Beats me why some ppl still thinks mixing everyone in the same school and magically, somehow, we will achieve unity. Makan in toilet during puasa, separate cups for muslim children and nons, and to a certain extend closing the whole canteen during puasa (non muslims no need to eat also during puasa is it? This never happened during my time in sk), all these happens in vernacular school is it? Look at those jamal red shirts, look at those shouting bossku, look at those shouting racial hates and threats in social media, they all also coming from vernacular school is it?

Its not the school, its the system, idiots

And for all the supposedly superior single stream school etc etc. I have asked this question many times yet have never received any answer:

Why can't you go ahead and convert all national schools to single stream school, upgrade the teachers & education standards FIRST then only look at vernacular schools? Why die die must abolish vernacular schools first THEN only talk about single stream schools? Can anybody answer this?

Give a superior quality of education and you don't even need to abolish vernacular schools, they will die off by themselves from low enrollment. In the 70s-80s, vernacular schools almost died off because national schools were perceived to be equal or even slightly superior than vernacular schools. Today, how many national schools can you honestly say is genuinely superior than vernacular schools?

You force ppl away from national schools with low education quality, religion (mahathir himself says national schools are like sekolah agama now) and racism. Instead of fixing this to attract ppl back, lets do a short cut, abolish the vernacular schools so everybody have no choice but can only go to 1 national schools. Lets call it unity

I give you 1 example- SMJK Sam Tet


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMJK_Sam_Tet

So far I'm unable to find any reference to this school in any education rankings. Most of the ranking lists I found are mainly SBP or MRSM (sample)

Google search finds this list of top 10 best secondary schools 10 Sekolah Menengah Terbaik Malaysia 2017 but I'm not able to find the complete list of all srk, srjk, smk, smjk in the country and their rankings. At most I'm just able to find this (sos)

Perhaps you can find any reference to this school? I'm genuinely curious how SMJK Sam Tet stands in the national rankings especially for 2015 and 2016

This post has been edited by bigwolf: Jan 4 2020, 08:21 PM

While I'm not dismissing the academic achievement of these schools, I'm just wondering how complete was the list and how was the ranking done, is it inclusive smjk or excluded?

Thanks bro, thats what I'm looking for

Read again my post, carefully this time.

And btw, like it or not, vernacular schools and sekolah agama are protected by the constitution, so all these hapuskan sekolah vernakular hapuskan sekolah agama are moot in the very 1st place

Read again your own post:


Also, read again my post and try to understand why the bolded parts

Like I asked so many times previously:
Why can't you go ahead and convert all national schools to single stream school, upgrade the teachers & education standards FIRST then only look at vernacular schools? Why die die must abolish vernacular schools first THEN only talk about single stream schools?

And what is this about reducing political power of non-malays? They are not malaysian citizens? Only malays are entitled to rule this nation?

Why should malays refuse it when we're upgrading the existing sk to better than before?

So in a hypothetical scenario, if lets say the non malay has the experience and qualification, but because he comes from minority race, therefore he has no right to enter politics and govern the country? Is that what you say?

This post has been edited by bigwolf: Jan 5 2020, 10:28 AM

And I've already told you the problems and question. I'm not gonna repeat it again either.


And this here is the tragedy. Seems like experience and qualification does not work here, but rnr. If the best way to attract majority of the votes is by playing rnr, then don't blame the minority for resisting or leaving. Sure, you can force everything through like what you suggested, just be aware that you are advocating tyranny & apartheid

lel, you don't go around the ground or read about the opposition don't you

Unifying education system is not tyranny or apartheid. Your method on how to go about it is

Go tell it to the oppo politicians, especially PAS.

Like I said, abolishing vernacular, religious, uitm, etc to unify the education system is not tyranny or apartheid. Your method on how to go about it is. If you already have the might and numbers, then just go ahead and do it, no need to explain or justify anything

Fyi, in my school time back in the 80's to early 90's, national schools that time were strictly national schools. There were no agama classes. We only had kelas moral and best part is nothing was taught in that class. Basically it's like an unofficial recess period and we all of us melayu, cina, india would be monkeys in the class until the next period. . You want agama, you go mengaji after school or go sekolah agama.

National schools should not be the place to teach Islam or any other religions.

Thats what it means by closing down vernacular schools lor, hence my question lor

"National school". Try and understand what the word "national" means. Hence the reason why muslim students rightfully went to mengaji after school or enroll in sekolah agama

Because, like, vernacular education is guaranteed under the constitution? Up to me la whether I want to go study in chinese or in bm. Just don't force the choice away from me can? *Putting aside discussion on quality