if about the property ,actually the biggest evil there is their own govt, cos the govt is biggest and de factor properti developer by control land resources, a tiny piece land open auction for tenth billions, so build bird cage lo, and big developer needs to pay high auction fee as political subserviency to govt, yes govt ask them to bid start in high high price one you need to belive it, then govt have high income and developer develop bird cage skyrises offer to hk sakai tat have no other choice (but to buy)


after 2000 hk govt get money from squeeze and limit land resource there, bcos they start loose economic position as toilet janitor money collector for entry to china, especially after china enter into wto, thats why things are too expensive, so if later someone say i want to relax the land resources of cos those previous one will sound cos they will loss life savings, and the money gotten is channeled into mainland hand by some funny project, example build a mrt station cost 90billion ringgit, a fake island cost 300billion ringit, airport 400billion, its squeeze its islander to apease higher up and end up skinny and poorer and in return rely more on the boss where it given up its money, its a vicious cycle set in place since 2000, only after 2006 that hk is economically insignificant to china , before that hk economic output measures around 1/8 of china and 1/3 of pearl river delta. for a small island that is something


and since china open up hk economic role lastime as toilet entry fee collector is no more, so their govt turn more to land as resources and it attract mainlanders also to invest for diffrent way of rules , at least till 2007 dissident in china can seat safely in hk, its the differences that let riches love it and that atttraction, but now even the hk govt want to toe and follow to beijing wishes mean rules are same and there is very little rule of law especially political things so nobody wants to go far away to a place of same rule, so hk is very fast degrading themselve to second line city in china, it got no economic specialty and now it los political specialty, it bcome just another chinese city, those govt head that sell hk is their islanders true traitor (but to beijing is patriot) , but that is hk people problem and now cannot lansi ody they are commies now, now is transition generation so u see some noises, old class fading away in vain protest, later when transition is complete, hk is just another china city, and filled with people that have grudge to govt but only talk in coded messages privately and keep heads low like now in other cities, the subserviency is completed, hk as once pearl of asia is no more it seem inevitable now


toilet janitor fee collector (hk) is useless people, yet bcos he (hk) sit there he collect fee (business hub and facility) and feel bcome superior than others when others want to pee (enter china). but once the toilet (china) got two door the fee collector suddenly no more able to collect fee and left with dunno what to do, that is hk govt in 2000

Easier i believe thanks to TVB dramas. Some that can be rewatched to this day and enjoyed, quite a number on Youtube as well. Been watching some Greed of Man and trying to get my eldest kid pick up some Cantonese

Lei lum leh?

What if I told you, those old TVB series were all acted about by Shanghainese refugees speaking Cantonese contaminated by Shanghainese?

Mat 7 yeh lei geh

Ng moi ddly tak mo...

this, there used to be alot of shanghai refugees in hong kong last time to escape communist invasion

now estimated there are as many as 1 million hk ppl with shanghainese descent

I would say tell me more haha. How old you talking? 60s to 70s?

Some of these actor refugees were very long lived maybe worked into the 90s. Haha

Elitists like Lee Ka Shing has benefited from the 官商勾结 (developer and gov't hush-hush with each other aka collision)

On the bright side, HK has ICAC which is independent unlike our anti-corruption body that runs by Jib Gor. BN is so full of fail.

The elites work with elites to keep the system or house in order. Ruling party gives "concessions" to the opposition party to calm down them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IrV9iWyxfs...HVJQURrF7Rxrphp
"Traditional elites were willing to concede many economic demands to liberals (oppositions) over the following decade in exchange for their abandonment of the revolution." - Mark Bray, short description on two-party dictatorship.

"No revolution succeed, unless a significant portion of the ruling apparatus, in particular --- the security apparatus, refuses to defense the discredited regime"

HK has lost its "gateway" to China. The world no longer needs HK to have access to PRC. In fact, it is now the other way around. PRC uses HK to get "stuff" that are blocked by the West and whatever to go into PRC, e.g., technology, loans, banking, etc.

The "white glove" 白手套 of HK. Related to 1MDB and Jho Low.
HK and Macau are the havens of washing money. British (British Overseas Territories) and many other countries have their own tax havens as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ9i8cGJNoM

This post has been edited by Meis: Dec 7 2020, 03:25 PM

Niki Chow. Many Shanghainese in HK are/were tailors.

theres another actress, old actress n kelefei, she always speak shanghainese in dramas

Also HKer with Shanghainese ancestry. She was famous for interviewing Jiang Zemin's "Too Simple, Sometimes Naive" outburst and tirade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5M-OSqDJIc

icac under commie land is tool to get rid of whoever not align with power only and as a show case of "rule of law", see, got law and got rule, civilised one good one

if here bijan is bad, there is 100x worst in term of money figure and how far extreme measures could go

lee ks definitely receive alot of goodies from british, tats why most retired hk governor are directors in his company, leeks also receive alot goodies from mainland, that is real help launch him into tycoon status challenging the original british taipans, his first big property project is backed by citic of china. now china dont like him so cant see any more mention of his link to citic on any mandrin website, lastime honeymoon mention he, the huoyingtung, dengdanrui etc six tycoons of hk is protege of citic and example of asian trumping the whites, and huoyingdung role is smuggling of banned goodies in 60s and 70s especialy to guangdong govt before china turn sour with ussr and hug american

without political or economic specialty hk is inevitably turn into just another city in china, its much evident in popular culture like movie music etc, cantoness song now bcome second tier to mandrin already and their tv show like those once china kampung style giving weird outdate feel, whoever selling its political n economic specialty is real traitor to the little island there but not our problem, we not hker

this one im on jiangzhemin side, and jiang looks way much more comical and better than current robotic face paralyzed leaders

You mean poker face and classy.

brought over to cantonese as well la..

our cantonese are broken. very diu 1

raining
they call lok yu
malaysian say lok sui lel......

Malaysia n Cantonese aldy mixed with so many dialects

Mix
Malaysia call cham cham
HK kau mai



This post has been edited by bereev: Dec 7 2020, 04:25 PM

do u know what is lok sui in canto?
hhahahahaha

This post has been edited by KrankZ: Dec 7 2020, 04:29 PM

Malaysian canto sudah rojak edy. You can't compare them with with hongkies.