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Xiaomi POCO F2 Pro, The New Flagship killer?

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post Jul 16 2020, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jul 16 2020, 03:58 PM)
I never encountered ads on poco f1 and current mi9T

But then I never use ANY of xiaomi stock apps except Camera and Setting.
I installed Chrome, google clock, google calendar, calculator etc. Many of those xiaomi stock apps, requesting you to accept 'terms and condition' thing when first launch, I immediately decide not to use. It's always fishy when they need to ask your consent even for simple apps.
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How about the Gallery?
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Have no issues with ads on my
Poco F1, Poco F2 Pro, Redmi Note 8

Not sure how Poco F2 Pro compared to K20 Pro but with Poco F1, do notice the fluidity and speed definitely faster on the F2 Pro.

Perhaps the 8gb RAM / UFS 3.1 and LPDDR5 do really make a difference.
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post Jul 16 2020, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ Jul 16 2020, 04:35 PM)
How about the Gallery?
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Google Photo biggrin.gif
File = Solid Explorer
Email = Gmail
SMS = Messages ( Google )
Video = MX Player
Music = Poweramp

and using Nova launcher ( then hide all the unused redundant apps, mostly xiaomi one )

Sadly phone apps also stock xiaomi, now recalled Themes and Wallpaper also xiaomi.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jul 16 2020, 05:36 PM)
Google Photo  biggrin.gif
File = Solid Explorer
Email = Gmail
SMS = Messages ( Google )
Video = MX Player
Music = Poweramp

and using Nova launcher ( then hide all the unused redundant apps, mostly xiaomi one )

Sadly phone apps also stock xiaomi, now recalled Themes and Wallpaper also xiaomi.
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Thanks for sharing.
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hi, would like to ask about flashing to EU ROM. once i flashed to EU ROM then can call it a day already? will i get future update ? or i have to keep download updated ROM with updates? and flash again?

and if i want to go back the original global rom still possible?

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post Jul 16 2020, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(lavenzo @ Jul 16 2020, 07:19 PM)
hi, would like to ask about flashing to EU ROM. once i flashed to EU ROM then can call it a day already? will i get future update ? or i have to keep download updated ROM with updates? and flash again?
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It depends on which build you flash. As of now, stable build is released on monthly basis, while beta build is weekly basis. You can download the ROM if there's an update, but OTA update is also available for both, i.e. Monthly update on stable build, weekly update on beta build.

However, I'm not sure if I should recommend to flash EU rom because there has been some users reported that after flashing EU rom, they got stuck in bootloop to TWRP even with formatting data. The only way to make the phone usable again is to use miflash tool and flash the stock rom. If you are lucky you might be able to get away from the bootloop issue and enjoy EU rom. Otherwise, if you are stuck in bootloop to twrp, you have to revert back to stock rom with miflash tool. See below link for further info.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f2-pr...30-pro-t4131301



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Just got a Malaysian Poco F2 Pro from Mi Store at Mid Valley Megamall.

I missed all the sales so decided to just bite the bullet. Paid RM2599 for 8/256.

Got a free Mi Smart Band 4 and Aukey 10000mAh Powerbank.

Not too butt hurt lah
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post Jul 16 2020, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(panafone @ Jul 16 2020, 08:15 PM)
Just got a Malaysian Poco F2 Pro from Mi Store at Mid Valley Megamall.

I missed all the sales so decided to just bite the bullet. Paid RM2599 for 8/256.

Got a free Mi Smart Band 4 and Aukey 10000mAh Powerbank.

Not too butt hurt lah
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Alamak u didn't miss the deal. The deal is still available in lzd. 2399 free mi band 4 😅 but nvm u bought adi, don't be sad
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[quote=ericlks91,Jul 16 2020, 08:36 PM]
Alamak u didn't miss the deal. The deal is still available in lzd. 2399 free mi band 4 😅 but nvm u bought adi, don't be sad
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[/quote

WHAAAT! I knew I should have checked here before buying it 😭
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post Jul 16 2020, 09:48 PM

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[/quote

WHAAAT! I knew I should have checked here before buying it 😭
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LOL
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QUOTE(panafone @ Jul 16 2020, 08:15 PM)
Just got a Malaysian Poco F2 Pro from Mi Store at Mid Valley Megamall.

I missed all the sales so decided to just bite the bullet. Paid RM2599 for 8/256.

