Solar Calendar Do consider changing the title to "Why Malaysian Cantonese is different to HK Cantonese, Guangdong Cantonese, etc." since this thread has evolved into all regions of Canto speaking discussions.

1% different is not big deal. You are over-exaggerating. And it's not that hard to exclude those alien words and re-correct it.

I've found another list of...
Malaysian Cantonese is corrupted
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/show...se-is-corrupted

Previously posted this...
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=96408055

Solar Calendar
Add these lists to the 1st post for education and info purposes, just in case if someone needed it. I'm sure someone will be reading it in the future.

This post has been edited by Meis: Dec 5 2020, 08:00 AM

It is no big deal to be slightly different and why is there a need for "pure" Cantonese to begin with? It is just fucking day to day language among the locals, you are not going to need correct grammmar to pass exam or publish articles in international journal.

Not pure, just standardization... Standard Cantonese. I'm all about unifying ppl. Not dividing and not making unnecessary division.

Once a upon a time, there is a foreigner who said, "You do not need 1000 different dialects just to refer a spoon." Even a foreigner, an outsider laughed at us. He laughed at our weakness.

Why do you think Lee Kuan Yew dislike Singlish and criticize it in his books? You should read his stuff where he was puzzled by the Pacific Islander's English in one of his massage sessions.

There is a fine line between formal and informal speech. I would stay away from "rojak" in a formal speech.

Do you not know there are Sub-Cantonese languages/dialects existed in GD and Guangxi? You will pull your hair out when you encountered one.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=96413637

This post has been edited by Meis: Dec 5 2020, 06:09 PM

I remember one sohai joke

He was in HK sight seeing at the morning market and wanna buy some food

He saw a banana and he asked the fruit monger how much is this “kung jiu”

The fruit peddler than looked at him with a weird manner and responded

“ my bananas have no sexual orientation, they are no male and female”

My friend was dropped dead

And which is the "standard" Cantonese or any other dialect? It is only barely possible for lingua franca like English or Mandarin because there is influential authority like government or media (BBC English) which even then still subject to variation due to influnce of local culture or community. Cantonese? Nobody is interested in standardisation when it is not really a lingua franca in any way. People just converse in local context. It is different story for major language as you want to speak to international audience.

Ultimately, there will be localisation or "rojak" language in any part of the world, a great example will be Swiss German. As long as it is in informal context, there is really no utility to force people to change it.

TS ni ong9

Okay done. Thanks for developing this thread into one stop info on Cantonese language.

Because language is always evolving. Only dead languages stay the same.

Classical Chinese and latin.

why suddenly this tered become so serious one?


This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Dec 6 2020, 12:22 AM

Language is tool. Good tool, you keep it. Useless tool, you throw it out. Part of human evolution.

A language must serve 2 purposes: Culture and economy. Meet these 2 requirements and it will flourish.

In the old days, the Cantonese dominated the KL region. They built lots of stuff, including Chinese schools and Jalan Loke Yew. They are also the major group. All Chinese groups in KL agreed to made Cantonese as a lingua franca.

Now fast forward, who is the dominant force? Mandarin speaking in across Malaysia is a thing. Clearly all Chinese parents have acknowledged that it is important to "reconnect" the past and the Rise of China. In the same time, we didn't abandon English because we still see it as an important lingua franca.

They all are related to culture and economy.
Watching English TV shows. English speaking office environment, especially big multi-national corps. Etc., etc. You get the drill.

This post has been edited by Meis: Dec 7 2020, 01:30 PM

Try 'har kung' & 'lou hai (crab)' lol..

Sabahan's slang lol

DDLY

hk people lastime very lansi say bolehland backward outdate

now commie come rule them

its karma

We are a civilized society. Sometimes, it is OK to have intellectual conversation.

This post has been edited by Meis: Dec 7 2020, 01:59 PM

I even joked on that. HK's suffering is someone else joy.

HK needs to fix the land price. And then they are good to go. Look at Singaporean and German housing.
GD local gov't should help them as well; e.g., HKers who work in GD, get tax break or something. Gain some good positive points.
Almost everyone in SG laughed at HK since the riot, radical movement in last year.

HK is too capitalist. Little that people know that SG has decent "social program".

Not long ago, CY of HK tried to implement left leaning policies.

The capitalist class, upper class, liberal intellectual people (like Chip Tsao 曹捷) hated CY for his people's oriented policies, left leaning policies. He gave too much "social welfare" to the people. CY's "eat the rich" policy was his down fall. Now HK ppl regretted themselves for being brainwashed by the yellow camp and Apple News. After the last election in Dec 2019, the blue camp KOL scene rises like crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...3QIKptKPJYXoPYF

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...mIkRyB12Lt52aiH





She is a HK KOL. A former light yellow camp, then switched to blue camp. Now she stays in Shenzhen and HK.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...nNPjOU3jPeHSUpC





This Malaysian guy supports the blue camp. He even has connections with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b_6TKrhm14

This post has been edited by Meis: Dec 7 2020, 02:39 PM

Mando uses 4 tones
Canto uses 13!
13 tones!

That's Hakka not Cantonese

Meaning Canto most diff.language 2 master on earth?!!