QUOTE(MsGaijin @ Jan 1 2020, 10:10 PM)
Sekolah pondok also receive more, a fine example of 60k yrs genes is you
I am so sicked of those calling menghapuskan SRJK
I am so sicked of those calling menghapuskan SRJK
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 3 2020, 10:59 AM) My school last time was competing at top of the table. We don’t care much about mid table team. Welp, i guess it's location... and not quite fair to compare kelantan to kl as well.In front of my SRK was SRJKC Peir Chih. The 2-3 years i was following the UPSR result during my time, my school always perform better. But that was an unfair comparison because you can’t compare camry to city. Should compare camry to accord. But that time i do not know which school was the accord of SRJKC in Kelantan. The competitive spirit wasn’t there until i enter secondary school. in KL, top SRJKCs are always competing among each other. while the SRJKT and SRK makan popcorn at the side. QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Jan 3 2020, 11:00 AM) Wow. I was thinking of traditional homeschool, either private teacher is hired or tutored by own parents at home,and then take public exam. New trend nowadays.. especially among the well to do. It's now more like a mini international school. |
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Jan 3 2020, 11:17 AM
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just let those srjk srk smk or wadever school to do and teach what they want as long as follow the national standards... dont lower down passing marks. and let the fittest survive.
also keep religion, and politics out of education This post has been edited by zhou.xingxing: Jan 3 2020, 11:18 AM |
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Jan 3 2020, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 3 2020, 11:17 AM) just let those srjk srk smk or wadever school to do and teach what they want as long as follow the national standards... dont lower down passing marks. and let the fittest survive. hope for this to happen very long time, but wont even we wait until 2222also keep religion, and politics out of education |
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Jan 3 2020, 11:24 AM
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change vernacular school to teach chinese/indian languange, religion or culture only...similar to sekolah agama..
absorb all those teachers teaching main subjects from vernacular school into national school..so students morning go to national school afternoon go sekolah agama/culture...same as what the malay have been doing... allowing vernacular schools was a mistake by the old2 government...time to fixed it and tighten our national unity...got to start with the young...the old already ego and stubborn, hard to to change their racist mind set.. This post has been edited by ahpoo: Jan 3 2020, 11:24 AM |
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Jan 3 2020, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 3 2020, 11:17 AM) just let those srjk srk smk or wadever school to do and teach what they want as long as follow the national standards... dont lower down passing marks. and let the fittest survive. Kerep out religion/culture/dong zong out of school alsoalso keep religion, and politics out of education This school breeed extremism and racism Guess that we treat the minorities here so well here..should do the china’s uighur way |
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Jan 3 2020, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 3 2020, 11:12 AM) Welp, i guess it's location... and not quite fair to compare kelantan to kl as well. I guess safe to say SRJKC is better in rich states where salary is good like KL, Selangor, Penang & maybe Johor. Other than that, the statement of “SRJKC produce better student” isn’t applicable.in KL, top SRJKCs are always competing among each other. while the SRJKT and SRK makan popcorn at the side. New trend nowadays.. especially among the well to do. It's now more like a mini international school. I know the reason why. Private school. Rich malays in those states mostly prefer to send their kids to private school or international school. So the composition of students in SK mainly kids with not so rich parents, busy looking for money to feed the family. Most of the parents don’t have time to teach their kids anything at home and end up the parents pushing all the responsibility to the teachers. And most of parents sending kids to SK have a minimum of half a dozen of kids, so the time is even limited for each kid. So they end up producing kids with lack of drive and lack of interest and lack of attention. And it reflect to the kids performance in school. I am a busy father too. I only have 3 hours to spend with my kids on weekdays, which why i limit myself to 2 kids only. So i could spend my time more with my kids. SK performing better in poorer states because nobody send their kids to private school. So most of top kids are in govt school. And not to mentioned parents in poorer state have more time to spend with their kids, as a result, their kids do better in school. |