Got a free Mi Smart Band 4 and Aukey 10000mAh Powerbank.

Not too butt hurt lah
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QUOTE(panafone @ Jul 16 2020, 09:20 PM)
QUOTE(ericlks91 @ Jul 16 2020, 08:36 PM)

Alamak u didn't miss the deal. The deal is still available in lzd. 2399 free mi band 4 😅 but nvm u bought adi, don't be sad
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WHAAAT! I knew I should have checked here before buying it 😭
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Welcome aboard! Just forget about the deal and enjoy your new phone!

This post has been edited by mfa682: Jul 17 2020, 01:35 AM
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post Jul 16 2020, 11:39 PM

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[quote=panafone,Jul 16 2020, 09:20 PM]
[quote=ericlks91,Jul 16 2020, 08:36 PM]
Alamak u didn't miss the deal. The deal is still available in lzd. 2399 free mi band 4 😅 but nvm u bought adi, don't be sad
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[/quote

WHAAAT! I knew I should have checked here before buying it 😭
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[/quote]

Don't be sad. I'm on the same boat. They only give out mi band 4 1 week after I bought. So yeah i paid 2399 but without miband4
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post Jul 18 2020, 03:05 PM

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So I sold off my Poco F2 Pro (6GB+128GB) last week after just about over a month of using it. Prior to that I was using the Realme 6 (4GB+128GB variant) and my usual practice is to sell off my previous phone once I've settled in comfortably to my new phone. Instead, I decided to sell off the F2 Pro and return to the Realme 6 - a downgrade, somewhat, and so I'll explain.

First and foremost, lets start with what I liked about the F2 Pro: -

- For RM1,999 the phone is definitely value for money, particularly seeing it is a 5G-capable phone (not that you can enjoy that now though) with a SD865 chipset. Built quality is solid and the phone feels really good in the hand, with very even weight distribution.
- The AMOLED screen is also excellent as you'd expect it to be, even though it's only a standard 60hz refresh rate. I've pitted it side-by-side with my Realme 6 running on 90hz but on a LCD display, and I found scrolling on the F2 Pro to be not less smoother than the Realme 6, and when it came to media consumption, there's no competition. I'd pick the 60hz AMOLED over the 90hz LCD any day of the week. The other plus point is there are no punch holes or notches, so you get a full screen experience which is great!
- Speaking of media consumption, the F2 Pro only has a single-firing bottom speaker, which isn't ideal, but to its credit, it is sufficiently loud and the output isn't too bad, but of course you can't expect flagship grade sound quality like you'd get from the iPhones or the flagship Samsungs. Oh - and a 3.5mm headphone jack! That's priceless these days!
- Battery life is good, largely due to a very sizeable 4700mAh battery. Based on my usage (no games), 2-day battery life with 10 hours total SOT is definitely achievable. However, there are some caveats, and I'll touch on that on the things I didn't like about the phone.
- Charging speed is pretty quick with the generous 33W adapter and cable. I don't particularly track charging speed but from one observation, it hit 60% in just about 30 minutes or so from less than 10% battery remaining.
- Photo output is really good and colours are punchy in good lighting. The macro camera really produces some nice shots. Didn't get to upload the photos here coz the file sizes are really humongous, but there are plenty of sample shots taken by way better photographers than myself on other websites so I guess you guys can just look them up. Indoor and night shots are not great but more than usable.

So, why didn't I keep the F2 Pro and returned to the Realme 6 instead? Coz the things I didn't like kinda outweighed the above laugh.gif

