Third this

See, Forbes Malaysia Top10 Richest!
Advantage of another languages, is an advantage in securing job!

#Enough said!

Hmm.

I do not think Robert Kuok studied in a vernacular school.

A few in the list actually went to study in English school.

Not sure what point you're making. It seems most of them went to an english ed school.

In fact i went to the same school as one of their children, so i can definitely say that at least one of them continue to send their kids to their old alma mater.

i have no doubt that learning extra language do give benefits to the student. not only chinese, other language too. question is, apart from language, what are the good things that SJK can offer compared to the national SK? where is the proof?
and like others said, the guys listed there mostly go to english ed school.

Hapuskan lar sekolah kebangsaan. Melahirkan rempit-rempit, samseng-samseng, pacat dan lintah masyarakat yang memerlukan tongkat.

You should send your children to an asrama penuh, an MRSM, one of the SBPs or UiTM and tell us the composition of the races in there, LOL!

in order to make it fair to every citizen and this includes make everyone to have same intelligence, the best way according to some is to make everyone as smart or stupid as everyone else.....

but some people are more equal or fairer than others....

MOE can easily do this analysis along with students' performance end of the day. Tapi beranikah buat?

Then how come many people have the perception that vernacular school is better?

There must be something that support the views, since many here really believes in it.

This post has been edited by mantoto: Jan 4 2020, 05:55 PM

if you like national then go national school la
tak kan i tak suka makan lembu, can i petition to shutting down all the restaurant you guys eating?
bodo

There is never a discussion about which school are better.
The original statement from Asri are vernacular school are segregate the harmony living in Malaysia
to me your statement has more toxic than his speech
Asri are bodo enough, you are way more bodo

Read the thread la abang.

Many well received comments here declared that the main solution to rectify the issue is for SK quality to reach the level of SJKC first, to entice the Chinese (and Indians) to join the SK.

Then when SK standard becomes higher as in SJKC level high, the Chinese and Indian will be willingly send their children to SK for study.

All I am asking is some sort of proof to backup that assumptions or perception.

This post has been edited by mantoto: Jan 4 2020, 06:37 PM

Perception?

How about why people send kids to international schools? There are not any solid statistics or prove either.

I take back my words.

Education are always a complicated issue

what you guys talked about in 18pages are indirectly non-related to TS saying
This thread will appear at first is because Asri said something want to abolish SJK.
There's nothing about the quality of education from the statement.
He purely made a racism bash on these system which i think he is more trash in every way.

Tanah Melayu, abolish SJK, balik tongsan
This kind of people should jail and can in hundred ways.
Hate speech would only provoke tension rather than a structure discussion.

You are not going to be able to get any data from the English or Malay sources in the country. There is an unofficial policy of not giving publicity to Chinese schools, or their academic achievements. If you want to know deeper, you have to read the Chinese press. With my half-past-six Chinese, I cannot do any research from that angle; maybe someone fluent in Chinese can check out some figures or two.

One example

Example Two

Example Three

Example Four

Anyway, as someone who is a relative to two Chung Hwa teachers, I can confidently state that Chung Hwa and Kuan Cheng produce many straight A students in UEC and SPM examinations. Of course, they do not receive any publicity from the national press; precedence is given to emphasizing the achievements of the MRSM, asrama penuh and SBP students. But that's OK, because as can be seen in example four above, vernacular school graduates are able to move on to other countries to continue their education, find meaningful employment and help make those countries great / great again

Because there are no racial quotas inside vernacular schools, unlike our SBPs, MRSMs, asrama penuhs and UiTM, vernacular schools are the standard bearer for unity of the races behind the provision of quality education. The only thing vernacular schools need to do now is ensure that their graduates are fluent in three languages, and that they (the schools) update their teaching methods for the 21st century.

Kuatkanlah sistem sekolah vernakular!!!

The one they asked for comparison are the SRJK and smjk. Which are semi autonomous and semi funded by gomen and also follow syllabus set by MOE. Those schools with uec as per you examples are fully private schools. These dong zong organized school don't recognized those who went to SRJK and smjk as Chinese educated as what one ktard claimed in another tered.

It's not an assumption or perception.
I come from Penang, top schools are either missionary schools or Chinese schools.
AFAIK the schools above have plenty of top A scorers. If your results falls under their average, can't enter them too.

Infact now some Chinese schools for standard 1 demands that the kid at least have enrolled to kindergarten because they don't want to have to waste time to teach them ABC.

So how can a school open to all SK, have better results than the ones I mentioned ??
Because they have vetted the smart students, teachers can't performed will be kicked out, students have tons of homework and outdoor activities

I am from an SBP. Thats the reason why we shouldn't have this shit anymore. Like I said, Kasi buka semua. Takut APA bossku. Melayu bukan Bodo. Ramai je Melayu 4 flat, straight As, first class etc.

It starts from the beginning. Primary school.

This post has been edited by dagnarus: Jan 4 2020, 08:15 PM

I give you 1 example- SMJK Sam Tet


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMJK_Sam_Tet

So far I'm unable to find any reference to this school in any education rankings. Most of the ranking lists I found are mainly SBP or MRSM (sample)

Google search finds this list of top 10 best secondary schools 10 Sekolah Menengah Terbaik Malaysia 2017 but I'm not able to find the complete list of all srk, srjk, smk, smjk in the country and their rankings. At most I'm just able to find this (sos)

Perhaps you can find any reference to this school? I'm genuinely curious how SMJK Sam Tet stands in the national rankings especially for 2015 and 2016

This post has been edited by bigwolf: Jan 4 2020, 08:21 PM

Good.

If that is the kind of mentality and outlook - i.e. Malays can compete with no fear, and that all schools should be open to all on merit (your SBPs, MRSMs, asrama penuhs, UiTM), that the quota system should be abolished, and that every Malaysian child should sit only one common examination (i.e. no matriculation and STPM division bullshit as well), THEN I may be able to get behind the abolishment of vernacular schools. This is only the start however. There are many other details to iron out.