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> I am so sicked of those calling menghapuskan SRJK

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post Jan 3 2020, 03:50 AM

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QUOTE(bamkai @ Jan 3 2020, 12:51 AM)
Mean while andrew yang might be the 1st asian chinese potus. Here in malaysia we still racing about stupid simple things and maruah. A sad wawasan day. Not the day i tought it would be when i was younger
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couldn't agree more

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post Jan 3 2020, 04:09 AM

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It's fine, as the saying!

People will Challenge your domination, when you're successful! Becoz their 'insecurity' & fear!

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QUOTE(kitzai @ Jan 1 2020, 10:26 PM)
1) make public school as shit as possible
2) abolish srjk
3) private school stricter licensing (only certain ppl can have permit)
4) profit
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Those who want succeed will find a way, if private school not available people will self learn using Youtube, go library, etc...

Won't be surprised after abolish SRJK , Private Schools, International Schools, Tuition Centers..these groups will demand studying now have "quota" , whoever "studies" in not approved places or time will be arrested.


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post Jan 3 2020, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(MyJimmy @ Jan 1 2020, 10:07 PM)
A minority can never get sama rata in a democratic country.
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Minorities are protected with special rights in a developed country.
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They are the same bunch of mofos who think that Ultraman Signature move can convert them
Into Christianity

Go figure
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post Jan 3 2020, 07:13 AM

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minority should follow majority
why dont want to be in same school
racist ah?
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post Jan 3 2020, 07:20 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 1 2020, 10:08 PM)
everyday also got Race and Religion topics. Bosan lah, just work together for the betterment of Malaysia please
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agreed... regardless of which racing... work together for Malaysia... one of the reason why Malaysia seems to be left behind to other country is because these kind of people keep raising racing issue regardless of which racing... all are the same... hahahaha..

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post Jan 3 2020, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 2 2020, 05:29 PM)
This is the reason why Chinese schools are no longer the school of choice for some Chinese parents. They are too academic focus and any student who can't cope with such a system will be left behind. We always see the glory side of Chinese schools but never realize that there are a lot of failures too.

I have a friend who send his daughter to Chinese school and she was miserable for 6 years from standard 1 to 6. She was always in the weaker student class where she was neglected. Her academic results were terrible and she hated going to school. After standard 6, she was homeschooled and by the time she reach university, her results were excellent. My friend show me some of the assignments she do when she was in form 1 age and I was impressed. Homeschool gave her the freedom to study at her own pace and to her strength.
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Ah .. didn't know Malaysia got homeschool.
She still took PMR and SPM?
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post Jan 3 2020, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(farkingdom @ Jan 3 2020, 06:56 AM)
Minorities are protected with special rights in a developed country.
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Yup.. Right to make noise lor...
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post Jan 3 2020, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Jan 3 2020, 07:35 AM)
Ah .. didn't know Malaysia got homeschool.
She still took PMR and SPM?
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There are a lot of learning centers nowadays in Klang Valley. She goes to such learning centers and connect to virtual classroom together with children around the world. If she wanted, she can even connect at home without going to learning centers. One thing for sure, she is very resourceful in finding information. Her school assignments are like those proposals we do at workplace. However, homsechool is not suitable for all students as it will need a lot of self discipline. Also, learning centers are operating with tuition center license as there are no proper governance yet unlike private or international schools. It is also the reason why this option is cheaper than private or international school. I think MOE is going to go after such learning/tuition centers soon.
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post Jan 3 2020, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 3 2020, 12:13 AM)
cuz you’re taking these elite and selected high performance school that is monitored by the ministry that are heavily funded with state of the art facilities vs the standard SJKCs which is underfunded, out on their own and has a mixed quality of students yet performs better than average.

and the schools you mentioned are all secondary schools.. i didnt know there’s a SJK in secondary level.. because even the infamous chunghwa in KL is an SMK.

