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 Mahathir: F-18 Only Useful For Airshows

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ohman
post May 23 2020, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ May 23 2020, 09:42 PM)
Source codes are used to control weapon/radar integration, flight dynamics, etc. of the plane.

And why would Malaysia want the source codes? To install Russian weapons? Firstly, we do not have the money or experts to write and alter millions of aircraft coding. Secondly, there is a whole gamut of weapons and electronic support equipment which can be installed on such jets. When you buy a US/Euro jet you are buying into an entire ecosystem of military weapons and tech.

It has nothing to do with targets.

Please learn the basic.
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maybe cannot program the flight path outside of malaysia?


you do know they need to punch in the coordinates right?


you think ex-PM is talking bullshit?

even LTZ didnt question his statement, in fact, all the mil fags here didnt laugh.gif



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post May 23 2020, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 23 2020, 09:50 PM)
How come US allowed saudi to bomb the fark out of yemen tho? hmm.gif

They even identified lockheed made bomb or something, meaning saudi is using american munitions hmm.gif
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the war has been going on for 2 years.

im sure americans allowed that to happen.

to sell more weapons.
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post May 23 2020, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 23 2020, 10:50 PM)
How come US allowed saudi to bomb the fark out of yemen tho? hmm.gif

They even identified lockheed made bomb or something, meaning saudi is using american munitions hmm.gif
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yemen xpe asal bukan israel
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post May 23 2020, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ May 23 2020, 09:50 PM)
point is they are there

it's not utterly, completely, irretrievably useless - eg 1979 Iran Revolution, IrAF F-15 combat record is when?

also, I'm not just making a point about one single item or even solely in defence industry
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Not refuting your point, just making a statement that something that old can still be in service
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post May 23 2020, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 23 2020, 07:49 PM)
Jet sapa yg bomb Suluk masa Ops Daulat dulu ye? 🤔🤔sewa kot
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Itu attack own country is allowed. Oh wai
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post May 23 2020, 09:58 PM

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Why need source code?

That's the last piece of the puzzle for thr kereta terbang la.

Mana kereta terbang tu?
KLthinker91
post May 23 2020, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 23 2020, 09:16 PM)
why do saudis bought panavia tornado in the first place if they already have F-15? Becos of
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songlap

more different product = more supplier = more agent = more commission spread out to more crony, same story with us, and better still if change more equipment more often

buying from UK instead of US is pointless since they are each other's closest allies, 1 embargo the other sure follow. as the Argentinians learned in 1982

end of the day, if we want to go independent, just go and prove ourselves. but if we are forced to beg people from help, don't muka hitam, don't need to talk so much cock and bite the hand that feeds

if Malaysia benci sangat can just give back those Scaneagles whistling.gif

QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ May 23 2020, 09:52 PM)
Not refuting your point, just making a statement that something that old can still be in service
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oh sorry

black market parts and LOTS of cannibalisation. also debatably still in service now - from 80 aircraft plus spares can't be more than maybe 10-15 operational now.

but they did great vs Iraqis

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: May 23 2020, 09:59 PM
Mai189
post May 23 2020, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 09:51 PM)
maybe cannot program the flight path outside of malaysia?
you do know they need to punch in the coordinates right?
you think ex-PM is talking bullshit?

even LTZ didnt question his statement, in fact, all the mil fags here didnt  laugh.gif
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Adui! Well, it is really up to you to believe someone like him. My only advice as a muslim is, jangan diperdaya. That old man is too much.

Otherwise, you can do your own research.

I will just leave it here.


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post May 23 2020, 10:00 PM

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He is Correct!
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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 09:36 PM)
china told you?  laugh.gif
edit : let me add more to this reply la.
1. Russia metallurgy is shit during the 80s and 90s, so the SU 27 variants suffered several cases of aircraft fell apart, cannot pull sustained over G. thats why russia keep having newer variants with stronger bodies.

2. their avionics is shit.
but racist never understand why they are using Made in China product instead of Made in Russia keyboard.