What I didn't like: -

- The optical fingerprint reader was inconsistent for me. Sometimes it would work and sometimes it wouldn't. Sometimes it'd recognise my right thumb and not my left, and other times it would recognise the left and not the right. I unregistered and reregistered my fingerprints a few times, but the inconsistency remained. Did not do a reset to see if it would solve the issue though so am not sure if that would have helped. When the FP reader does work, it's also not comparable in speed compared to other in-display FP readers I have tried. Anyways, it could be just a one off, but I'm just describing my experience with it. Mileage may vary with other users.
- The pop-up selfie camera, while it's cool and has nice LED lights which you can customise, has this one behaviour that concerns me - it pops up automatically when you receive a WhatsApp video call. Even when the phone is in your pocket! It's not a big problem and I guess Xiaomi can easily fix this with a software update - which leads me to the next thing I don't quite like....
- Software updates are few and far between. My last security update was March and as a comparison, my Realme 6 is on June update. Xiaomi does update its individual stock apps periodically, but not the overall MIUI software, which probably is no big deal for lots of people, but that just bugs me laugh.gif
- The overall MIUI experience on the Poco launcher is OK, but not great. Again, software and UI skin is subject to personal preference so I won't dwell too much on it. There are still ads planted in stock apps like Cleaner, File Manager, etc. but they can be disregarded as minor annoyances and nothing more. For me, Realme UI was just more fluid and minimalistic and while I don't mind using MIUI (after all I used a Redmi Note 7 for a year), I didn't enjoy it as much.
- I can't quite place my finger on it, but the standby battery drain is inconsistent and unlike any of my previous SD8-series phones (HTC U11, OP7 Pro and S10 Lite). The overnight battery drain ranges from 3%-5%, which is acceptable but seems not as good as the phones I mentioned above, all of which have smaller batteries. In fact, the standby battery drain is not even as good as the Realme 6, which also has a smaller battery.
- And this is probably the main reason I returned to my Realme 6 rather than sticking it out with the Poco F2 Pro before trying another phone: the signal strength of the phone in my office is rather poor. Granted, my room in the office has inconsistent signal strength from my chosen telco service provider, but it seems to be better and more consistent on my Realme 6. Also, my Realme 6 has the stronger and more accurate GPS signal. I won't be quick to blame either the SD865 or MIUI just yet as this was only an occurrence on one phone so I can't be certain. I'm certain of one thing though, Mediatek has improved by leaps and bounds - the GT90 on the Realme 6 has been exceeding my expectations on every level.

In conclusion, the F2 Pro remains the cheapest SD865 phone in Malaysia at the moment and it certainly isn't a bad buy by any means - especially if you're used to MIUI or if you're a fan - then it's a no brainer.


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QUOTE(attw @ Jul 18 2020, 03:05 PM)
So I sold off my Poco F2 Pro (6GB+128GB) last week after just about over a month of using it. Prior to that I was using the Realme 6 (4GB+128GB variant) and my usual practice is to sell off my previous phone once I've settled in comfortably to my new phone. Instead, I decided to sell off the F2 Pro and return to the Realme 6 - a downgrade, somewhat, and so I'll explain.

First and foremost, lets start with what I liked about the F2 Pro: -

- For RM1,999 the phone is definitely value for money, particularly seeing it is a 5G-capable phone (not that you can enjoy that now though) with a SD865 chipset. Built quality is solid and the phone feels really good in the hand, with very even weight distribution.
- The AMOLED screen is also excellent as you'd expect it to be, even though it's only a standard 60hz refresh rate. I've pitted it side-by-side with my Realme 6 running on 90hz but on a LCD display, and I found scrolling on the F2 Pro to be not less smoother than the Realme 6, and when it came to media consumption, there's no competition. I'd pick the 60hz AMOLED over the 90hz LCD any day of the week. The other plus point is there are no punch holes or notches, so you get a full screen experience which is great!
- Speaking of media consumption, the F2 Pro only has a single-firing bottom speaker, which isn't ideal, but to its credit, it is sufficiently loud and the output isn't too bad, but of course you can't expect flagship grade sound quality like you'd get from the iPhones or the flagship Samsungs. Oh - and a 3.5mm headphone jack! That's priceless these days!
- Battery life is good, largely due to a very sizeable 4700mAh battery. Based on my usage (no games), 2-day battery life with 10 hours total SOT is definitely achievable. However, there are some caveats, and I'll touch on that on the things I didn't like about the phone.
- Charging speed is pretty quick with the generous 33W adapter and cable. I don't particularly track charging speed but from one observation, it hit 60% in just about 30 minutes or so from less than 10% battery remaining.
- Photo output is really good and colours are punchy in good lighting. The macro camera really produces some nice shots. Didn't get to upload the photos here coz the file sizes are really humongous, but there are plenty of sample shots taken by way better photographers than myself on other websites so I guess you guys can just look them up. Indoor and night shots are not great but more than usable.

