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cruzzmz
post Apr 14 2022, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 13 2022, 11:46 PM)
PangHu's HPE sliders have a longer central pole compared to the usual cherry mx's. this means:

1. key travels will be shorter than the usual 4.0mm;
2. the bottom-out will make relatively louder noise.

i will make a set with jwick c-black v1 as base. compared to stock,  a brief test showed that it's loud, smooth, with surprisingly minimal stem wobbles.
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cant open the link whistling.gif
load as i thocness???

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post Apr 14 2022, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Apr 14 2022, 03:51 PM)
cant open the link  whistling.gif
load as i thocness???
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uh? just tested the link. it worked fine for me.

it's not that deep in terms of sound imo. i will tune a full set for use with dz60 flex-cut pcb later.

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post Apr 14 2022, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 14 2022, 11:07 PM)
uh? just tested the link. it worked fine for me.

it's not that deep in terms of sound imo. i will tune a full set for use with dz60 flex-cut pcb later.
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Any sound sample ??

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post Apr 15 2022, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Apr 14 2022, 11:42 PM)
Any sound sample ??
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sorry but there will be no sound samples from me for now. i have tried to record switch sound many times. they all have significant differences from the actual ones. to avoid confusions later, it's better not to post them.

i have also tried to build something similar and compared to those from youtube before. they really sound differently from what're posted. hence, i don't believe in sound profiles at youtube also.

this is also why i don't bother about sound profiles in general. as long as i like the typing feels, it's really good enough for me. for instance, this board that i'm typing on now is an old kbd75v1. it's a tray-mount. i made it plateless, fully case foamed with poron, with tuned cherry mx black (62g linear rated springs), and epbt cool kids. i like the typing feels of this combo. i think it sounds nice also haha (syok sendiri biggrin.gif)

i think it's better to learn basics, collect own typing experience, and then make own builds. they might not be good in others' eyes, but as long as they meet your expectations, it's really good enough.

edit: although there is a diference in usb port type, pcbs for kbd75v1 and kbd75v3.0/1 use the same firmware (kbd75 rev2).

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post Apr 15 2022, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Xitox @ Apr 5 2022, 10:49 AM)
Hello Guys, I'm looking to buy and try modding for the first time. Currently I'm using Tecware phantom tkl with brown switch. Since my work is need to use keyboard everyday, I want to get keyboard that is satisfying to type in terms of feels and sound.

My budget is around 1.5k to 2k. Can you guys recommend some keyboard,  switch and keycaps to get?

Also I would appreciate if you guys can provide me some useful resources that I can learn more?

tqvm  biggrin.gif
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Update. After researching almost 2 weeks. I have pull the trigger bought a Zoom65 Olivia Light icon_rolleyes.gif

Excited and a bit scared to assemble my first custom keyboard Lol
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post Apr 15 2022, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 15 2022, 10:30 AM)
sorry but there will be no sound samples from me for now. i have tried to record switch sound many times. they all have significant differences from the actual ones. to avoid confusions later, it's better not to post them.

i have also tried to build something similar and compared to those from youtube before. they really sound differently from what're posted. hence, i don't believe in sound profiles at youtube also.

this is also why i don't bother about sound profiles in general. as long as i like the typing feels, it's really good enough for me. for instance, this board that i'm typing on now is an old kbd75v1. it's a tray-mount. i made it plateless, fully case foamed with poron, with tuned cherry mx black (62g linear rated springs), and epbt cool kids. i like the typing feels of this combo. i think it sounds nice also haha (syok sendiri biggrin.gif)

i think it's better to learn basics, collect own typing experience, and then make own builds. they might not be good in others' eyes, but as long as they meet your expectations, it's really good enough.

edit: although there is a diference in usb port type, pcbs for kbd75v1 and kbd75v3.0/1 use the same firmware (kbd75 rev2).

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i agree with you ... the typing feels and the sound is individual preference ... thumbup.gif
it is your own keeb and you alone can do what ever you want with it right whistling.gif

QUOTE(Xitox @ Apr 15 2022, 10:52 AM)
Update. After researching almost 2 weeks. I have pull the trigger bought a Zoom65 Olivia Light  icon_rolleyes.gif

Excited and a bit scared to assemble my first custom keyboard Lol
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est arrival ??? and what is your plan?

