desvaro, ur training method sounds a lil bit like chad waterbury's training, r u following those? Since he has some training method are mainly for athelete who needs strength.

I've read articles from Chad Waterbury, and also many articles from T-Nation.

Almost all of them suggest similar methods for strength gains in athletes.

http://www.t-nation.com/article/bodybuildi..._my_cranium&cr=

I derived my current routine from this article, the part about muscle building.

Nice to see someone who knows about Chad Waterbury's methods =)

So to answer your question, I guess it is partly Chad Waterbury, but it is suggested by many other strength coaches as well.

I don't know because we don't usually measure our verts. However, when we stretch and warmup, some of us like to hop around and straighten our legs and bounce. No intention of jumping high, but just bend and straighten knees.

Pretty high also can bounce just like that. Now on hypertrophy period, going to gain some weight, hopefully lifts go up as well!

hehe, i had read this article b4, and now i m reading his muscle revolution, alot detail training method he mentioned there.

Ya know guys, I'd just like to say like thanks for making this a thread where we can discuss pursuits to get stronger. The inputs so far are great and although I don't know what the heck Chris Waterbury's concepts are considering I hardly read his articles, it's good that someone's sharing info about it.

And if you guys are looking for back breaking routines that will surely test your mental and strength limits, I can post some more.

and for those who can't go ATG like really ATG, check your torso length. It could be because of it. My torso's extremely long, thus making ATG a totally different definition from a short torso individual. What that means, for weightlifters, is the need to have a more powerful extension.

Then again, what I'm saying is likely to relate to just me. VBleh...talking to the wall only

Blame the torso. As usual.

I find a way to solve it, not blaming it. Pulling a stronger extension isn't blaming. It's working harder on the top extension.

ronnie coleman always says.. everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody wana lift no heavy ass weight.

good stuff i read.

1) Rest periods for strength: If your main goal is strength, the length of the rest intervals should be long enough to allow the nervous system to recover almost completely, but not so long that you lose what's called the post-tetanic potentiation (PTP) effect. The PTP effect refers to the phenomenon by which your contraction strength potential will be increased for up to five minutes after a heavy set because of a greater neural activation.

The peak effect (greater potentiation) occurs around two to three minutes after a near-maximal contraction. The effect then gradually loses its effect so that it's gone by around the fifth minute. So when training for strength, you should rest around three minutes between sets of the same exercise.

You'll still have the full potentiation effect with less rest, but you'll also have some neural and/or muscular fatigue which will counter the PTP effect. When you're doing a proper strength session, you should actually become stronger with every set of an exercise (until cumulative fatigue sets in after four or five sets).

kicap : http://www.t-nation.com/article/most_recen...nd_rest_periods

Go to hell...I don't believe them. I don't feel any stronger after every set when I'm deadlifting x10....

One thing I hate about t-nation articles, is bcuz of their need to use big words. And usually I'll skip writers like Thib and Poliquin. Damn technical and disappointing articles. I'll read read and suddenly notice, "Bloody hell!! I've learned this already!"

They just wrote it in a way more complex manner. And I read this during my interest in bodybuilding days, which was 2 years ago. It ended about as soon as it started.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Jul 10 2008, 09:19 AM

Actually if you read the article, the getting stronger effect works when you're doing low rep sets, not deadlifting x10.

When I deadlift for 3-5 reps, I feel that I get stronger and stronger after each set until the 5th set or so.

Here's the thing, the reason they write it in such complex manner is because they not only want to tell you what to do, they also want you to know why you are supposed to do that.

Do you know that Poliquin is regarded as one of the best coaches in the world? So many countries are fighting for him to coach their olympic teams.

In jest son. In jest.

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This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Jul 10 2008, 11:19 AM

Isnt Chad known for his 25Method?

He got tonnes of methods lah....couldn't be bothered reading through tne whole thing