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> I am so sicked of those calling menghapuskan SRJK

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blanket84
post Jan 2 2020, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Jan 2 2020, 03:23 PM)
not really prc company, my mnc bank needs to deal with local authorities, that's why mandarin is advantageous for the role, same for hk environment
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I guess you’re working in PRC? If so then of course it is important the learn the local language.
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post Jan 2 2020, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jan 2 2020, 03:47 PM)
I dont know la. Maybe conversational mandarin ok la kot. But bm and english totally out. All reports in mandarin in the end my China manager kena redo before sending out to hq.
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What’s the point of hiring him then? sweat.gif
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post Jan 2 2020, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 2 2020, 04:01 PM)
I guess you’re working in PRC? If so then of course it is important the learn the local language.
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here and there, not stationed in prc, just that projects are market specific
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Jan 2 2020, 04:05 PM)
here and there, not stationed in prc, just that projects are market specific
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Well if you deal with authorities where the local language is Mandarin, of course it is important for you to master the language.

In malaysia, official documentation mostly can be done in BM and English, so in that aspect we are better than single language countries.
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post Jan 2 2020, 04:14 PM

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post Jan 2 2020, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jan 2 2020, 03:54 PM)
Indeed. That's why I am sceptical when one of the supposed main reason for hiring mandarin speakers is said to be because of dealing with business from China. I dont know about those cinapek company but my experience with MNC was the other way around.
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When it is a required criteria, they will expect to see some level of fluency like read and write.. or perhaps a supporting SPM result... usually can judge through interview.


QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 2 2020, 03:59 PM)
Yeah. Tell that to those racist lowlifes in FB. Write in bahasa rempit that even I don’t understand tapi ada hati nak kutuk non-malay’s proficiency in BM.
But me on the other hand, A in arab in PMR, A1 in BM and English in SPM, so i have the right to kutuk other people’s language proficiency laugh.gif
So i guess learning mandarin in SJK is overrated for chinese speaking people. Only good for non-chinese.
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Sending kids to SJK especially SJKC is not entirely for the mandarin language (afterall from 2002-2012 the teaching medium for science and maths were english). The main purpose is actually for the learning motivation and the teaching environment which is culturally similar to schools in east asia.. where their goal is to excel in exams. Almost every high performing SJKC in KL will have after school classes to further boost the main UPSR subjects and perform hours of revision on past year questions to better prepare the kids for the actual exam.

Comparatively, SJKC is so competitive that the top scorers for UPSR will even be rewarded, in some schools ... with cash from the PIBG's fund. im not joking lol...... And there will be alot of emphasis on the top classes where they are given alot of private opportunities to join competitions or apply scholarships especially the ASEAN scholarship where they will send a batch of promising students every year to take the qualifying exam.

SJKC will always use these achievements to get more students because with minimal funding from the ministry to maintain their school, they survive on "donations" and that the future of the school lies on the student's headcount.

These additional opportunities and initiatives that you dont usually see in SK is what made SJKC stand out.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 2 2020, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 2 2020, 05:40 PM)
When it is a required criteria, they will expect to see some level of fluency like read and write.. or perhaps a supporting SPM result... usually can judge through interview.
Sending kids to SJK especially SJKC is not entirely for the mandarin language (afterall from 2002-2012 the teaching medium for science and maths were english). The main purpose is actually for the learning motivation and the teaching environment which is culturally similar to schools in east asia.. where their goal is to excel in exams.

Comparatively, SJKC is competitive were the top scorers for UPSR will be rewarded, in some schools ... with cash from the PIBG's fund. im not joking lol......  And there will be alot of emphasis on the top classes where they are given alot of private opportunities to join competitions or apply scholarships especially the ASEAN scholarship.

