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DragonReine
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Apr 8 2021, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Apr 8 2021, 07:50 PM) FSM's RHB CMF2 only saw passing mention in first page of this thread. So it's worse than the 3 mentioned above? I am using RHB CMF2 for now, but thinking of switching if there are other better options. CMF2 a teeny bit better than Simple and GO+ but I don't think can beat Versa's HWAEDEP base  I might be wrong, I haven't researched thoroughly into RHB CMF2, only know that it's used for FSMOne users to park extra cash for DCA investing This post has been edited by DragonReine: Apr 8 2021, 08:06 PM
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SUSTOS
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Apr 8 2021, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Apr 8 2021, 08:05 PM) CMF2 a teeny bit better than Simple and GO+ but I don't think can beat Versa's HWAEDEP base  I might be wrong, I haven't researched thoroughly into RHB CMF2, only know that it's used for FSMOne users to park extra cash for DCA investing Before further comments. Just to double confirm. https://support.versa.com.my/hc/en-us/artic...I-pay-any-fees- So, 2.45% p.a. is the fund's actual return (for illustration purpose of course, return fluctuates all the time), management fee and trustee fee are the fund's fee right? (So far I check with the fund's interim and annual report, the 2 fees tally in number). https://nadiablob.blob.core.windows.net/fun...2FIR_EDFHCF.pdfSo Versa does not take any upfront cost? (except that they take trailer fee back-end) If this is the case, Versa actually beats RHB CMF2 by dozens or scores of basis points. https://my.morningstar.com/my/screener/fund...&sortOrder=descConsistent performance for past 10 years, always in top quartile. It seem RHB failed to hire good fund managers even for their safest fund This post has been edited by TOS: Apr 8 2021, 08:38 PM
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SUSTOS
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Apr 8 2021, 08:50 PM
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Tried downloading and installing the Versa app. All seems fine. Then after inputting my email for registration, I can never receive the verification code. Check spam and trash mailbox also found nothing.
Very bad user experience lol
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dummies
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Apr 8 2021, 09:17 PM
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i deposit first time to Versa this morning after i registered with them, it has been more than 9 hours, it is still not yet confirmed, how long it will take for versa to confirm my deposit?
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Ramjade
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Apr 8 2021, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(dummies @ Apr 8 2021, 09:17 PM) i deposit first time to Versa this morning after i registered with them, it has been more than 9 hours, it is still not yet confirmed, how long it will take for versa to confirm my deposit? You need to wait for account to be approved. You register does not mean account approved straight away. Usually take 1 day. Now is you wait or message them and asked.
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ziiriium
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Apr 8 2021, 10:05 PM
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In my opinion: Versa ask few private and confidential questions during new account opening. To avoid money laundering, I think deposit only from bank account with same name is enough. Versa ask the name of the company we work, job title and salary. Due to this few questions, I decided NOT to migrate my money market fund from FSM to Versa.
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!@#$%^
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Apr 8 2021, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(ziiriium @ Apr 8 2021, 10:05 PM) In my opinion: Versa ask few private and confidential questions during new account opening. To avoid money laundering, I think deposit only from bank account with same name is enough. Versa ask the name of the company we work, job title and salary. Due to this few questions, I decided NOT to migrate my money market fund from FSM to Versa. i think most if not all fintech ask those same questions
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tiramisu83
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Apr 8 2021, 10:31 PM
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are all money market fund having the 'almost same' rate?
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hiyyl
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Apr 8 2021, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Apr 8 2021, 08:50 PM) Tried downloading and installing the Versa app. All seems fine. Then after inputting my email for registration, I can never receive the verification code. Check spam and trash mailbox also found nothing. Very bad user experience lol Yea mine too. Took few minutes until i received the code. QUOTE(dummies @ Apr 8 2021, 09:17 PM) i deposit first time to Versa this morning after i registered with them, it has been more than 9 hours, it is still not yet confirmed, how long it will take for versa to confirm my deposit? I just open account on tuesday. Yesterday account approved. Deposit in transit as of now.