This post has been edited by cruzzmz: Apr 15 2022, 11:23 AM
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post Apr 15 2022, 11:23 AM

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Horns uses a 75%! Vindication! Haha
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post Apr 15 2022, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 15 2022, 11:23 AM)
Horns uses a 75%! Vindication! Haha
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hahaha of course i use 75%; my preferred sizes are 60/65/75%.

i use 64-key 60% as my main layout because as of now, parts are still readily available (e.g., cx60 pcb which supports single 64-key layout; different plate types and thickness; pre-cut foams), and i can use up all the keys as frequently as possible







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post Apr 15 2022, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 15 2022, 12:02 PM)
hahaha of course i use 75%; my preferred sizes are 60/65/75%.

i use 64-key 60% as my main layout because as of now, parts are still readily available (e.g., cx60 pcb which supports single 64-key layout; different plate types and thickness; pre-cut foams), and i can use up all the keys as frequently as possible
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Any tips on daily driving a 60%? I haven't gotten mine yet, but right now I am planning to:
Mod tap the bottom right mods + shift as arrow keys.

These keys:
- =
[ ]

Will default to:
Ins Home
Del End

The keys on the legend will only be in layer 1.

Encoder will default to Page Up Page Dn.
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post Apr 15 2022, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Apr 15 2022, 11:22 AM)
i agree with you ... the typing feels and the sound is individual preference ...  thumbup.gif
it is your own keeb and you alone can do what ever you want with it right  whistling.gif

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exactly. that's actually where the fun is imo, and one of the main reasons why i still make reference builds continuously.

basics are important for custom builds. the more you know, the better you understand underlying issues, and you will be more creative in solving issues. (within physical limits of parts used, of course)

i'm revisiting my basics now, from parts to mods. all keyboard constructions have their own strengths and weaknesses, and some of them still have significant rooms for improvement. i still pick up new stuff/little details along the way. it's really up to you to find out.

tbh, expensive kits don't mean they will give good typing experience out-of-box, and cheap kits don't mean they will be eternally bad. we have seen many failed attempts by users that were clueless about what they did, and i'm convicned that those who know better can make good builds out of cheap parts. the main reason that the same kit doesn't achieve desired outcomes is just the gap of experience/level of know-hows of the owners.

QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 15 2022, 12:31 PM)
Any tips on daily driving a 60%? I haven't gotten mine yet, but right now I am planning to:
Mod tap the bottom right mods + shift as arrow keys.

These keys:
- =
[ ]

Will default to:
Ins Home
Del End

The keys on the legend will only be in layer 1.

Encoder will default to Page Up Page Dn.
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it really depends on your habits, and your needs for keys that are missing when you use 60%. then, you just need to get used to ithem.

in terms of layouts, a way to find out is to check out https://config.qmk.fm/ and load the supported layouts of 60% pcbs, e.g. standard-ansi, hhkb, and others. with chording, a lot of things are actually achievable with 60 or below.

i was a long-term gk-64 user previously, so i'm used to gk-64-style layout. i don't use right shift, so i make that 1u-right-shift as mo(2), for board settings. i can also set up the del key as mo(3) if i want to, because i can use shift + backspace as del.

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post Apr 15 2022, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 15 2022, 01:16 PM)
exactly. that's actually where the fun is imo, and one of the main reasons why i still make reference builds continuously.

basics are important for custom builds. the more you know, the better you understand underlying issues, and you will be more creative in solving issues. (within physical limits of parts used, of course)

i'm revisiting my basics now, from parts to mods. all keyboard constructions have their own strengths and weaknesses, and some of them still have significant rooms for improvement. i still pick up new stuff/little details along the way. it's really up to you to find out.

tbh, expensive kits don't mean they will give good typing experience out-of-box, and cheap kits don't mean they will be eternally bad. we have seen many failed attempts by users that were clueless about what they did, and i'm convicned that those who know better can make good builds out of cheap parts. the main reason that the same kit doesn't achieve desired outcomes is just the gap of experience/level of know-hows of the owners.
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well said bro notworthy.gif

me still learning too
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post Apr 15 2022, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Mar 21 2022, 10:23 AM)
Here it is .. the journey with new toy hahaha

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getting use to the new keyboard ...  sweat.gif  it is a bit longer and feel a bit diff since have been with my rk61 for almost a year already.
switching from my frankenswitch to the Harimau switch ... seems like the switch is softer then my previous maybe because the previous has a double spring and a longer stem.

Just one rant about the harimau switch ... the quality would be better since the pin is so damn fragile and i did bend a few when trying to replace the or switch  rclxub.gif
a funny story the no 1 key i cant get the harimau switch to fit but can get others to fit in  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif so in the end i use panda switches on the numeric keys. Heck i swap almost all switches that i have in hand can fit but not the harimau one ????

overall the sound of the keyboard is awesome to my liking out of the box  rclxm9.gif
no other mod yet though  ...

will share the noise it makes soon hahaha
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Hi. You bought it from the official website? How's the shipping like and how much did you pay for shipping?

