2020...school probs not yet resolved

How to progress?

Don't forget Mara and UITM too

Ironically it is actually easier to mingle with another race in SJK nowadays as non-Malay rarely send their children to SK.

Got him

Of course as SK are now operating as agama schools in disguise, SJK is the only place where the races mixes.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Jan 4 2020, 08:56 AM

Vernacular schools welcome all the students from different races, meanwhile UITM and Mara only accept students from certain race, otherwise their maruah could be challenged or insulted

And yet those stupid racists only protest to abolish the vernacular schools somehow, you can see how farking hypocritical for those racists

Maybe it is time for all intelligent individuals to stand and start calling for the abolishment of such schools instead even including Christian Missionary Schools that has been operating like agama schools for donkey years. Wait why the hell should the intelligent get involved anyway ? This is the government's job. Fixed this shit or there's the door.

It’s not about producing smart student or not. If you’re born smart, no matter which school you’re born, you will remain smart.

For me having many separate school system is a cause of racism. I am not just talking about only vernacular school, all kind of sekolah agama also to be blamed. Vernacular school and sekolah agama should be fully privatized and cut from government’s funding. Any school wishes to remain funded by the govt should subscribe to the streamlined syllabus.

And to make things simple, just go back to our penjajah and borrow their education system and syllabus and implement it here. Afterall IGCSE have a much much easier syllabus compared to what we have now. O-level will be a piece of cake for average student in Malaysia. It’s not like we are not used to copying, most “malaysian standards” are 90% copied from “british standards”.

And at higher education level also, everything should be revamp. Anything MARA related should be open up to everyone, based on merit, but financial merit should have more weight, which means kids of B40 regardless of race should be the priority. And also streamline all post SPM education, either everyone go to matriculation or everyone go to STPM. No multiple confusing system. But some university’s foundation course can remain provided the course is tailored to the degree course that the specific student will read later. Otherwise, general foundation courses should be scrap and everyone goes to general post SPM courses.

TLDR: remove everything R&R based. Streamline everything.

This tered still alive?

Abolish everything la. Vernacular, religious, all. Single-stream school for all, English teaching medium for STEM subjects and the rest in Malay. Compulsory beginner Mandarin and Tamil and elective for more advanced level. Ban private schools except for non-PR immigrants.

Done.

Yeap. Open up everything I say!

However it must start from the beginning. The primary school.
I remembered when my first born went to primary school in the UK. How excited she was telling me there are so many different people in the world with different skin, different languages, different background learning together, playing together.

It's very refreshing to hear such an innocent view of things from. A 4 year old then...

Children are never racist to begin with, what culture them into one is the surrounding, the upbringing (especially things that parents and friends told them) and the lack of opportunity to meet and understand others from the young age.

While the argument is that SJK is open for all races, it remains the fact that the majority of the particular race will send their kids there.

My eldest is now standard 5 and in her class in SK There's a good mixture of Malay and Indians, Sikh and even Sarawak Bumi but with only 2 Chinese. That's an imbalance if I ever see one.

This post has been edited by dagnarus: Jan 4 2020, 09:19 AM

based and unitypilled

Beats me why some ppl still thinks mixing everyone in the same school and magically, somehow, we will achieve unity. Makan in toilet during puasa, separate cups for muslim children and nons, and to a certain extend closing the whole canteen during puasa (non muslims no need to eat also during puasa is it? This never happened during my time in sk), all these happens in vernacular school is it? Look at those jamal red shirts, look at those shouting bossku, look at those shouting racial hates and threats in social media, they all also coming from vernacular school is it?

Its not the school, its the system, idiots

And for all the supposedly superior single stream school etc etc. I have asked this question many times yet have never received any answer:

Why can't you go ahead and convert all national schools to single stream school, upgrade the teachers & education standards FIRST then only look at vernacular schools? Why die die must abolish vernacular schools first THEN only talk about single stream schools? Can anybody answer this?

Give a superior quality of education and you don't even need to abolish vernacular schools, they will die off by themselves from low enrollment. In the 70s-80s, vernacular schools almost died off because national schools were perceived to be equal or even slightly superior than vernacular schools. Today, how many national schools can you honestly say is genuinely superior than vernacular schools?

You force ppl away from national schools with low education quality, religion (mahathir himself says national schools are like sekolah agama now) and racism. Instead of fixing this to attract ppl back, lets do a short cut, abolish the vernacular schools so everybody have no choice but can only go to 1 national schools. Lets call it unity

I also reckon that! Mara, UiTM should be closed for good!

My kids primary school I'd say majority are malays and indians. Few chinese except in PPKI. This is in a town with equal proportion of malay, indian and chinese and dll tak termasuk indo, bangka dan myarmar (serta vietmoi).

These syok sendiri people always speak so high about themselves. Spouting fact from their arse. If sjk so dam good, give me facts and figures la on their achievement. Bragging a lot malays go into sjk , while it's less than 10%? 5%? Can't even speak bahasa properly. Ask the Malay why would they send their child to sjk. I for one would consider sending to sjk is to learn the language. Not because sjk is better than sk. Once sk can have Mandarin class in sk, there is no need to send to sjk anymore

Typical SJK student cannot speak Malay punya mindset.
Go to school and test the students first before you say this.

can anyone pass any research or statistics that prove vernacular teaching is better that national system?

for research purposes.

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what does international school promotes ?
diversity . common language : english .