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Ramjade
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Apr 8 2021, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(ziiriium @ Apr 8 2021, 10:05 PM) In my opinion: Versa ask few private and confidential questions during new account opening. To avoid money laundering, I think deposit only from bank account with same name is enough. Versa ask the name of the company we work, job title and salary. Due to this few questions, I decided NOT to migrate my money market fund from FSM to Versa. Even FSM will ask you for all that info. If you don't have, wait for it. Once a while they ask you to update all the above details QUOTE(tiramisu83 @ Apr 8 2021, 10:31 PM) are all money market fund having the 'almost same' rate? More or less the same. Last time no. Now with interest rate at rock bottom, everyone rates is more or less the same.
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DragonReine
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Apr 9 2021, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Apr 8 2021, 08:37 PM) Before further comments. Just to double confirm. https://support.versa.com.my/hc/en-us/artic...I-pay-any-fees- So, 2.45% p.a. is the fund's actual return (for illustration purpose of course, return fluctuates all the time), management fee and trustee fee are the fund's fee right? (So far I check with the fund's interim and annual report, the 2 fees tally in number). https://nadiablob.blob.core.windows.net/fun...2FIR_EDFHCF.pdfSo Versa does not take any upfront cost? (except that they take trailer fee back-end)Â If this is the case, Versa actually beats RHB CMF2 by dozens or scores of basis points. https://my.morningstar.com/my/screener/fund...&sortOrder=descConsistent performance for past 10 years, always in top quartile. It seem RHB failed to hire good fund managers even for their safest fund  After fees the projected rate 2021 is something like 2.15 to 2.2%, based on my speculation and the 1M/3M/YTD performance. 2.45% is 2020's final rate after fees and yep, Versa takes no upfront cost or fees This post has been edited by DragonReine: Apr 9 2021, 08:33 AM
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DragonReine
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Apr 9 2021, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(ziiriium @ Apr 8 2021, 10:05 PM) In my opinion: Versa ask few private and confidential questions during new account opening. To avoid money laundering, I think deposit only from bank account with same name is enough. Versa ask the name of the company we work, job title and salary. Due to this few questions, I decided NOT to migrate my money market fund from FSM to Versa. FSM does this too. It's part of country's measures to prevent money laundering and opening of mule accounts. Registered fintech and financial entities all have to do this.
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SUSxander83
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Apr 9 2021, 03:05 AM
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Apr 9 2021, 12:49 AM) After fees the projected rate 2021 is something like 2.15 to 2.2%, based on my speculation and the 1M/3M/YTD performance. 2.45% is 2020's final rate after fees Your projection not too far off from mine after Q1 I calculated the final projection would be around 2.18% for this year QUOTE(DragonReine @ Apr 9 2021, 01:02 AM) FSM does this too. It's part of country's measures to prevent money laundering and opening of mule accounts. Registered fintech and financial entities all have to do this. Basically the set questions are set by SC as part of eKYC minimum requirements for digital MMF as part of their risk management
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ironman16
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Apr 12 2021, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Apr 12 2021, 05:47 PM) no PIDM protected for investment. wanna protected just go with FD or saving acc
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cklimm
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Apr 12 2021, 08:45 PM
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I have received multiple spam messages in whatsapp, following registering for Versa via RPlus, has anyone else receives similar spams?
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Ramjade
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Apr 12 2021, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(cklimm @ Apr 12 2021, 08:45 PM) I have received multiple spam messages in whatsapp, following registering for Versa via RPlus, has anyone else receives similar spams? Nope. I register straight via Versa, no such issue.
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!@#$%^
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Apr 12 2021, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(cklimm @ Apr 12 2021, 08:45 PM) I have received multiple spam messages in whatsapp, following registering for Versa via RPlus, has anyone else receives similar spams? same. applied last week
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Hoshiyuu
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Apr 12 2021, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(cklimm @ Apr 12 2021, 08:45 PM) I have received multiple spam messages in whatsapp, following registering for Versa via RPlus, has anyone else receives similar spams? Can chime in, no problem with Versa. BigPay, on the other hand...
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cklimm
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Apr 12 2021, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 12 2021, 09:35 PM) Okay, I shall write Diana an email then.
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!@#$%^
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Apr 12 2021, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(cklimm @ Apr 12 2021, 10:05 PM) Okay, I shall write Diana an email then. but u have already agreed for ur info to be given to 3rd party the moment u apply via ringgitplus
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