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niakulah
post Nov 15 2021, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(harry_croft84 @ Nov 15 2021, 06:56 PM)
My budget is less than 350. I check out Rebel60 is a 60% layout.
I need pg up/dn, home and end key. So probably 75%, 80% or tkl.

Dont care about about rgb. If got would be bonus. But need at least backlight.

Can be wired or wireless. But if wired need to be detachable.

Another keyboard in my radar is Keychron C1.
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Check out the TM680 if you don't need F row. Program the rotary encoder for page up/down.
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post Nov 15 2021, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Nov 15 2021, 07:42 PM)
Check out the TM680 if you don't need F row. Program the rotary encoder for page up/down.
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yes TM680 is good too thumbsup.gif
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post Nov 16 2021, 12:52 AM

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the 5th set of domikey double-shot/triple-shot abs, cherry profile key caps is now available at taobao. it's called astronauts.

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again, one thing to note about these domikey's cherry profile key caps is that the actual colorways of some are way off from renders.

other than that, they are good quality sets, relatively speaking, compared to gmk and jtk.
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post Nov 16 2021, 01:14 PM

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post Nov 16 2021, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Nov 15 2021, 07:42 PM)
Check out the TM680 if you don't need F row. Program the rotary encoder for page up/down.
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I asked shop in shopee. Knob cannot re map.
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post Nov 16 2021, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(harry_croft84 @ Nov 15 2021, 12:43 PM)
Hi

I want to build my 1st mech keyboard.
I prefer TKL. I hate my current keyboard bcz it dont have pg up/down, home and end key.

Any suggestion are welcom.

I'planning to below mod
Foam mod
Bandaid mod
Lube stab. Holee mod if rajin. Later probably upgrade stab.
Want to use gateron pro yellow with factory lube. Cheap. Base on review factory lube for this switch very consistent. So dont need to lube switch.

My option
1. RK84 : ~RM320 ==> RM 230 + RM90(gateron milky yellow pro : factory lube)
Pro: have wireless and bt connection
2. 1stplayer Uni-q : RM275 including gateron pro yellow
Pro : cheaper
Con: no bt or wireless con. New keyboard not a lot of review. Only paid review by malaysian youtuber tech
3. Tecware Phantom TKL : RM260 ==> RM 170 + RM90(gateron milky pro yellow)
Con : wired not detachable

Help give feedback. Thanks
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i bought my self rk960 with three mode connections for less than rm 300 shipped ...
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post Nov 16 2021, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(harry_croft84 @ Nov 16 2021, 01:21 PM)
I asked shop in shopee. Knob cannot re map.
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Hmm ok. I saw "Knob function customization" in Aliexpress. I don't own the board myself, so I can't confirm what it can or can't do.
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post Nov 22 2021, 12:45 PM

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finally, someone posted the actual causes of ticking sound in stabilizers, and remedies to them in one video.

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in the nutshell, there are two places from stabilizers that can generate ticking sound:
1. inside stem hole;
2. housing sockets that secure wires.

you should apply these different mods accordingly. most people only focus on the first one (e.g., holee, epsi), while the second one, i.e., the mod for wire support to minimize ticking sound from housing sockets, was very seldom mentioned. perhaps they are like me, have cherry-picked better wires, and install them with a wire orientation that makes the least sound, so the issue is relatively not significant to them. then again, it's better to fix stuff based on actual problems.

tbh, years ago, the wire support mod was already mentioned by one of our veterans, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMec...41725219397038/ (this post is a good read, with good details). sadly, only few of us got the message.