J16 is miles ahead of SU30mkk
1. radar
2. avionics
3. way way stronger body
4. more powerful engine, yes, better than al31f.

this is China, thats why they are world no.2 .

soviet union even at strongest is not world no.2 in terms of economy strength.
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I make a mistake the Carrier based Shenyang is J-15
my apologies to you

as for J16, they do have much superior radar with AESA radar and electronic due to it was made for electronic warfare
unfortunately I have to disagree on WS-10 engine
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post May 23 2020, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ May 23 2020, 10:58 PM)
songlap

more different product = more supplier = more agent = more commission spread out to more crony, same story with us, and better still if change more equipment more often

buying from UK instead of US is pointless since they are each other's closest allies, 1 embargo the other sure follow. as the Argentinians learned in 1982

end of the day, if we want to go independent, just go and prove ourselves. but if we are forced to beg people from help, don't muka hitam, don't need to talk so much cock and bite the hand that feeds

if Malaysia benci sangat can just give back those Scaneagles whistling.gif
oh sorry

black market parts and LOTS of cannibalisation. also debatably still in service now - from 80 aircraft plus spares can't be more than maybe 10-15 operational now.

but they did great vs Iraqis
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lolol yindia got embargoed by us for quitesome time becos nuke yet diorang beli uk stuff xde hal pun
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post May 23 2020, 10:19 PM

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So is it true or not the article 🤔..

I have always wonder but countries like turkey have alot of F16s and even a few F35..

They x takut ke if this is the case 🤔
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post May 23 2020, 10:20 PM

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Talk what also no use if the jet have no jet engine.

Btw ... have our jet engine back from Argentina ?
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It is common sense what, there's always a restriction, the more kuat jilat murica butt then lesser restriction but also depend on geopolitics too.
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post May 23 2020, 10:21 PM

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Only Mahathir dare to speak up, which other just keep silent.
Thats why Mahathir is always label as controversial person & anti-america.
i believe in him in non-politic statement, even though i may not be agree all with his statement in politic.

America Gov is smart , at least they sell u the weapon, hopefully u dun used against them.
America Gov is also holding the last card (back-door card) eg Boeing, computer ,server ,telecommunication, andriod , apple
Imagine we ned to ask for sms password from USA, when we wun to fire rifle which we buy from them doh.gif
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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ May 23 2020, 10:19 PM)
So is it true or not the article 🤔..

I have always wonder but countries like turkey have alot of F16s and even a few F35..

They x takut ke if this is the case 🤔
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It is true, there's always have certain degree of restriction.

Turkey no longer in f35 country list

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Hobbez
post May 23 2020, 10:24 PM

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I'm sure they built some backdoors into their military equipment. Backdoors that allow them to sabotage or disable the military equipment if for example, you use it to attack them.

That is why the countries that manufacture their own military equipment are light years ahead of other countries that don't - The superpowers of the world.
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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 09:51 PM)
maybe cannot program the flight path outside of malaysia?
you do know they need to punch in the coordinates right?
you think ex-PM is talking bullshit?

even LTZ didnt question his statement, in fact, all the mil fags here didnt  laugh.gif
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what to question when we have answered regarding this ages ago
old news mau cerita buat apa lagi
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post May 23 2020, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ May 23 2020, 10:19 PM)
So is it true or not the article 🤔..

I have always wonder but countries like turkey have alot of F16s and even a few F35..

They x takut ke if this is the case 🤔
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political agreement

USA : u wun me to protect u , sell me ur oil cheaply but partly ned to contra with Military Equipment

USA is a powerful military nation (smart businessman), freedom fighters doesn't comes free .

USA loves oil nation, they will come to help u if u have domestic problem devil.gif .
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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ May 23 2020, 10:19 PM)
So is it true or not the article 🤔..

I have always wonder but countries like turkey have alot of F16s and even a few F35..

They x takut ke if this is the case 🤔
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maybe in 97/98 but not anymore
with the amount of upgrade the FA-18 get for free with FMS money it is one of the most versatile fighter in the RMAF right now

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