These additional opportunities and initiatives that you dont usually see in SK is what made SJKC stand out.
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Sure or not? Ever heard of SK Bukit Jelutong? SK Tun Syed? SK Bukit Damansara? These schools compete at international level, be in arts, science or maths. And dont start with MRSM and SBP like STAR MCKK SAS TKC even RMC boys excel in music arts robotic debate sports. They even play rugby with angmoh, win gold medal in robotic and invention comp, perform band wind orchestra in europe japan at world level competition.
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 2 2020, 05:40 PM)
When it is a required criteria, they will expect to see some level of fluency like read and write.. or perhaps a supporting SPM result... usually can judge through interview.
Sending kids to SJK especially SJKC is not entirely for the mandarin language (afterall from 2002-2012 the teaching medium for science and maths were english). The main purpose is actually for the learning motivation and the teaching environment which is culturally similar to schools in east asia.. where their goal is to excel in exams.

Comparatively, SJKC is competitive were the top scorers for UPSR will be rewarded, in some schools ... with cash from the PIBG's fund. im not joking lol......  And there will be alot of emphasis on the top classes where they are given alot of private opportunities to join competitions or apply scholarships especially the ASEAN scholarship.

These additional opportunities and initiatives that you dont usually see in SK is what made SJKC stand out.
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Sure or not? Ever heard of SK Bukit Jelutong? SK Tun Syed? SK Bukit Damansara? These schools compete at international level, be in arts, science or maths. And dont start with MRSM and SBP like STAR MCKK SAS TKC even RMC boys excel in music arts robotic debate sports. They even play rugby with angmoh, win gold medal in robotic and invention comp, perform band wind orchestra in europe japan at world level competition.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 2 2020, 03:59 PM)
So i guess learning mandarin in SJK is overrated for chinese speaking people. Only good for non-chinese.
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Hahahah.. I guess?
See how Malays get so cancerous with Bahasa in talking/writing, I think the same can be said in SJK too.

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QUOTE(ramboramsey @ Jan 2 2020, 04:51 PM)
Sure or not? Ever heard of SK Bukit Jelutong? SK Tun Syed? SK Bukit Damansara? These schools compete at international level, be in arts, science or maths. And dont start with MRSM and SBP like STAR MCKK SAS TKC even RMC boys excel in music arts robotic debate sports. They even play rugby with angmoh, win gold medal in robotic and invention comp, perform band wind orchestra in europe japan at world level competition.
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of course i do, my highschool have many that came from one of the schools you mentioned .. but you also cannot rule out the sheer number of SJKCs that equally have a good streak of academic and co-curricular achievements. Not to mention the entry criteria to SJKC is not as difficult... and that they're all just average schools.

But got to note that not all SJKC are good also... deswai some SJKC with the same name but diff campus, one will be favored more than the other eventhough they are side by side.

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post Jan 2 2020, 05:06 PM

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No point arguing.
Half of Malaysian will perished.

See my avatar for clues.
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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Jan 1 2020, 10:36 PM)
wow. this TS must be a dong zong terrorist. hardcore anti-government terrorist body who always care about communism, culture shit and old man thinking.

I hope the government start putting down hard on the dung zong. this ideology is just as bad as the curry buns.

u look at the dung zong people, i even saw a smoker. this kind of people are the kind who will bomb and do terrorism one day just because we dont folow their demands. be very careful man
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Pls la u are comparing dongzhong to communism

Just like how ppl tie PAS to being terrorist.

Ppl like u with that stupid mindset is the epitome of idiocity in this country.

Not every chinese is like dong zhong and not every pas is terrorist. Some chinese want srjk to stick around because they know once u eradicate this that means u will end up like indon where everyone is a sohai.

Protecting srjk is the first line of defence agaisnts sohais like u.

Ps sorry ayam not dong zhong supporter but ayam think logically.

True syoreyz
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post Jan 2 2020, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 2 2020, 04:40 PM)
Sending kids to SJK especially SJKC is not entirely for the mandarin language (afterall from 2002-2012 the teaching medium for science and maths were english). The main purpose is actually for the learning motivation and the teaching environment which is culturally similar to schools in east asia.. where their goal is to excel in exams. Almost every high performing SJKC in KL will have after school classes to further boost the main UPSR subjects and perform hours of revision on past year questions to better prepare the kids for the actual exam.
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Another reason why I oppose chinese schools.
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Jan 2 2020, 05:06 PM)
No point arguing.
Half of Malaysian will perished.

