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Meis
post Apr 19 2020, 10:05 PM

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ah beng TS does not know what is 懒音 lazy tone LOL



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post Apr 19 2020, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 10:13 PM)
I always say kopi suet. Is this KL? I m from KL.
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Both are acceptable and understandable. Dun worry.
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Zeliard @ Apr 19 2020, 10:21 PM)
I'm from Ipoh

The only main difference is cent. We use chean. Kl uses kok.

Eg 10c. Yat chean. Yat kok.
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"kok" could be derived from Hakka or Hokkien. Hakka or Hokkien words have slipped into Cantonese in Malaysia is nothing new.

Again, both are understandable for me. You ain't no gonna use "kok" in HK.

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post Apr 19 2020, 10:46 PM

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A list of "weird" Cantonese in Msia:

https://chineselanguage.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=654
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:48 PM

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suet cha is the king

economic and cooling
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:53 PM

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HK Cantonese is like US English
Guangdong Cantonese is like British English
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:55 PM

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This one is from Guangdong. Their reactions to recent Chinese pop culture stuff and programs

https://space.bilibili.com/274412048/
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:57 PM

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I watch plenty of HK gaming stuff


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post Apr 19 2020, 11:02 PM

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Guangdong

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL76E49D4265A87F58






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post Apr 19 2020, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 11:02 PM)
I wonder if anybody still speak Cantonese in Guangdong
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r u dumb or simply brainwashed by garbage?

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post Apr 19 2020, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 11:03 PM)
Pubg
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FPS is on these folks:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr9O9uLhxn...nVseEAnA/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/arearehin/videos

PUBG had lots of PRC streamers and amois
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post Apr 19 2020, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 11:05 PM)
I thought most in China speak Mandarin only?
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China sometimes can be regionalism if you get the drift. Chinese ppl speak thousands of languages. Every regions, every cities, every towns, every counties, every villages speak different languages (figuratively speaking).

Go there, take a taxi and go to the shops and speak Canto. I did that. They replied back in Canto.

About 50% or so are native Guangdong yan and is still speaking Cantonese in varying fluency, another 50% or so are non-native Guangdong aka some decades ago they were migrant workers, etc.

There are plenty of half Canto and half other regions offsprings. Their Cantonese fluency is based on how much they exposed to their Cantonese father side and family.

Just think about Penang ppl who moved to KL for years. Or the Hokkiens who born and breed in KL.

Some examples:

SNH48 - Xuyang and Zhao Yue are half Canto and half other regions offsprings. Both their mothers are non-GD.

Xuyang can speak Canto, but on rare occasion. She grown up in GD and exposed to Canto.


Her father @ 25:40
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SNH48 - Zhao Yue grown up in her mother's province, so she didn't expose to Cantonese at all. Her father is Guangdong yan. Notice her name "Yue"? "Yue" means Canto. It's a telltale sign. I think she mentioned about it in one of her stuff.
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Zhao Yue was in her father's hometown in GD for annual reunion. Ppl in the background speak Canto or Hakka for a little bit.
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GNZ48 - Huang ChuYin
100% fluent in Cantonese. Average native Guangdong yan family I guess.


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...n8MqkeOv_8yTdfl

With her sister





GNZ48
Guangdong radio and TV are still standing and exist, but you probably do not know. ASTRO used to have GDTV. Even the Taiwanese student in GD can speak Canto.




















Go to bilibili.com and search for it.

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post Apr 20 2020, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(ymc2303 @ Apr 20 2020, 12:16 AM)
because your/hk cantonese is not pure. go guangzhou and listen different type of cantonese.
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Some of them speak sub-Cantonese. The further you are away from Guangzhou, the capital of Guangdong, the higher chance they speak sub-Cantonese (non-standard).

Do ppl understand what is Standard Cantonese?

http://phonemica.net/

http://phonemica.net/entry?mid=543746312bd...782aad0&story=0

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post Apr 20 2020, 12:32 PM

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^ both of u are nubs

IT IS CALLED LAZY TONE:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4945720?author=Meis

Many decades ago, the elders in HK used "nei". The younger gen use "lei" bcoz of LAZY TONE aka tongue failed.
How do I know? The younger gen of HK asked and did research on it, the elders in HK. I watched a docu of it.

Using "lei" means you are a nub.

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post Apr 20 2020, 12:40 PM

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from GD, PRC; based in HK



https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...svM9Dt36zaOVtee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w96UbMnbzKY...baLlPFZT0hY_hV4
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post Apr 25 2020, 09:32 PM

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We know the TV had no swearing due to self-censorship. The best way to learn is from casual conversations. Live streaming on twitch, live streaming and Youtube videos from HK gamers and videos about HK politics are the best.

Examples:

Gaming
https://www.twitch.tv/ankgaminghk
https://www.twitch.tv/mochi125

Anti-Beijing, pro-opposition, dis-info, fake news, fear mongering, right wing. I do not recommend anyone to learn 'truth' from this places but to learn Canto is OK.
https://www.youtube.com/user/D100HK
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSJ7F-9d351iCvla2IzAQoQ/

Pro-Beijing, debunking the yellow or black ribbons.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...mIkRyB12Lt52aiH
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlBe-TQfjLFINSSYQt9Tjg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFfLWSnUCblI4Lpsph7H1lA
https://www.youtube.com/user/albertip/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkFRfv77kNA


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post Oct 6 2020, 04:27 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL76E49D4265A87F58







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post Nov 18 2020, 01:34 AM

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post Dec 2 2020, 11:54 AM

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From their accent, you can tell where they are from.

https://weibo.com/yuezhiyier

https://space.bilibili.com/95515699/video

https://www.youtube.com/c/%E7%B2%A4%E7%9F%A...E5%9B%A2/videos

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL76E49D4265A87F58

She looks like Niki Chow lol

https://weibo.com/u/1823376742



backup
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1o541137zG





backup
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cz4y1y72H

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post Dec 3 2020, 02:54 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5IZoMHDRHV9j7MYMGNO_Ug







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