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Jan 3 2020, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 3 2020, 11:12 AM) Welp, i guess it's location... and not quite fair to compare kelantan to kl as well. But, i don't wanna deprive my kids from the good old school days memory that I myself had. The one that u won't get anymore as adults.in KL, top SRJKCs are always competing among each other. while the SRJKT and SRK makan popcorn at the side. New trend nowadays.. especially among the well to do. It's now more like a mini international school. |
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Jan 3 2020, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 3 2020, 11:37 AM) I guess safe to say SRJKC is better in rich states where salary is good like KL, Selangor, Penang & maybe Johor. Other than that, the statement of “SRJKC produce better student” isn’t applicable. hmmm actually it kinda make sense now.I know the reason why. Private school. Rich malays in those states mostly prefer to send their kids to private school or international school. So the composition of students in SK mainly kids with not so rich parents, busy looking for money to feed the family. Most of the parents don’t have time to teach their kids anything at home and end up the parents pushing all the responsibility to the teachers. And most of parents sending kids to SK have a minimum of half a dozen of kids, so the time is even limited for each kid. So they end up producing kids with lack of drive and lack of interest and lack of attention. And it reflect to the kids performance in school. I am a busy father too. I only have 3 hours to spend with my kids on weekdays, which why i limit myself to 2 kids only. So i could spend my time more with my kids. SK performing better in poorer states because nobody send their kids to private school. So most of top kids are in govt school. And not to mentioned parents in poorer state have more time to spend with their kids, as a result, their kids do better in school. SRJKC in rich states do kinda behave like a private school... because it is not as closely monitored by the gov and they have some form of autonomy as they are actually run by the PIBG. almost all would teach additional syllabus (mostly from SG) on top of the standard syllabus afterschool... keeping the kids in school till 4pm for morning session and the kids from afternoon session have to come to school at 8am for the extra classes. this was actually the practice since even from my time. Busy parents especially those working class will like this system. because it aligns well with their working hours and that they can just leave their kids in school the whole day... like a cheap daycare... deswai more and more malays especially in KL can speak mandarin now I guess this played a role at setting the bar really high for SRJKC in the cities. Meanwhile SRJKC in kampung... i suppose there's no advantage and infact are slower than SRKs because the kids are burdened by learning an extra language following the same time table as SRKs This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 3 2020, 12:08 PM |
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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Jan 3 2020, 11:00 AM) Wow. I was thinking of traditional homeschool, either private teacher is hired or tutored by own parents at home,and then take public exam. You know, like some western kids. I am part of FB group on homeschooling and you'll be surprised that there are mothers who quit their jobs just to homeschool their kids. However, it will only work for primary school. Once their children reach secondary school age, the subjects are more complicated and most parents will not be able to do it alone without help from external parties. |
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Jan 3 2020, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(ahpoo @ Jan 3 2020, 11:24 AM) change vernacular school to teach chinese/indian languange, religion or culture only...similar to sekolah agama.. religious schools are even worse than vernacular schools.absorb all those teachers teaching main subjects from vernacular school into national school..so students morning go to national school afternoon go sekolah agama/culture...same as what the malay have been doing... allowing vernacular schools was a mistake by the old2 government...time to fixed it and tighten our national unity...got to start with the young...the old already ego and stubborn, hard to to change their racist mind set.. |
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Jan 3 2020, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(ahpoo @ Jan 3 2020, 11:24 AM) change vernacular school to teach chinese/indian languange, religion or culture only...similar to sekolah agama.. vernacular school do not teach religion and culture.vernacular school only teaches exact same syllabus as those in sk but in diff languages.vernacular school has longer school hours too for learning bahasa.QUOTE(ahpoo @ Jan 3 2020, 11:24 AM) absorb all those teachers teaching main subjects from vernacular school into national school..so students morning go to national school afternoon go sekolah agama/culture...same as what the malay have been doing... you absorb those teacher from vernacular school to sk, ending up with same badly manage system in sk? it will be the same..... there is a farking similar traits of high performing sk and sjk.....they are all kiasu for education QUOTE(ahpoo @ Jan 3 2020, 11:24 AM) allowing vernacular schools was a mistake by the old2 government...time to fixed it and tighten our national unity...got to start with the young...the old already ego and stubborn, hard to to change their racist mind set.. |
