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 Strength Brag (Yes Syd, I Noe), Pretty PR's Rep Or Weights

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carlsuen
post Aug 4 2007, 01:59 AM

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not really.. a good friend suggested against it.. so i took this week off as i was sick and i guess it's a good time to recover.. and cuz i'm pretty washed out on the weekends.. preparing for merdeka performance at stadium merdeka every weekend.. saturday night and sunday full day morning till evening under the sun.. so i felt the effects.. so i may continue to add weight to the bar but maybe at a 3 rep range..


Added on August 4, 2007, 2:01 am
QUOTE(yeeck @ Aug 4 2007, 01:58 AM)
That's too polite. You mean our regular attention-whore?  hmm.gif
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lol dude.. i dunno who it is.. and i don't wanna guess.. but i'd bet it's a reg as it's someone who knows what's hapening here..

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post Aug 4 2007, 02:02 AM

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cool wat kinda of performance u doing in stadium merdeka? dancing or something? or taking photographs?
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post Aug 4 2007, 02:06 AM

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a mixture of things.. it's a 20 mins performance.. so mixture of human formations.. wave effects.. human wordings.. patterns.. dancing.. total of 1400 performers.. i'm attached to my Buddhist NGO.. Soka Gakkai Malaysia(SGM)..
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post Aug 4 2007, 09:28 AM

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i got a friend into this as well. this buddhist thingy with 1400 performers bla bla. i dono wat is it la
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post Aug 5 2007, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 4 2007, 09:28 AM)
i got a friend into this as well. this buddhist thingy with 1400 performers bla bla. i dono wat is it la
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Joey interested in this too I guess , his friendster got a lot of these cool stuff.

Gosh,I can't take beef at home...
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post Aug 5 2007, 11:59 PM

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Guys, when I try to break squat PR it's always the OMG-I-wanna-puke-NOW-NOW-NOW-my-heartrate-is-going-crazy-OMG-I-is-white-faced situation that pulled me behind. Unlike DL or bench I've never hit any plateau caused by lack of strength yet.

Am I alone in this or wot? I can has wrong breathing techniques?


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post Aug 6 2007, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 5 2007, 11:59 PM)
Guys, when I try to break squat PR it's always the OMG-I-wanna-puke-NOW-NOW-NOW-my-heartrate-is-going-crazy-OMG-I-is-white-faced situation that pulled me behind. Unlike DL or bench I've never hit any plateau caused by lack of strength yet.

Am I alone in this or wot? I can has wrong breathing techniques?
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Do u see 'stars' as well? lol..

When I was reaching my maxes on Rippetoe.. usual its damn gila.. gotta tend to rest longer as heart rate is sky high.. I used to keep my breath when i go down and up those days. Blood pressure will definitely shoot up as well.

I personally find holding my breath when going down and exhale half way up.

However with max-ot.. I hardly do to failure though.. coz if i were to do it to positive failure 4-6rep.. I bet I can't finish rest of my other work out. Plus the rest gap is not very long.
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Tell me about stars. If I had a ringgit for each stars I'd be RM3481 richer by now biggrin.gif

I think 3x5 was too taxing for me since I started Rippetoe with 68% bw squat. Madcow only 1x3 PR attempt no?


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post Aug 6 2007, 12:30 AM

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er.. breathing problem? inhale to max 1st, hold ur breath when going down, exhale to the max when going up. works well for me this way. if i hold my breath up, i'll stall. so try to exhale while going. makes sure to fill ur tummy full with air before going down.


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7) Big Breath, Core Tight

At a powerlifting meet, you'll always see the competitors taking a big breath immediately before they do any of the lifts, but especially before they squat. Taking in and holding a big breath prior to squatting increases your intra-abdominal pressure (IAP) and intra-thoracic pressure (ITP). Not only does this help stabilize the spine and make it more rigid, it also helps you move more weight.

After you've taken a big breath, you want to get all your core muscles really tight. Your low back should already be tight from using the muscle beach effect, but you also need to get your abs and obliques tight. Really brace your abs. In other words, make them tight like you're about to get punched in the gut. This mechanism is called abdominal bracing, and it's been scientifically proven to be more effective than abdominal hollowing. (Low Back Disorders, McGill, 2002).
sauce : http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459389

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post Aug 6 2007, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 6 2007, 12:30 AM)
er.. breathing problem? inhale to max 1st, hold ur breath when going down, exhale to the max when going up. works well for me this way. if i hold my breath up, i'll stall. so try to exhale while going. makes sure to fill ur tummy full with air before going down.


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sauce : http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459389
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What about when doing chin up and dips ? I found out I will dizzy after doing that , I breath in when pulling up , breath out when going down . Correct?


Added on August 6, 2007, 7:27 am
QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 6 2007, 12:30 AM)
er.. breathing problem? inhale to max 1st, hold ur breath when going down, exhale to the max when going up. works well for me this way. if i hold my breath up, i'll stall. so try to exhale while going. makes sure to fill ur tummy full with air before going down.