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post Apr 15 2022, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 15 2022, 01:16 PM)
in terms of layouts, a way to find out is to check out https://config.qmk.fm/ and load the supported layouts of 60% pcbs, e.g. standard-ansi, hhkb, and others. with chording, a lot of things are actually achievable with 60 or below.

i was a long-term gk-64 user previously, so i'm used to gk-64-style layout. i don't use right shift, so i make that 1u-right-shift as mo(2), for board settings. i can also set up the del key as mo(3) if i want to, because i can use shift + backspace as del.
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What kind of chording do you do?
On my current board I do ASD for Win+Shift+S (Windows Snip and sketch tool) and Home+End for Alt+Prt Scr (no standard Prt Scr at all on any layer).

On my numpad, I use 12 for a, 23 for b, 3Enter for c, 45 for d, 56 for e, 6+ for f. Helps me to enter MAC addresses and IPV6 addresses faster just from the numpad.

Come give me some ideas please. notworthy.gif
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post Apr 15 2022, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Apr 15 2022, 03:31 PM)
Hi. You bought it from the official website? How's the shipping like and how much did you pay for shipping?
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yes from the official site ... it was USD81 plus shipping (i think it was free)
i got a 10% off coupon

as of today im good with this keebs
but i did change the switch and the keycaps

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post Apr 15 2022, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Apr 15 2022, 02:47 PM)
well said bro  notworthy.gif

me still learning too
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yes, just learn, practice tuning/building at your own pace, and get more first-hand experience progressively.

for beginners, pick up soldering and desoldering, and then learn good practices for mkb building also. these are simple and straight forward. you just need practices to get better. although hot-swap boards have improved over time, and are convenient, soldered boards are always relatively better (it provides solid structural support in general).

eventually, you will realize that most of the time spent on building a custom board are the wait time for parts to arrive, and then the time you spend for repeated tuning and testing hehe

QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 15 2022, 03:44 PM)
What kind of chording do you do?
On my current board I do ASD for Win+Shift+S (Windows Snip and sketch tool) and Home+End for Alt+Prt Scr (no standard Prt Scr at all on any layer).

On my numpad, I use 12 for a, 23 for b, 3Enter for c, 45 for d, 56 for e, 6+ for f. Helps me to enter MAC addresses and IPV6 addresses faster just from the numpad.

Come give me some ideas please. notworthy.gif
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.. you are better than me in this chording thing i believe lol
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post Apr 15 2022, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 15 2022, 04:20 PM)
yes, just learn, practice tuning/building at your own pace, and get more first-hand experience progressively.

for beginners, pick up soldering and desoldering, and then learn good practices for mkb building also. these are simple and straight forward. you just need practices to get better. although hot-swap boards have improved over time, and are convenient, soldered boards are always relatively better (it provides solid structural support in general).

eventually, you will realize that most of the time spent on building a custom board are the wait time for parts to arrive, and then the time you spend for repeated tuning and testing hehe
.. you are better than me in this chording thing i believe lol
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true the waits will be thrilling whistling.gif
also the lubing hahaha


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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Apr 15 2022, 04:37 PM)
true the waits will be thrilling  whistling.gif
also the lubing hahaha
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haha

mkb tuning is a huge topic, from switches and other parts of a board, to techniques and ingredients used in mods. typing feels and sound are always the results of parts in a board working together, hence it's better for users to learn how to formulate builds appropriately with the right combos, to achieve what they actually want.

the learning process does take time, efforts, and patience though. but then, it's a hobby. there is no need to rush for anything. just pick things up at your own pace.

also, there is no right or wrong in many cases, because in the end, the thing that matters the most is whether you like the typing experience or not.


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post Apr 16 2022, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 15 2022, 10:40 PM)
haha

mkb tuning is a huge topic, from switches and other parts of a board, to techniques and ingredients used in mods. typing feels and sound are always the results of parts in a board working together, hence it's better for users to learn how to formulate builds appropriately with the right combos, to achieve what they actually want.

the learning process does take time, efforts, and patience though. but then, it's a hobby. there is no need to rush for anything. just pick things up at your own pace.

also, there is no right or wrong in many cases, because in the end, the thing that matters the most is whether you like the typing experience or not.
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Yes
One part is the switch .. the right base, the right top, the right stem and the right spring
Finally the right sound ... That alone is satisfying 😂

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Apr 15 2022, 04:00 PM)
yes from the official site ... it was USD81 plus shipping (i think it was free)
i got a 10% off coupon

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how long is the shipping duration?
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post Apr 16 2022, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 16 2022, 12:07 PM)
how long is the shipping duration?
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i think it was 1-2 weeks

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