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as of now, my preferred pcb-mount stabs are c3 equalz v1/2/3, and everglide v2. those who have tried stock everglide v2 screw-in stabilizers will know they are one of the worst, making all sorts of noises that you can possibly imagine.

the good news is that after tuning, they will turn out to be one of the better ones.

i look forward to trying out the new stabilizers from tx. it's a snap-in/clip-in pcb-mount stabilizer, with the main difference being their double-shot stabilizer stems (pom outside, tpu inside), https://mekibo.com/products/tx-stabilizers

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post Nov 23 2021, 03:53 PM

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post Nov 23 2021, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 23 2021, 09:41 AM)
as of now, my preferred pcb-mount stabs are c3 equalz v1/2/3, and everglide v2. those who have tried stock everglide v2 screw-in stabilizers will know they are one of the worst, making all sorts of noises that you can possibly imagine.

the good news is that after tuning, they will turn out to be one of the better ones.

i look forward to trying out the new stabilizers from tx. it's a snap-in/clip-in pcb-mount stabilizer, with the main difference being their double-shot stabilizer stems (pom outside, tpu inside), https://mekibo.com/products/tx-stabilizers
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Oh yes, im looking forward to your finding. Im not particular on sound & feel, but the durock/everglide stab wobble is driving me crazy. Im waiting for better stabs before re-doing my keyboards, Stabies got my attention; Owlstabs im not really trusting it.
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QUOTE(yohomies @ Nov 23 2021, 04:38 PM)
Oh yes, im looking forward to your finding. Im not particular on sound & feel, but the durock/everglide stab wobble is driving me crazy. Im waiting for better stabs before re-doing my keyboards, Stabies got my attention; Owlstabs im not really trusting it.
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yeah let's wait until they have stock.

durock/everglide stabs are not bad after tuned. worst comes to worst, apply both mods as precautionary then lube them, and you should be fine. (yeah i couldn't stand them so i fixed all the stabs for modifier keys on this simpler60 just now)

i don't like things that are playing hard to get so i just skip stabies for now hehe
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QUOTE(yohomies @ Nov 23 2021, 04:38 PM)
Oh yes, im looking forward to your finding. Im not particular on sound & feel, but the durock/everglide stab wobble is driving me crazy. Im waiting for better stabs before re-doing my keyboards, Stabies got my attention; Owlstabs im not really trusting it.
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You can try Holee modding but instead of plaster, try UHMW tape. Owlstabs is just gimmick imo.

QUOTE(horns @ Nov 23 2021, 08:13 PM)
i don't like things that are playing hard to get so i just skip stabies for now hehe
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It's not really playing hard to get though, it's pretty much still in beta phase with the first sale like an open beta and they will be making further changes to it. Also there's literally no Asian vendor for it. They've tried contacting iLumkb but no idea how that's going. I've heard Zion will be selling them though, just not sure when.
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post Nov 24 2021, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Nov 24 2021, 09:30 PM)
You can try Holee modding but instead of plaster, try UHMW tape. Owlstabs is just gimmick imo.

It's not really playing hard to get though, it's pretty much still in beta phase with the first sale like an open beta and they will be making further changes to it. Also there's literally no Asian vendor for it. They've tried contacting iLumkb but no idea how that's going. I've heard Zion will be selling them though, just not sure when.
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when they're readily available, i will get some for testing.

for now, i just restock everglide v2 and c3 equalz from time to time. i'm used to tune these two.

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this is ilumkb's simpler64. the international gb is here, https://ilumkb.com/collections/live/products/simpler60

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this kit is ok imo. however, it's better to make use of those m2x10 long screws to prevent the installation from moving around. the 0.5mm eva switch foam doesn't have openings for pins. it's better to use a switch to poke holes first if you wanna use it, to minimize bent pins.

i have some gasket-mount boards, as well as tray-mount/top-mount/bottom-mount/integrated plate builds. one thing that bothers me is this: a lot of people tell us gasket mount systems like this have 'flex'. tbh, in reality, you need to apply a lot of force to achieve that, which is not happening when you type normally. the main purpose of gasket mount systems is to offer relatively uniform typing sound and softer feel (compared to other keyboard constructions, which are relatively but slightly stiff), but it's definitely not about bounce or flex.

so, don't get disappointed when you type on a gasket-mount keyboard, but don't have that flexy feel. it's normal.