Altho a fair amount of SRJKC actually set their goals to push the kids to enter those said schools with their UPSR result. Which is why they’re so academic oriented and many did succeed... but mainly the goal back in my time was ASEAN scholarship.
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Yeah. Like i said, if you compare top end of SMK vs SMJK, SMK most of the time win hands down. Heavily funded? I’m not sure. Maybe the fund was songlapped. State of the art facilities? No. Biasa2 je. But one this for sure, the teachers are the best of the best. Because if you’re a teacher and you’re transferred to those school, it means that the ministry recognized you as top teacher already.

And like i mentioned those top school in Kelantan, the admission criteria is all As in UPSR (there is backdoor way too if you know someone, well, this is malaysia).

And in Kelantan, Chung Hwa is SMJK.

I used to believe SJK produced good student too. Until I started working in SJK majority industry, only 10% are up to my standard, brain wise. Salary and position wise, they can up faster because their bosses pity them for being oppressed by the ketuanan melayu even they are not competent. Truth is ketuanan melayu is having minimal benefits to salaryman, financially.
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post Jan 3 2020, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 3 2020, 08:57 AM)
Yeah. Like i said, if you compare top end of SMK vs SMJK, SMK most of the time win hands down. Heavily funded? I’m not sure. Maybe the fund was songlapped. State of the art facilities? No. Biasa2 je. But one this for sure, the teachers are the best of the best. Because if you’re a teacher and you’re transferred to those school, it means that the ministry recognized you as top teacher already.

And like i mentioned those top school in Kelantan, the admission criteria is all As in UPSR (there is backdoor way too if you know someone, well, this is malaysia).

And in Kelantan, Chung Hwa is SMJK.

I used to believe SJK produced good student too. Until I started working in SJK majority industry, only 10% are up to my standard, brain wise. Salary and position wise, they can up faster because their bosses pity them for being oppressed by the ketuanan melayu even they are not competent. Truth is ketuanan melayu is having minimal benefits to salaryman, financially.
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Good for you to tell the truth
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post Jan 3 2020, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 3 2020, 08:57 AM)
Yeah. Like i said, if you compare top end of SMK vs SMJK, SMK most of the time win hands down. Heavily funded? I’m not sure. Maybe the fund was songlapped. State of the art facilities? No. Biasa2 je. But one this for sure, the teachers are the best of the best. Because if you’re a teacher and you’re transferred to those school, it means that the ministry recognized you as top teacher already.

And like i mentioned those top school in Kelantan, the admission criteria is all As in UPSR (there is backdoor way too if you know someone, well, this is malaysia).

And in Kelantan, Chung Hwa is SMJK.

I used to believe SJK produced good student too. Until I started working in SJK majority industry, only 10% are up to my standard, brain wise. Salary and position wise, they can up faster because their bosses pity them for being oppressed by the ketuanan melayu even they are not competent. Truth is ketuanan melayu is having minimal benefits to salaryman, financially.
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any notable top smk coming into your mind?
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post Jan 3 2020, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jan 3 2020, 12:32 AM)
if they want to hapus vernecular school, we should also agree with they hapus
PAS, MIC, MCA, UMNO. All these are also segregating the political party base on race.
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DAP also 😂
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post Jan 3 2020, 09:11 AM

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At some point people need to ask if they are malay/chinese/indian or are they Malaysian. Most people dont care about national Identity.

As for schools, there are these pro SK and SJK factions pointing finger at each other; unity vs education quality BS.
I rather these people work together to figure out what works so well in SJK and implement it nationwide.

So whats so special in SJK that makes it better?
race of the teacher?
discipline?
syllabus?
teaching method?
management?

work together and figure those out instead of beating around the bush.
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post Jan 3 2020, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 3 2020, 08:57 AM)
Yeah. Like i said, if you compare top end of SMK vs SMJK, SMK most of the time win hands down. Heavily funded? I’m not sure. Maybe the fund was songlapped. State of the art facilities? No. Biasa2 je. But one this for sure, the teachers are the best of the best. Because if you’re a teacher and you’re transferred to those school, it means that the ministry recognized you as top teacher already.