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Jan 3 2020, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(ahpoo @ Jan 3 2020, 11:24 AM) change vernacular school to teach chinese/indian languange, religion or culture only...similar to sekolah agama.. the old gov actually made English the teaching medium regardless of national/vernacular school for brief 10 years... BM compulsory while chinese and indian language became additional...... people started to see some hope in our education standards.... aaaaaaaand then they reverted everything back to where it was. trololololabsorb all those teachers teaching main subjects from vernacular school into national school..so students morning go to national school afternoon go sekolah agama/culture...same as what the malay have been doing... allowing vernacular schools was a mistake by the old2 government...time to fixed it and tighten our national unity...got to start with the young...the old already ego and stubborn, hard to to change their racist mind set.. |
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Jan 3 2020, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(gsem984 @ Jan 1 2020, 09:58 PM) Of course no matter how you argue with these people, even eventually you make them speechless in the end, they would still flash their final weapon: Ni bumi milik siape? U tak suka u keluar! I feel it has nothing to do with identity, inequality or bumi ni milik siapa etc, it's just that kids who go to this type of school have never mixed with other races since they were born, now is this a good or bad thing to begin with?Still, I want to rant, as my 1st rant in this new year. I am not a product of SRJK but I am 100% to support them. They are the identity of Chinese and Indian citizens in this country. And with each Malay, Chinese and Indian has their own identity and living harmony in this country is always what we are proud of. If you take away the SRJK, you take away the identity of Chinese and Indian, and Malaysia will never be the same anymore. SRJK is never the cause of racial problem in this country. If this is valid, I also can say Sekolah Agama, bumi right, 15% discount for bumilot, quota system, and many others are the reason too for racial problem. If want to take away SRJK, then take away all. No more quota system, no more special right, no more reservation for muslim and bumi. Fair? But too bad, equality is always a sin in this country, even in 2020. We just have to live in diversity and inequality, but harmoniously. I am from international school since young. Susan from SRJK©, Siva from SRJK(T) and Khadijah is from Sekolah kebangsaan. We live and work together and love each other everyday. This proves the education background is not a problem to race differences. Happy new year! ![]() This post has been edited by sky2006: Jan 3 2020, 12:53 PM |
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Yang baik, simpan untuk UiTM and Mara, let them convert their subjects all to Jawi! Baru the Chinese & Indian parents see your Jawi people up!
Inb4, never mind my company still emplpy Chinese speakers 1st! Jawi nuh! This post has been edited by SapuraM: Jan 3 2020, 02:16 PM |
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Jan 3 2020, 02:15 PM
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if wanna hapus srjkc we should do the same to religion school
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QUOTE(crazee @ Jan 3 2020, 11:32 AM) Kerep out religion/culture/dong zong out of school also Please do so, everyday tokok so much, mandi dara this and that, but till now no action.This school breeed extremism and racism Guess that we treat the minorities here so well here..should do the china’s uighur way This post has been edited by msacras: Jan 3 2020, 02:29 PM |
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QUOTE(mango27 @ Jan 3 2020, 10:32 AM) not everything is about race la... many parents send to SJKC due to its a cheaper alternative to international school... many parents have lost hope in our public school... if sjkc syllabus is that goodi experienced first hand myself actually, still remember my primary school days... i was attending SJKC from primary 1-5... primary 6 went to public school due to that we moved to a new area... to my surprise and my public school teacher surprise... the syllabus in SJKC is far ahead compared to public school... things that they teach in primary 6 i have learned in primary 4 or 5, but just in mandarin... so throughout the year, i was assigned to tutor the weaker students in class although im a student myself... imagine this, when i was in SJKC i was always the last 5 in class, but when im in public school, im the one tutoring others... dont be so narrow minded and racing only everyday... nowadays there are many non-chinese and even malays who enroll their kids to SJKC as well... i have many malay friends who speak fluent mandarin are so grateful that they did cause they are so on demand in the market now... why not do one aliran in that syllabus no right you dont want to mix you still support segregation according to race and language |
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