See my avatar for clues.
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New world need the contribution of intelligence people in order to achieve the Utopia (Kingdom Of Heaven) status. Moron will be eliminate.
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post Jan 2 2020, 05:11 PM

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I know so many Malays who send their kids to chinese school last time, now they are successful ppl doing own business.

The main issue here is some ppl dont want to change , but fail to realise that CHANGE is the only constant in life!


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QUOTE(xecton @ Jan 2 2020, 05:08 PM)
Another reason why I oppose chinese schools.
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good mar... good at producing engineers, lawyers, medicine and finance people. Where the skill at reading, digest and vomit on exam papers will help them to get their papers brows.gif increasing our country's occupational technical skill level the quicker way... provided they dont jump to another country.
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post Jan 2 2020, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 2 2020, 04:40 PM)
When it is a required criteria, they will expect to see some level of fluency like read and write.. or perhaps a supporting SPM result... usually can judge through interview.
Sending kids to SJK especially SJKC is not entirely for the mandarin language (afterall from 2002-2012 the teaching medium for science and maths were english). The main purpose is actually for the learning motivation and the teaching environment which is culturally similar to schools in east asia.. where their goal is to excel in exams. Almost every high performing SJKC in KL will have after school classes to further boost the main UPSR subjects and perform hours of revision on past year questions to better prepare the kids for the actual exam.

Comparatively, SJKC is so competitive that the top scorers for UPSR will even be rewarded, in some schools ... with cash from the PIBG's fund. im not joking lol......  And there will be alot of emphasis on the top classes where they are given alot of private opportunities to join competitions or apply scholarships especially the ASEAN scholarship where they will send a batch of promising students every year to take the qualifying exam.

SJKC will always use these achievements to get more students because with minimal funding from the ministry to maintain their school, they survive on "donations" and that the future of the school lies on the student's headcount.

These additional opportunities and initiatives that you dont usually see in SK is what made SJKC stand out.
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Well I came from the best school in Kelantan but not SJK, so i can’t speak on behalf of not so performing SK.

But SK vs SJK in term of performance, just like Canon vs Nikon argument. Lower end model one brand might perform better than the other and vice versa for high end model.

In Kelantan, the “high end model”, SK always win, top school like SIC, Ahmad Maher, Naim Lil Banat is consistently better than SMJK Chung Hwa. Not sure about low end school though. And I can’t speak about school in other state too.

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post Jan 2 2020, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 2 2020, 04:13 PM)
Well if you deal with authorities where the local language is Mandarin, of course it is important for you to master the language.

In malaysia, official documentation mostly can be done in BM and English, so in that aspect we are better than single language countries.
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in some sense yes, but in another way, if u speak their mother tongue, u have better relationship with ur team, and they willing to go extra mile for u

i do the same for people here, see different people, i use different language
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QUOTE(xecton @ Jan 2 2020, 05:08 PM)
Another reason why I oppose chinese schools.
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This is the reason why Chinese schools are no longer the school of choice for some Chinese parents. They are too academic focus and any student who can't cope with such a system will be left behind. We always see the glory side of Chinese schools but never realize that there are a lot of failures too.

I have a friend who send his daughter to Chinese school and she was miserable for 6 years from standard 1 to 6. She was always in the weaker student class where she was neglected. Her academic results were terrible and she hated going to school. After standard 6, she was homeschooled and by the time she reach university, her results were excellent. My friend show me some of the assignments she do when she was in form 1 age and I was impressed. Homeschool gave her the freedom to study at her own pace and to her strength.

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is it really true that SRJK has less funding (in terms of absolute ringgit per number of student) from federal? Has anyone has real statistic data to backup this statement?

or its just a case of perception where, they felt injustice by having better academic result while at the same time receiving same amount of funding with other SRKs.

or that better academic results can be sustained only if there are external donations from parents?

Have you seen SRKs in kampungs?

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