And like i mentioned those top school in Kelantan, the admission criteria is all As in UPSR (there is backdoor way too if you know someone, well, this is malaysia).

And in Kelantan, Chung Hwa is SMJK.

I used to believe SJK produced good student too. Until I started working in SJK majority industry, only 10% are up to my standard, brain wise. Salary and position wise, they can up faster because their bosses pity them for being oppressed by the ketuanan melayu even they are not competent. Truth is ketuanan melayu is having minimal benefits to salaryman, financially.
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didnt know there’s actually a SMJK because i thought vernacular is up till darjah 6.... at least for KL.. where the SRJK are all refered as SJK here.

that makes this comparison a little off because what ive been talking about are primary SRJKC schools where there’s no entry criteria yet. And students these SRJKC school produced are meant to go for those top SMK by pushing for A’s in UPSR. This strict and focused goal is what most poorer parents look for.

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QUOTE(darosha @ Jan 3 2020, 07:13 AM)
minority should follow majority
why dont want to be in same school
racist ah?
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not everything is about race la... many parents send to SJKC due to its a cheaper alternative to international school... many parents have lost hope in our public school...

i experienced first hand myself actually, still remember my primary school days... i was attending SJKC from primary 1-5... primary 6 went to public school due to that we moved to a new area... to my surprise and my public school teacher surprise... the syllabus in SJKC is far ahead compared to public school... things that they teach in primary 6 i have learned in primary 4 or 5, but just in mandarin... so throughout the year, i was assigned to tutor the weaker students in class although im a student myself... imagine this, when i was in SJKC i was always the last 5 in class, but when im in public school, im the one tutoring others...

dont be so narrow minded and racing only everyday... nowadays there are many non-chinese and even malays who enroll their kids to SJKC as well... i have many malay friends who speak fluent mandarin are so grateful that they did cause they are so on demand in the market now...
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post Jan 3 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jan 3 2020, 12:32 AM)
if they want to hapus vernecular school, we should also agree with they hapus
PAS, MIC, MCA, UMNO. All these are also segregating the political party base on race.
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As if the opinion of the minority matters in a democracy where numbers mean everything.
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Jan 3 2020, 09:00 AM)
any notable top smk coming into your mind?
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My school last time was competing at top of the table. We don’t care much about mid table team.

QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 3 2020, 09:30 AM)
didnt know there’s actually a SMJK because i thought vernacular is up till darjah 6.... at least for KL.. where the SRJK are all refered as SJK here.

that makes this comparison a little off because what ive been talking about are primary SRJKC schools where there’s no entry criteria yet. And students these SRJKC school produced are meant to go for those top SMK by pushing for A’s in UPSR. This strict and focused goal is what most poorer parents look for.
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In front of my SRK was SRJKC Peir Chih. The 2-3 years i was following the UPSR result during my time, my school always perform better. But that was an unfair comparison because you can’t compare camry to city. Should compare camry to accord. But that time i do not know which school was the accord of SRJKC in Kelantan. The competitive spirit wasn’t there until i enter secondary school.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 3 2020, 08:56 AM)
IGCSE.

There are a lot of learning centers nowadays in Klang Valley. She goes to such learning centers and connect to virtual classroom together with children around the world. If she wanted, she can even connect at home without going to learning centers. One thing for sure, she is very resourceful in finding information. Her school assignments are like those proposals we do at workplace. However, homsechool is not suitable for all students as it will need a lot of self discipline. Also, learning centers are operating with tuition center license as there are no proper governance yet unlike private or international schools. It is also the reason why this option is cheaper than private or international school. I think MOE is going to go after such learning/tuition centers soon.
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Wow. I was thinking of traditional homeschool, either private teacher is hired or tutored by own parents at home,and then take public exam. You know, like some western kids.

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