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 Mahathir: F-18 Only Useful For Airshows

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ayanami_tard
post May 23 2020, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 23 2020, 09:36 PM)
Why not get hackers to reprogram the controller?
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gudbye after sales support, including access to munitions.
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post May 23 2020, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ May 23 2020, 08:55 PM)
They sold the s400 which is the most advance sam in the world atm
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After delaying for how long? Ruskie no choice cuz they got no money.

QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 08:58 PM)
It means their stuff is low tech la
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2nd in terms of military hardware in the world = low tech lol ok laugh.gif
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post May 23 2020, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(red streak @ May 23 2020, 09:18 PM)

2nd in terms of military hardware in the world = low tech lol ok  laugh.gif
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high tech cannot copy la
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post May 23 2020, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 23 2020, 09:16 PM)
i dun really like the old man but I completely agree with him tbh. t
desway I dun mind rmaf having mixed fleet because usa did pull this kinda shitty behavior to indon, pakistan, even turkey. Even fucking arab saudi with their F-15S (basically saudi specific F-15C) have that bullshit t&c, one of them is that these birds cannot be deployed in Tabuk airbase (near u know who...). why do saudis bought panavia tornado in the first place if they already have F-15? Becos of US restrictions
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UK dont put the same restrictions on their tornado and typhoon?
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post May 23 2020, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ May 23 2020, 07:57 PM)
Excuses

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P.s. Malaysia is like budak kecik always complain why need follow mama papa rules. Sedangkan fama yang provide sara hidup. Ada hati mau berdikari, get out there and fucking do it, tak payah nak cakap banyak. Tak larat then sombong tu simpan skit, diam2 je lah makan gaji
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Those Iranians tomcats are older than me
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post May 23 2020, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(red streak @ May 23 2020, 08:47 PM)
China already copied the S-300 missile defense system and numerous obsolete jets that Russia sold to them. It's why Putin is reluctant to sell their highest end hardware to China.  laugh.gif What's the point of a customer that buys moderate amounts of stuff and then turns around and stops buying once they finish making copycats?
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even the china latest aircraft carrier is retrofitted through old russian carrier
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post May 23 2020, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 23 2020, 07:49 PM)
Jet sapa yg bomb Suluk masa Ops Daulat dulu ye? 🤔🤔sewa kot
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tu la
baru nak tanya

takkan time tu kita mintak US punya permission kot

I mean ok la, it's understandable kalau US impose restrictions untuk takleh attack countries yang jadi allies
tapi dalam agreement awal2 pon mesti kita ada mintak permission untuk attack neighbouring countries AT LEAST kan?

madey ni lama tol nyanyuk dia
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QUOTE(azriel @ May 23 2020, 07:42 PM)
tahun bila punya artikel depa recycle ni?

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memang la tun kat FA18 tak berguna pasal kene beli dari US direct Government to Government dan semua offset dan account can be retrieved from US Library of Congress so kenot Songlap
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post May 23 2020, 09:24 PM

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Someone should remind Thanos of the A 4-Skyhawk clusterfuck during his administration.
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post May 23 2020, 09:25 PM

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You tak sukak buat avionics dan fcs sendiri.
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post May 23 2020, 09:34 PM

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The old man was either clearly misguided or utterly did not do his homework.

And so are all of you who believe him.

In the first place, do you even know what source codes are?

You do not need source codes to attack or defend yourself in a western jet.

Utter rubbish. The old man has doomed this country in more ways than you think...

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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 08:11 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

so easy to copy?

without China, Russia already collapsed 10 years ago  laugh.gif
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Copy easy paste susah
The Sukhoi copy of J-16 cannot even achieve 45% of original capability of the Su-30MKK that they used to copy with
only good thing about the J-16 is carrier based capability

QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 23 2020, 08:14 PM)
dat means before we wan to go to war wif another country, we need to ask permission from the US first laugh.gif
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All american product like that
During Lebanon war 06 between Israel and Lebanon
Some of Israel weapons and munition were flown overnight from Germany and some high fighter system capability are unlock when US approved when Tel Aviv requested


