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post May 23 2020, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ May 23 2020, 07:42 PM)
tahun bila punya artikel depa recycle ni?

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memang la tun kat FA18 tak berguna pasal kene beli dari US direct Government to Government dan semua offset dan account can be retrieved from US Library of Congress so kenot Songlap
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post May 23 2020, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 08:11 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

so easy to copy?

without China, Russia already collapsed 10 years ago  laugh.gif
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Copy easy paste susah
The Sukhoi copy of J-16 cannot even achieve 45% of original capability of the Su-30MKK that they used to copy with
only good thing about the J-16 is carrier based capability

QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 23 2020, 08:14 PM)
dat means before we wan to go to war wif another country, we need to ask permission from the US first laugh.gif
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All american product like that
During Lebanon war 06 between Israel and Lebanon
Some of Israel weapons and munition were flown overnight from Germany and some high fighter system capability are unlock when US approved when Tel Aviv requested


QUOTE(New Klang @ May 23 2020, 08:36 PM)
Why not get hackers to reprogram the controller?
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kenot do anything
OZ actually employ hacker to hack Hornet system
turn out they cannot do nothing without the system and weapons system that they unlock from the hack

so basically the source code given are only with what you have to use


QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 23 2020, 09:16 PM)
i dun really like the old man but I completely agree with him tbh. t
desway I dun mind rmaf having mixed fleet because usa did pull this kinda shitty behavior to indon, pakistan, even turkey. Even fucking arab saudi with their F-15S (basically saudi specific F-15C) have that bullshit t&c, one of them is that these birds cannot be deployed in Tabuk airbase (near u know who...). why do saudis bought panavia tornado in the first place if they already have F-15? Becos of US restrictions
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US mmg tak suka US in dealing
Transparent dealing maa mana bleh buat duit

QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ May 23 2020, 09:24 PM)
Someone should remind Thanos of the A 4-Skyhawk clusterfuck during his administration.
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Unfortunately many forgot the "PERISTA" program in the history.
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post May 23 2020, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 09:36 PM)
china told you?  laugh.gif
edit : let me add more to this reply la.
1. Russia metallurgy is shit during the 80s and 90s, so the SU 27 variants suffered several cases of aircraft fell apart, cannot pull sustained over G. thats why russia keep having newer variants with stronger bodies.

2. their avionics is shit.
but racist never understand why they are using Made in China product instead of Made in Russia keyboard.

J16 is miles ahead of SU30mkk
1. radar
2. avionics
3. way way stronger body
4. more powerful engine, yes, better than al31f.

this is China, thats why they are world no.2 .

soviet union even at strongest is not world no.2 in terms of economy strength.
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I make a mistake the Carrier based Shenyang is J-15
my apologies to you

as for J16, they do have much superior radar with AESA radar and electronic due to it was made for electronic warfare
unfortunately I have to disagree on WS-10 engine
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post May 23 2020, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 09:51 PM)
maybe cannot program the flight path outside of malaysia?
you do know they need to punch in the coordinates right?
you think ex-PM is talking bullshit?

even LTZ didnt question his statement, in fact, all the mil fags here didnt  laugh.gif
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what to question when we have answered regarding this ages ago
old news mau cerita buat apa lagi
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post May 23 2020, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ May 23 2020, 10:19 PM)
So is it true or not the article 🤔..

I have always wonder but countries like turkey have alot of F16s and even a few F35..

They x takut ke if this is the case 🤔
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maybe in 97/98 but not anymore
with the amount of upgrade the FA-18 get for free with FMS money it is one of the most versatile fighter in the RMAF right now
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post May 23 2020, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(trojandude @ May 23 2020, 10:46 PM)
he isnt lying, and Malaysia isn't the only one.

You can google it.

US doesn't allow their exported jets to be used unless otherwise authorized by the US. Their jets are basically very restricted

I've read somewhere that these jets cannot target American jets. Not sure if it's extended to all American-made jets, and not just jets from US. I read about this long ago before Mahathir even made this statement.

