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> I am so sicked of those calling menghapuskan SRJK

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dean.ab25
post Jan 5 2020, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(chemnz @ Jan 2 2020, 11:04 AM)
One nation. One system.

- make bahasa, mandarin, english compulsory (lets be honest, Bahasa is our national language. Mandarin and English has practical uses, so macha dun marah ya. y'all still get 2 public holidays, unlike our Sikh brethren)

- revamp agama islam and abolish pendidikan moral (fight me if you want, but agama islam classes has NOT proven to make muslims better and tolerant people. improve that shit. pendidikan moral otoh is an insult to nons. how to make the schedule you ask? i don't know.. like maybe add an EXTRA FUCKING HOUR for agama islam every few school days?)

- dont hire cikgu bodo & emo. just because u graduated from some uni or maktab perguruan, doesn't mean jackshit if you can't teach. and at least have a decent command of english. dont make the saying "those who can't do, teach" a reality.

- PJK is not a real slot, and PJK teacher is not a real job. well, not unless you actually teach real health and fitness. if not, just focus on after school co-curriculum sports instead. could actually worth something for people who can actually excel of have interest in certain sports

- Ali has 5 guli, Ah Chong has 10, and Ravi has 1. that's a problem. get that shit fixed.
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I agree with some of your points like PJK & Moral but not with Pend.Agama. Pend. agama is not just teaching about human values like Pend. sivik untuk jadi individu/anak/masyarakatlwarganegara yang baik. It teaches us basics of Islamic practices like solat etc. All those ibadat have rules. Kalau orang Islam basic pun tak tau, dah tu buat ibadat main langgar je????
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post Jan 5 2020, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 2 2020, 05:29 PM)
This is the reason why Chinese schools are no longer the school of choice for some Chinese parents. They are too academic focus and any student who can't cope with such a system will be left behind. We always see the glory side of Chinese schools but never realize that there are a lot of failures too.

I have a friend who send his daughter to Chinese school and she was miserable for 6 years from standard 1 to 6. She was always in the weaker student class where she was neglected. Her academic results were terrible and she hated going to school. After standard 6, she was homeschooled and by the time she reach university, her results were excellent. My friend show me some of the assignments she do when she was in form 1 age and I was impressed. Homeschool gave her the freedom to study at her own pace and to her strength.
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The last paragraph happens at SK/SMK, too. Smart students always been favoured by teachers not only in studies but also co-curricular activities. These smart students will participate in any competition as well as become pengawas. The only left for pelajar kelas belakang is pengawas (but will be overshadowed by smart students) or participate in sports.
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post Jan 5 2020, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(dean.ab25 @ Jan 5 2020, 02:01 PM)
I agree with some of your points like PJK & Moral but not with Pend.Agama. Pend. agama is not just teaching about human values like Pend. sivik untuk jadi individu/anak/masyarakatlwarganegara yang baik. It teaches us basics of Islamic practices like solat etc. All those ibadat have rules. Kalau orang Islam basic pun tak tau, dah tu buat ibadat main langgar je????
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Fyi, in my school time back in the 80's to early 90's, national schools that time were strictly national schools. There were no agama classes. We only had kelas moral and best part is nothing was taught in that class. Basically it's like an unofficial recess period and we all of us melayu, cina, india would be monkeys in the class until the next period. . You want agama, you go mengaji after school or go sekolah agama.

National schools should not be the place to teach Islam or any other religions.
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post Jan 5 2020, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jan 4 2020, 11:23 AM)
Beats me why some ppl still thinks mixing everyone in the same school and magically, somehow, we will achieve unity. Makan in toilet during puasa, separate cups for muslim children and nons, and to a certain extend closing the whole canteen during puasa (non muslims no need to eat also during puasa is it? This never happened during my time in sk), all these happens in vernacular school is it? Look at those jamal red shirts, look at those shouting bossku, look at those shouting racial hates and threats in social media, they all also coming from vernacular school is it?

Its not the school, its the system, idiots  doh.gif

And for all the supposedly superior single stream school etc etc. I have asked this question many times yet have never received any answer:

Why can't you go ahead and convert all national schools to single stream school, upgrade the teachers & education standards [b]FIRST then only look at vernacular schools? Why die die must abolish vernacular schools first THEN only talk about single stream schools? Can anybody answer this?[/B]

Give a superior quality of education and you don't even need to abolish vernacular schools, they will die off by themselves from low enrollment. In the 70s-80s, vernacular schools almost died off because national schools were perceived to be equal or even slightly superior than vernacular schools. Today, how many national schools can you honestly say is genuinely superior than vernacular schools?

