read about it. but then madcow DF is some what too advance for some of us here. very much complicated. i'll try to do it after i'm done iwth madcow for another 6 months like tat.

i'm born weak lah uncle...
i can't win u in an arm wrestling match...

and i certainly can't dip 80++ kg.... especially with perfect form.
You got it from ur dad, jones... admit it.

hey i started doing bw dip at 2x5 man. i start doing dip with that rep and set since i started rip toe. took me 2 months to reach 3x8, then i put on 25lbs plate and started doing 2x5 again, until now only i can finish 3x8. u think i started dipping at that weight from the start? all about determination and decipline man.

I started squatting at Smith + 5kg /side!!!!

Whenever I see girls squatting with 20lbs bar, I'll remember those good days

yeah.. that's what i thought too when i first started the SF 5x5.. i was like.. "whoa.. damn complicated.." but right now after a year and half on the SF, i've learned more about my body, recovery rates, and i feel i finally milked all my newbie gains after 2years of lifting..

so when i went back to read up on the DF, it wasn't so hard to understand actually.. in fact.. it's pretty easy to follow.. as it has 3 parts.. namely, loading phase, deload and intensity phase.. i didn't understand the difference in rep ranges and frequency of workouts initially.. but after training for an amount of time and taking breaks in between, i understood why..

so continue to eat and lift and u will get a pretty good idea how ur body works and how these programmes work too..

yeah u should try it and give us some feedback. cuz when i look at the template and read the article about it. i'm like huh? i dont understnad a shit and the template is fukking complicated lol

ok... my bad
you earned it...

i never gave rippetoe a chance

yeah i was damn suprised to hear u didn't do rippe toe and straight to madcow. and also one question la king. why so fast chg to HST? u just did madcow for like 3 months man. i'm sure madcow can last for a year

This is not the last of madcow...
i'm coming back, definately...

I'm getting too fat, and i'm tired of bulking.
In fact, i was cutting while on madcow until Mr. Wu started scolding.

I wanna do HST, fix my lacking traps and arms....
get leaner... then clean bulk from there on madcow.

besides, u saw my squats.... i need to get back to basics..
HST is the key to go lightweight & higher reps.

I dun really get what's so complicated about DF and SF. They're pretty simple...heck, if someone too lazy to read, actually just input weights and do can already lah....try westside or metal militia. Hehe....that's .....compllllecayted!
Took me 3 days to understand it!

Kingie is a bb'er. So he HST'er lah......lantak ah, personal preference. Dieting, grams, macronutrients, bleahhhhh~!!! I can't handle that. I like my durian, my tempoyak, my mee goreng, my sambal laksa, my kepang goreng, my escargot and what not. I cannot watch my diet......whee!

metal militia? whats that??

hey you... i need more vids from you.
I checked ur youtube account, how come only 3 vids??
u deleted all ??

it's not my account. it's sumone else's. She helped me upload cuz I cudn't get it.
Anyway you wanna see forms, dunit wait for me. CHeck out t-nation, elitefitness.com, elitefts.com youtube also got a lot of videos.

http://www.aceathlete.com/hatch/video.htm

watch and learn how to squat, clean, jerk, snatch bla bla

it's actually not hard to understnad at all.. haha.. but like i said.. i think u need to have a certain amount of experience to be able to understnad it..

pizza, u still on the DL routine?

Nope
I quit it
I cudn't handle it anymore. Your back will literally feel like SHIT the entire week. I mean it. It's too difficult. And you'll feel very very stuffy and sweat the entire day. For nearly 2 days, you'll sweat and feel hot constantly. And I mean it dude, I MEAN it. You also feel extremely hungry all the time AND TIRED.Fatigued!

But I managed to somehow bump my deadlift to 355LBSx1 and 300LBSx5 with it though. In just 3 weeks. I feel that I'll be able to pull about 385LBS in another 5 weeks. I should be able to.

Right now, I'm doing something like a madcow thing.......but only thing I have a day dedicated to 65% maxes. 8x3 kinda sets, and for dl's I have a day that I do 5x5, speed pulls. Then I also do rack pulls with shrugs and pull from a decline. I can't incorporate chains and bands cuz i don't have them......but I do certain things like, every reptition, I get my friends to throw out the 10LBS plates, so I can hit more reps.
And also I get them to add more 10LBS plates after every rep also.

It's quite fun but taxing of course.

i guess so. DL is damn taxing. the DL program is like doing DL 3 times a week right?

NAH
ONCE a week is enough to tire you the heck out.
Nowdays, apart from just deadlifting, I also incorporate high pulls, heavy good mornings, power cleans, overhead squats (learning slowly) hoping all thise can help my deadlift and squats. For the time being, I'm more focused to deadlift because my knees aren't extremely happy with me. So I'm slowing down on squats first.

Just a question , why we hardly see any guys doing DL in our gym ? Feeling kinda preasure when people watching u do DL , once i look at them ...they quickly doing bck their workout.

Jones,dont u feel it?

So what you're trying to say is you're gonna start on the dual factor of Madcow?