linear key switch with shorter key travels, compared to cherry mx red. nowadays, there are many with such shorter key travels.

imo keys should not register if i rested my fingers on them, but yeah it's one of my preferences.




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post Apr 22 2022, 03:01 PM

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my hands were itchy just now, so i bricked a yd60mq with cx60 firmware due to carelessness, again. this is one of my common 'issues' when using different pcbs for builds with identical layouts. (i.e., dz60, yd60mq, and cx60) i can identify them easily (using via/vial), but still get mixed up sometimes.

luckily, this can be fixed easily: reset the pcb using tweezers, and reflash it with the correct firmware.

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post Apr 22 2022, 03:27 PM

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Getting my 2nd board, which is the Dareu a98 with v3 sky blue switches
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post Apr 22 2022, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Apr 22 2022, 03:27 PM)
Getting my 2nd board, which is the Dareu a98 with v3 sky blue switches
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Whoa! Interesting board. I wonder how they pull off having the stabs mounted on a PC plate. I'm guessing that's probably why there is a stepped cutout for the stabs in the silicone pad. It needs the support, otherwise the area of the plate where it is mounted may break with use.
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post Apr 23 2022, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 22 2022, 01:24 AM)
it's fine, just pick things up at your own pace.
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Yeah, I figure not much point as I don't have the board with me; fulfillment is scheduled at the very least a year from now (if lucky).

Currently I'm looking at a certain GMK keycaps set. The problem is I do not require certain parts like spacebars & novelties. If I were to get them, I might need to sell it off. Are GMKs sought after locally or is there a market place? Because I only came across mostly international trades are the active ones.
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QUOTE(sshhcps @ Apr 23 2022, 05:44 PM)
Yeah, I figure not much point as I don't have the board with me; fulfillment is scheduled at the very least a year from now (if lucky).

Currently I'm looking at a certain GMK keycaps set. The problem is I do not require certain parts like spacebars & novelties. If I were to get them, I might need to sell it off. Are GMKs sought after locally or is there a market place? Because I only came across mostly international trades are the active ones.
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for local users, there is a mechmarket, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MYMECHMARKET/ there is one at mymkb's discord also, https://discord.com/invite/FEUMXhT

.. and then there are other well-known places that you can sell stuff internationally.

i don't see you should sell those unused ones. usually, it's better to keep them, in case you change to other layouts that are supported by your set. also, they might have better values in case you wanted to sell the set later.



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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 23 2022, 08:36 PM)
for local users, there is a mechmarket, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MYMECHMARKET/ there is one at mymkb's discord also, https://discord.com/invite/FEUMXhT

.. and then there are other well-known places that you can sell stuff internationally.

i don't see you should sell those unused ones. usually, it's better to keep them, in case you change to other layouts that are supported by your set. also, they might have better values in case you wanted to sell the set later.
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Thanks for the info. Well those spacebars/novelties comes in colors/design that I don't think I would use. Though I may say I wouldn't likely return to anything more than TKL (the base set has num pad covered). I cannot make do without F row (70% or below is a no). Agree that collectors may actually want them as a whole set but it's gonna be only partial new; folks would still want that?
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QUOTE(sshhcps @ Apr 23 2022, 10:58 PM)
Thanks for the info. Well those spacebars/novelties comes in colors/design that I don't think I would use. Though I may say I wouldn't likely return to anything more than TKL (the base set has num pad covered). I cannot make do without F row (70% or below is a no). Agree that collectors may actually want them as a whole set but it's gonna be only partial new; folks would still want that?
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it's really up to you. yes, some prefer untouched sets, but there are many that are ok with used ones also, as long as the conditions of the sets are acceptable to them.

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post Apr 24 2022, 06:32 AM

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Anyone can suggest a document typing mech keyboard ? for office use ?
Prefer plain black full size like dell keyboard , do not need any rgb.

I read mx brown is for typing but didn't not experience it.
You know , most office is using rubber dome keyboard hp or dell.
I found old keyboard similar to office a like logitech G-610 but it's an old keyboard not selling anymore.

Anyone can suggest a similar look full size black keyboard like dell or similar with G-610 ? blue switch is too distracting , brown with tactile is suitable to typing document compare to hard rubber dome from dell and hp.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 24 2022, 06:32 AM)
Anyone can suggest a document typing mech keyboard ? for office use ?
Prefer plain black full size like dell keyboard , do not need any rgb.

I read mx brown is for typing but didn't not experience it.
You know , most office is using rubber dome keyboard hp or dell.
I found old keyboard similar to office a like logitech G-610 but it's an old keyboard not selling anymore.

Anyone can suggest a similar look full size black keyboard like dell or similar with G-610 ? blue switch is too distracting , brown with tactile is suitable to typing document compare to hard rubber dome from dell and hp.
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Ikbc CD108. My first MKB
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post Apr 24 2022, 11:47 AM

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Asking for a friend..

What are the thocky switches aside from U4T and Ink Black? rclxub.gif
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post Apr 24 2022, 07:25 PM

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what's the best bang for buck wired full size keyboard under rm200?

first time user after lifetime of using laptop keyboard so no idea what to choose

Would prefer something silent and less force to press if possible

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post Apr 24 2022, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Apr 24 2022, 11:47 AM)
Asking for a friend..

What are the thocky switches aside from U4T and Ink Black? rclxub.gif
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Any switch can thock if you're determined enough. Bottom out harder! Lol.

Joking aside, there are many factors to thock, but IMO the easiest way is to have a long pole stem, so look out for that.

NK Creams, and various Kailh and Tecsee switches have long pole stems. I'm sure there are many more.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 24 2022, 07:39 AM)
Ikbc CD108. My first MKB
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Is it mx brown tactile ? I search around , all sold out no restock for Ikbc CD108 V2 full black keys cap.
Not popular ? replaceable key cap ?
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 24 2022, 08:23 PM)
Is it mx brown tactile ?  I search around , all sold out no restock for Ikbc CD108 V2 full black keys cap.
Not popular ? replaceable key cap ?
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Yes to all questions. Such is the nature of this hobby. Lol.

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