So, why didn't I keep the F2 Pro and returned to the Realme 6 instead? Coz the things I didn't like kinda outweighed the above laugh.gif

What I didn't like: -

- The optical fingerprint reader was inconsistent for me. Sometimes it would work and sometimes it wouldn't. Sometimes it'd recognise my right thumb and not my left,  and other times it would recognise the left and not the right. I unregistered and reregistered my fingerprints a few times, but the inconsistency remained. Did not do a reset to see if it would solve the issue though so am not sure if that would have helped. When the FP reader does work, it's also not comparable in speed compared to other in-display FP readers I have tried. Anyways, it could be just a one off, but I'm just describing my experience with it. Mileage may vary with other users.
- The pop-up selfie camera, while it's cool and has nice LED lights which you can customise, has this one behaviour that concerns me - it pops up automatically when you receive a WhatsApp video call. Even when the phone is in your pocket! It's not a big problem and I guess Xiaomi can easily fix this with a software update - which leads me to the next thing I don't quite like....
- Software updates are few and far between. My last security update was March and as a comparison, my Realme 6 is on June update. Xiaomi does update its individual stock apps periodically, but not the overall MIUI software, which probably is no big deal for lots of people, but that just bugs me laugh.gif
- The overall MIUI experience on the Poco launcher is OK, but not great. Again, software and UI skin is subject to personal preference so I won't dwell too much on it. There are still ads planted in stock apps like Cleaner, File Manager, etc. but they can be disregarded as minor annoyances and nothing more. For me, Realme UI was just more fluid and minimalistic and while I don't mind using MIUI (after all I used a Redmi Note 7 for a year), I didn't enjoy it as much.
- I can't quite place my finger on it, but the standby battery drain is inconsistent and unlike any of my previous SD8-series phones (HTC U11, OP7 Pro and S10 Lite). The overnight battery drain ranges from 3%-5%, which is acceptable but seems not as good as the phones I mentioned above, all of which have smaller batteries. In fact, the standby battery drain is not even as good as the Realme 6, which also has a smaller battery.
- And this is probably the main reason I returned to my Realme 6 rather than sticking it out with the Poco F2 Pro before trying another phone: the signal strength of the phone in my office is rather poor. Granted, my room in the office has inconsistent signal strength from my chosen telco service provider, but it seems to be better and more consistent on my Realme 6. Also, my Realme 6 has the stronger and more accurate GPS signal. I won't be quick to blame either the SD865 or MIUI just yet as this was only an occurrence on one phone so I can't be certain. I'm certain of one thing though, Mediatek has improved by leaps and bounds - the GT90 on the Realme 6 has been exceeding my expectations on every level.

In conclusion, the F2 Pro remains the cheapest SD865 phone in Malaysia at the moment and it certainly isn't a bad buy by any means - especially if you're used to MIUI or if you're a fan - then it's a no brainer.
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Love your honest and detailed review bro 👍. I agree with you on many counts 😁.
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ Jul 18 2020, 11:28 PM)
Love your honest and detailed review bro 👍. I agree with you on many counts 😁.
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Thanks bro thumbup.gif

Looking forward to trying the OP Nord next - if they price it right! smile.gif
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QUOTE(attw @ Jul 19 2020, 08:32 AM)
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Looking forward to trying the OP Nord next - if they price it right! smile.gif
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seems not as right as it is now.. based on gamehide preorder price.
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QUOTE(kamikraze @ Jul 19 2020, 09:45 AM)
seems not as right as it is now.. based on gamehide preorder price.
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Anybody having problems with Google Photos on this phone?

Mine seems incredibly slow and stuck on "status updating". It also takes forever to update new photos taken with the camera and the sharing options doesn't work.

I came from the OnePlus 7T and I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the POCO experience so far. Will give it a couple more weeks, but right now I feel this phone isn't as good as the hype.
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QUOTE(panafone @ Jul 19 2020, 10:46 AM)
Anybody having problems with Google Photos on this phone?

Mine seems incredibly slow and stuck on "status updating". It also takes forever to update new photos taken with the camera and the sharing options doesn't work.

I came from the OnePlus 7T and I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the POCO experience so far. Will give it a couple more weeks, but right now I feel this phone isn't as good as the hype.
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Didn't use Google Photos with the F2 Pro, just used their stock gallery, but in my books, Oxygen OS is the gold standard for fluidity and smoothness in Android skins/UI. Bit difficult for MIUI to match that experience laugh.gif

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