Yeah he probably did not meant source code (he's not a programmer after all).
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yeah he did not lying except that is the situation in the late 90s
plus the interceptor role and air superiority during the 90s is held by the MIG squadron

QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ May 23 2020, 11:11 PM)
Wanna integrate non standard weapons can also...just need to pay Boeing to do it.
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yes, but all mesti go thru US congress first too
I believe I;ve mention before for the Hornet even to dispose parts with serial no. i.e some type of screw also needed to be documented
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post May 23 2020, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 11:18 PM)
late 90s?

so now Malaysia have full control on F18?

can bomb anyone, anytime ?

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until last year, F16 of pakistan still have such restriction.
but im sure malaysia way better than pakistan  innocent.gif
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if you actually follow the RMAF as diligently you follow PLAAF then you should know that the Hornet only commissioned into RMAF service in 1996
and training and familiarization took about a year + before the squadron are fully operational and since then they have been heavily upgraded in order to keep up the current issue and geo political in the area.

And yes we have full control off all the legacy's weapons and thanks to China's presence in the Asean sea with Spratly issue the US have even very generous with the weapons system and support that most TUDM can only dream off in the early 2000.

Pakistani restriction issue is not even the same with Malaysia the political relation with India pretty much sums it all up
even stated during the procurement of the F16 that the bird cannot be used in military issue with India and the reason why the US are investigating the downed of the India MIG as they believed that the F16 is the one that fired the missile. But most of us do think that the bird was the aggressor in that incident that lead to the dawned of the IAF MIG-21
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QUOTE(Zarazagoza @ May 23 2020, 11:29 PM)
Lol
Unconfirmed reports claimed the first flight of the J-11D was powered by a new WS-10 variant; the variant reportedly had improved reliability, with a thrust of more than 13t, but less than that of the AL-31F-M1. The flight was revealed in early May 2015.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_WS-10
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correct there is still some major issue with the ws-10 engine
but in time they could be corrected
but for sure not in the near future but not too long
the ws10 are not affected the J16 more the the J15 due to the doctrine as the J16 is a land bound fighter while the J15 is a carrier bound fighter.

QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ May 23 2020, 11:30 PM)
Oh okay, that means they can only pull back support in software/hardware maintenance and also ammunition and put sanctions in worse case scenario...
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All US hardware also like that even the closer ally like the even the Japan and Korea and NATO nation
but unsure about Israel but US still restricted some of the munition for the IDF only to be releases when conflict happened

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post May 24 2020, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 11:47 PM)
noice, are you saying if the hornets could be better if they were commissioned early? or later? well they cant sell that until they have super hornet for themselves isnt it.

obviously US is ready to equipment malaysia with better support. i hope you understand the meaning of proxy war  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

and we all know how peaceful india is after invasion of sikkim and kashmir as well.  innocent.gif
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Commissioned early or later does not have much different.
For a new plane to be fully operational they will need some time to learn and handle the new plane.
the other word for this process is "Familiarization Period"

of course I do understand the proxy war and Malaysia soft diplomatic approach currently reap from both of them.

QUOTE(ohman @ May 23 2020, 11:48 PM)
obviously your spies in PLA told you that.  innocent.gif  innocent.gif  innocent.gif
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I would not say spy, but yes I have couple of sources like and most of them is OSINT btw
but I have to say the best man to ask about Russian Bird in Asean area is a Chinese guy from Taiwan
he publish couple of book about Sukhoi plane because that is his specialty and publish several journal in Sankt-Peterburg Uni about Sukhoi and it's capabilities

but I got a much reliable sources, he is actually just come back to Malaysia from ChengDu couple of years ago where..
nevermind laugh.gif
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QUOTE(enviro @ May 24 2020, 04:35 AM)
F18 pilot :" Enemy  F35 on my tail. Requesting source code to deploy counter measures. Over"

A few seconds later

"I am hit. Urgently requesting source code to operate ejector seat"
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CM mana pakai source code, ko klik butang ja

 

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