QUOTE(New Klang @ May 23 2020, 08:36 PM)
Why not get hackers to reprogram the controller?
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kenot do anything
OZ actually employ hacker to hack Hornet system
turn out they cannot do nothing without the system and weapons system that they unlock from the hack

so basically the source code given are only with what you have to use


QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 23 2020, 09:16 PM)
i dun really like the old man but I completely agree with him tbh. t
desway I dun mind rmaf having mixed fleet because usa did pull this kinda shitty behavior to indon, pakistan, even turkey. Even fucking arab saudi with their F-15S (basically saudi specific F-15C) have that bullshit t&c, one of them is that these birds cannot be deployed in Tabuk airbase (near u know who...). why do saudis bought panavia tornado in the first place if they already have F-15? Becos of US restrictions
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US mmg tak suka US in dealing
Transparent dealing maa mana bleh buat duit

QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ May 23 2020, 09:24 PM)
Someone should remind Thanos of the A 4-Skyhawk clusterfuck during his administration.
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Unfortunately many forgot the "PERISTA" program in the history.
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post May 23 2020, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 23 2020, 09:34 PM)
Copy easy paste susah
The Sukhoi copy of J-16 cannot even achieve 45% of original capability of the Su-30MKK that they used to copy with
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china told you? laugh.gif



edit : let me add more to this reply la.


1. Russia metallurgy is shit during the 80s and 90s, so the SU 27 variants suffered several cases of aircraft fell apart, cannot pull sustained over G. thats why russia keep having newer variants with stronger bodies.

2. their avionics is shit.


but racist never understand why they are using Made in China product instead of Made in Russia keyboard.

J16 is miles ahead of SU30mkk
1. radar
2. avionics
3. way way stronger body
4. more powerful engine, yes, better than al31f.

this is China, thats why they are world no.2 .

soviet union even at strongest is not world no.2 in terms of economy strength.

This post has been edited by ohman: May 23 2020, 09:46 PM
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post May 23 2020, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ May 23 2020, 07:57 PM)
Excuses

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P.s. Malaysia is like budak kecik always complain why need follow mama papa rules. Sedangkan fama yang provide sara hidup. Ada hati mau berdikari, get out there and fucking do it, tak payah nak cakap banyak. Tak larat then sombong tu simpan skit, diam2 je lah makan gaji
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nice. doubt many can see the contrast on what you said against the iranian f14 backstory
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post May 23 2020, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 23 2020, 10:20 PM)
UK dont put the same restrictions on their tornado and typhoon?
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need to look at whos buying typhoon and tornado. so far UK only say kenot use UK made weapons for "internal suppression" ,like in case of indon bombing east timor using hawks so uk did arms embargoes to indon for quite some time
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post May 23 2020, 09:42 PM

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Source codes are used to control weapon/radar integration, flight dynamics, etc. of the plane.

And why would Malaysia want the source codes? To install Russian weapons? Firstly, we do not have the money or experts to write and alter millions of aircraft coding. Secondly, there is a whole gamut of weapons and electronic support equipment which can be installed on such jets. When you buy a US/Euro jet you are buying into an entire ecosystem of military weapons and tech.

It has nothing to do with targets.

Please learn the basic.
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post May 23 2020, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Pitiuran @ May 23 2020, 08:24 PM)
Yes sekarang I baru understand why Egypt cannot use their M1 tanks and apache to attack israel
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Israel will deactivates/switch off on-board computer, avionics and navigation system.

QUOTE(Pitiuran @ May 23 2020, 08:28 PM)
I wonder if USA impose any restrictions on f 15 eagles of Israel
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Israeli co-developed F-15 Eagle with McDonnell Douglas.

This post has been edited by sportivo: May 23 2020, 09:47 PM
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post May 23 2020, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Pitiuran @ May 23 2020, 08:28 PM)
I wonder if USA impose any restrictions on f 15 eagles of Israel
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

wtf you dont know who is the master ?
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post May 23 2020, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ May 23 2020, 09:20 PM)
Those Iranians tomcats are older than me
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point is they are there

it's not utterly, completely, irretrievably useless - eg 1979 Iran Revolution, IrAF F-15 combat record is when?

also, I'm not just making a point about one single item or even solely in defence industry

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 23 2020, 09:40 PM)
need to look at whos buying typhoon and tornado. so far UK only say kenot use UK made weapons for "internal suppression" ,like in case of indon bombing east timor using hawks so uk did arms embargoes to indon for quite some time
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How come US allowed saudi to bomb the fark out of yemen tho? hmm.gif

They even identified lockheed made bomb or something, meaning saudi is using american munitions hmm.gif

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