This post has been edited by horns: Nov 24 2021, 11:44 PM
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post Nov 25 2021, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 24 2021, 11:18 PM)
when they're readily available, i will get some for testing.

for now, i just restock everglide v2 and c3 equalz from time to time. i'm used to tune these two.

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this is ilumkb's simpler64. the international gb is here, https://ilumkb.com/collections/live/products/simpler60

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this kit is ok imo. however, it's better to make use of those m2x10 long screws to prevent the installation from moving around. the 0.5mm eva switch foam doesn't have openings for pins. it's better to use a switch to poke holes first if you wanna use it, to minimize bent pins.

i have some gasket-mount boards, as well as tray-mount/top-mount/bottom-mount/integrated plate builds. one thing that bothers me is this: a lot of people tell us gasket mount systems like this have 'flex'. tbh, in reality, you need to apply a lot of force to achieve that, which is not happening when you type normally. the main purpose of gasket mount systems is to offer relatively uniform typing sound and softer feel (compared to other keyboard constructions, which are relatively but slightly stiff), but it's definitely not about bounce or flex.

so, don't get disappointed when you type on a gasket-mount keyboard, but don't have that flexy feel. it's normal.
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well explained bro .. gasket for the uniform sound ... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Nov 24 2021, 09:30 PM)
You can try Holee modding but instead of plaster, try UHMW tape.
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Where do we get UHMW tape though? hmm.gif
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post Nov 25 2021, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Nov 25 2021, 04:17 PM)
Where do we get UHMW tape though?  hmm.gif
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I bought mine off Shopee. Look for 3M 5425 - which I believe is the thinnest one.
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post Nov 26 2021, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Nov 25 2021, 11:26 AM)
well explained bro .. gasket for the uniform sound ... thumbup.gif
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yes, it's better to make this clear for everyone.

moving on, gasket mount is the last of the common plate mounting styles that i wanna try out, and after 3 different gasket mount implementations, my conclusion is this:
1. each plate mounting style offers different typing experience;
2. each has own strengths and weaknesses;
3. plate mounting style is just part of the big picture of a mkb. other parts (e.g., switch, plate, case, mods, etc.) still contribute, with obvious effects, to the overall typing experience.

there is no such thing as style A is superior than style B. if you used the wrong parts, you can potentially throw away good qualities of the plate mounting style. if you looked closely, many are doing that.

it's all good, because for this hobby is entirely own preference-based. as long as owners are happy, anything goes biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 26 2021, 11:47 AM)
yes, it's better to make this clear for everyone.

moving on, gasket mount is the last of the common plate mounting styles that i wanna try out, and after 3 different gasket mount implementations, my conclusion is this:
1. each plate mounting style offers different typing experience;
2. each has own strengths and weaknesses;
3. plate mounting style is just part of the big picture of a mkb. other parts (e.g., switch, plate, case, mods, etc.) still contribute, with obvious effects, to the overall typing experience.

there is no such thing as style A is superior than style B. if you used the wrong parts, you can potentially throw away good qualities of the plate mounting style. if you looked closely, many are doing that.

it's all good, because for this hobby is entirely own preference-based. as long as owners are happy, anything goes biggrin.gif
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well said bro notworthy.gif
for me im gonna try gasket mount after this

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post Nov 27 2021, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Nov 26 2021, 11:50 AM)
well said bro  notworthy.gif
for me im gonna try gasket mount after this
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just take your time and try them out progressively, along with other basics like switch, plate, case, mods, etc.

this will help you shape better ideas on what's going on when you combine them together as a unit. you also learn how to choose the right parts, and control them to achieve desired outcomes.

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this is tape mod explained. (you might wanna crawl comments for others' opinions too)

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so, in short, the board is in your hands. just experiment it yourself.

edit: it's like what the video said, tape mod has mixed results, depending on how a boad is designed and built.

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