You force ppl away from national schools with low education quality, religion (mahathir himself says national schools are like sekolah agama now) and racism. Instead of fixing this to attract ppl back, lets do a short cut, abolish the vernacular schools so everybody have no choice but can only go to 1 national schools. Lets call it unity  doh.gif
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Rebrand SJK to SK i.e change the name + all subjects taught in BM. Not closed down the school and make it terbengkalai.
Setuju atau tidak?

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post Jan 5 2020, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jan 5 2020, 02:30 PM)
Fyi, in my school time back in the 80's to early 90's, national schools that time were strictly national schools. There were no agama classes. We only had kelas moral and best part is nothing was taught in that class. Basically it's like an unofficial recess period and we all of us melayu, cina, india would be monkeys in the class until the next period. . You want agama, you go mengaji after school or go sekolah agama.

National schools should not be the place to teach Islam or any other religions.
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Sorry to disagree. It doesn't involve you, non-Muslims (during that period, non-Muslims either have kelas Bahasa/Pend Moral) at different classrooms. Officially it users 3 period/week only, unless Muslims take Pend Syariah + Quran Sunnah, hence it will be 6 period/week. And like I said, it teaches us basics of Islamic practices as well.
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QUOTE(dean.ab25 @ Jan 5 2020, 02:40 PM)
Rebrand SJK to SK i.e change the name + all subjects taught in BM. Not closed down the school and make it terbengkalai.
Setuju atau tidak?
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Thats what it means by closing down vernacular schools lor, hence my question lor doh.gif


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post Jan 5 2020, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(dean.ab25 @ Jan 5 2020, 02:40 PM)
Rebrand SJK to SK i.e change the name + all subjects taught in BM. Not closed down the school and make it terbengkalai.
Setuju atau tidak?
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How about all scientific subject dual Language ( can choose BM or Eng). Have dedicated BM and Chinese subject. Sejarah in BM..

Seems fair right ?











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post Jan 5 2020, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(dean.ab25 @ Jan 5 2020, 02:43 PM)
Sorry to disagree. It doesn't involve you, non-Muslims (during that period, non-Muslims either have kelas Bahasa/Pend Moral) at different classrooms. Officially it users 3 period/week only, unless Muslims take Pend Syariah + Quran Sunnah, hence it will be 6 period/week. And like I said, it teaches us basics of Islamic practices as well.
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"National school". Try and understand what the word "national" means. Hence the reason why muslim students rightfully went to mengaji after school or enroll in sekolah agama


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post Jan 5 2020, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Jan 5 2020, 02:46 PM)
How about all scientific subject dual Language ( can choose BM or Eng). Have dedicated BM and Chinese subject. Sejarah in BM..

Seems fair right ?
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I have no issue with the first one. I learnt Science in PPSMI.
2nd one, in other words, only Chinese teachers have the opportunity to teach because by default (they know both bahasa & Mandarin)??? Wait I don't get your 2nd point. What subjects? Is it other than science?
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QUOTE(dean.ab25 @ Jan 5 2020, 02:50 PM)
I have no issue with the first one. I learnt Science in PPSMI.
2nd one, in other words, only Chinese teachers have the opportunity to teach because by default (they know both bahasa & Mandarin)??? Wait I don't get your 2nd point. What subjects? Is it other than science?
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Sejarah, Pendidikan Morap, Pendidikan all those in BM so the nons can learn more BM from there naturally.
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post Jan 5 2020, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jan 5 2020, 02:43 PM)
Thats what it means by closing down vernacular schools lor, hence my question lor doh.gif
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So what's with teaching in your bahasa other making it easier to understand the topics? *Put aside the quality of SJK
I studied science till degree use English, no "susah nak paham" issue pun.
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post Jan 5 2020, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(dean.ab25 @ Jan 5 2020, 02:54 PM)
So what's with teaching in your bahasa other making it easier to understand the topics? *Put aside the quality of SJK
I studied science till degree use English, no "susah nak paham" issue pun.
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Because, like, vernacular education is guaranteed under the constitution? Up to me la whether I want to go study in chinese or in bm. Just don't force the choice away from me can? *Putting aside discussion on quality
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QUOTE(dean.ab25 @ Jan 5 2020, 02:43 PM)
Sorry to disagree. It doesn't involve you, non-Muslims (during that period, non-Muslims either have kelas Bahasa/Pend Moral) at different classrooms. Officially it users 3 period/week only, unless Muslims take Pend Syariah + Quran Sunnah, hence it will be 6 period/week. And like I said, it teaches us basics of Islamic practices as well.
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down with vernacular schools
up with secular schools

sapa sappork?
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post Jan 8 2020, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(crador @ Jan 4 2020, 04:59 AM)
There are 6 Malays in my son's class in SRJK...
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okay how many classes the school has?
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(sky2006 @ Jan 8 2020, 01:47 PM)
okay how many classes the school has?
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standard one. 7 classes. 40 pupils each.

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