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sauce : http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459389
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Hey Jones , u sure that when doing bench press we should arch our back ? I saw bb.com the exercise guides database said that we have to keep our back flat on the bench not ding hong kap yiu. sad.gif

Barbell Bench Press - Medium Grip

Exercise Data
Main Muscle Worked: Chest
Other Muscles Worked: Triceps, Shoulders
Equipment: Barbell
Mechanics Type: Compound
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What NOT To Do:

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Tips: Lie on a flat bench and firmly position your feet flat on the floor a little more than shoulder width apart. Keep your back flat on the bench! Using a grip broader than shoulder width, hold the barbell above your body, then lower slowly to the middle of your chest. Without bouncing the weight off your chest, drive the barbell up over the middle of your chest until your arms are straight and your elbows are locked. Lower the bar down slowly.

Learn More About This Exercise: View Guide


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post Aug 6 2007, 08:21 AM

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My gym insists this is the correct way..

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screw them lah.
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post Aug 6 2007, 08:28 AM

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Abdominal bracing eh. That's why they do belts? Interesting brows.gif
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post Aug 6 2007, 10:24 AM

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canopies.. u do realise that this is a powerlifting thread? so the form discussed here are strictly based on powerlifting technique.. arching the back is used by PLs in competition hence some of us adopt this technique..

what u saw on BB.com is just that.. a body building technique focused on building muscle.. while what jones posted was for PLs who focus more on pushing more weight and completing the lift as fast as possible..
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Aug 6 2007, 07:21 AM)
What about when doing chin up and dips ? I found out I will dizzy after doing that , I breath in when pulling up , breath out when going down . Correct?


Added on August 6, 2007, 7:27 am

Hey Jones , u sure that when doing bench press we should arch our back ? I saw bb.com the exercise guides database said that we have to keep our back flat on the bench not ding hong kap yiu.  sad.gif

Barbell Bench Press - Medium Grip

Exercise Data
Main Muscle Worked: Chest
Other Muscles Worked: Triceps, Shoulders
Equipment: Barbell
Mechanics Type: Compound
user posted image

user posted image

What NOT To Do:

user posted image

user posted image

Tips: Lie on a flat bench and firmly position your feet flat on the floor a little more than shoulder width apart. Keep your back flat on the bench! Using a grip broader than shoulder width, hold the barbell above your body, then lower slowly to the middle of your chest. Without bouncing the weight off your chest, drive the barbell up over the middle of your chest until your arms are straight and your elbows are locked. Lower the bar down slowly.

Learn More About This Exercise: View Guide
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in my opinion, if i retract my shoulder blades, my back will arch slightly. i believe retracting shoulder blades is good practice to protect the shoulders.


QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 6 2007, 08:21 AM)
My gym insists this is the correct way..

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screw them lah.
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i think the bar may fall from grip accidentally. do they tell u why this is correct way?

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QUOTE(T+1 @ Aug 6 2007, 10:34 AM)
in my opinion, if i retract my shoulder blades, my back will arch slightly.
i think the bar may fall from grip accidentally. do they tell u why this is correct way?
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precisely.
They say more power.
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post Aug 6 2007, 11:16 AM

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even for bodybuilder u need to arch ur back while benching, but only ur back, and keep your shoulder and butt on the bench.

or, instead of saying "arch ur back", I should say "push out ur chest"
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Aug 6 2007, 11:16 AM)
even for bodybuilder u need to arch ur back while benching, but only ur back, and keep your shoulder and butt on the bench.

or, instead of saying "arch ur back", I should say "push out ur chest"
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exactly. ARCH YOUR BACK! KEEP YOUR ASS AND UPPER BACK ON THE BENCH. bb.com missed out the upper back part.

watch this video
http://thefitshow.com/week3/milos_chest_med.htm

at 3.08 minute. to be exact

push the chest out, arch a little cukup la. for bodybuilding. if its powerlifting, a totally different story

@canopies

always exhale when u r using strength. applies to everything.

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post Aug 6 2007, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 6 2007, 12:51 PM)
exactly. ARCH YOUR BACK! KEEP YOUR ASS AND UPPER BACK ON THE BENCH. bb.com missed out the upper back part.

watch this video
http://thefitshow.com/week3/milos_chest_med.htm

at 3.08 minute. to be exact

push the chest out, arch a little cukup la. for bodybuilding. if its powerlifting, a totally different story

@canopies

always exhale when u r using strength. applies to everything.
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Wow , useful info ...Thanks a lot lot !!!


Added on August 6, 2007, 5:21 pmIf found any nice fitshow clip , pls share with us eh ...Thanks ya cleared my doubt.

P/s: wow , powerlifting and bodybuilding really have big differences

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Aug 6 2007, 05:20 PM)
Wow , useful info ...Thanks a lot lot !!!


Added on August 6, 2007, 5:21 pmIf found any nice fitshow clip , pls share with us eh ...Thanks ya cleared my doubt.

P/s: wow , powerlifting and bodybuilding really have big differences
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powerlifting - to lift the heaviest weight. Use all means to make lifting a weight as easy as possible, as long as not breaking the rules.

bodybuilding - to get the maximum work done with a particular weight. Use all means to make lifting a weight as difficult and as suffering as possible.
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reporting day one of smolov........

100KG (225LBS) X 9 REPS X 4 SETS=quivering legs.

It took about 30 mins to complete, and by the time I was done, I felt really bad and shook and trembled. Felt like puking so badly.....had to rest for nearly 30 mins before I felt okay again. It was pretty fcuking horrendous and I'm sure if I don't eat enough, I won't be able to have enough energy for the next 3 days of squatting.

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