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This post has been edited by benbeaninc: Dec 30 2021, 04:43 PM

New Year Solo.
Too bad that raining and wet road, tough time to maintain the pace.
https://www.strava.com/activities/6458839125

Female also can do 30km/hr avg for 100km +
Haiz... Feeling weak

depend where she ride also, different road surface different average speed.
if got group ride, then can pull up the speed much easier.

example this, this is my fren's fren and he overtook me at certain stretch today.
https://www.strava.com/activities/6458674595

Got 10+ cyclists together and cruising 35km/h together but i cant keep their group pace as i losing stamina after solo 120km ride that time.
but the total ride distance of their group are shorter than me 50% and have stamine to push further, hence i carry more load too.

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jan 2 2022, 08:44 PM

of cos there a group riding,
but bro... chill la... female cyclists dah la so lil, dun la halau them away just because they dun ride alone.
bagi muka sikit...

then again now that u mentioned, different road surface different average speed,
so does total distance vs total elevations
i noticed the elevation gains of ur rides are kinda low, which makes it easier to gain higher average speed
Malaysia banyak hills to cycle (except langat n sempah now),
Do try them

35km/hr for how long ... ?
if u can sustain avg speed of 30km/hr, 35km/hr in draft zone should not be a problem, unless u r in the front pack.
if ur route is flat, aero takes precedence, weight does not really matter unless u place them at an anti aero position(s)...
tat is also y, drafting requires some training too to properly draft behind a person

as some of us also mentioned, if you have the right nutrition planning, solo XXXkm u will still be strong at XXXkm unless it is a segment of your weakness.

just wondering, how long have u actual cycled with ur RB?

This post has been edited by benbeaninc: Jan 2 2022, 09:15 PM

No saying halau female leecher, in overall group riding can achieve higher average speed if your group have strong leader to lead most of the route. So cant compare if unless you have your own strong ride group too to compare. or else just follow your own pace only on different situations.

i no means about "road type" (uphill, downhill, flat, mountainor whatever). i means "road surface" only If zero elevation, indoor cycling track, highway roads and kampung roads (with cracked surface and uneven) as all of them are completely flat too. Which surface you like the most? Which surface can gain higher / slower average speed?

Hence zero elevation doesnt means u can push higher average speed all the way, unless you planned to call Grab halfway after exhausted completed then different story. I need reserve some energy to make sure i can reach home with my own efforts. Assumed your car running low of petrol but no petrol station around to refill, will you still step your pedal till 5k-8k rpm that time?

35km/h for nearly 2min but decided to let go to save energy to return home at least without relying on Grab.

And better not to push as i rided solo 120km distance but he rided group 55-60km only where we met at the spots. He have some much energy reserved. If you not ever ride to 100km+ before or santai ride (stop as you like type), you wont know the toughness of endurance which no focusing on average speed but instead of reach destination safely and complete the routes at least, it is simply like long Marathon rather than talking about short sprinting only. that why i even avoid my other cycling fren who just "ride and eat anywhere" type, ride bcos simply go there for breakfast only.

Extra gadgets on bike, aerodynamic affected all the ways, energy draining fast within distance 0-120km which before i leech behind the cycling group. no to mentioned, rain drizzling, wet road, uneven / cracked road surface thru kampung road within distance 0-120km, losing the momentum there to need more energy to pick up again. that why i hardly talk in paper or theories only. Mental strength is another issues if planned for solo. I will call Grab if it is unrepairable mechanical issues or beyond my capabilities, that why i brought multi bicycles tools included with chain repair even, included all the stuffs with the big saddle bag, quite a weight, I hardly find other cyclists carry big saddle bag.

I cycled with roadbike for 7-8 years. Still, i recommended you try long riding distance and gain the experiences. I have many cases to share from many fren that did long distance but still you wont get the actual feelings rather than simply typing here. Action louder than words

Perhaps here u can start from long ride, 100km no really tough if used to endurance.
i got fren accepted (serious on riding), also have other fren refused (eat and ride type).
https://bikecon.co/

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jan 3 2022, 10:28 AM

cool story bro.

in terms of surface, unless we are track racing, we are expected to ride in any condition on the road in Malaysia (Yes we have very bad roads)

but what i was trying to mentioned is your strava punya elevation is not high...
zero elevation u can push higher speed than elevated, this is a fact.
lets not bring up downhill speed

that is y we were advising to drink more water, take necessary rest and fuel up if needed.
some cyclist can sustain 40+km/hr for more than 10mins, hence for them to ride at 100km at 35km/hr is no big deal.

well placed weight may able to improve the aerodynamic of the bike, just look as those monster TT bikes, some weighing in more than 12kg, but able to reach a very high top speed.
look at some Audex riders, their bags are big, cos they are prepared for almost everything.

just FYI, i doubt u know anyone of us here to label our capability.
so better hold back on such remarks if possible.
remember... we dun have to show our d**k5 to proof anything to anybody.
some here may b long distance riders, mountain goats, state riders, or even ironman (if u know what they do).

I am pretty sure most of us here love the social rides, enjoying the accompany of each other and to keep each other safe.
also we are here to share and learn from each other.

This post has been edited by benbeaninc: Jan 3 2022, 11:51 AM

Riding alone at a moderate pace ≠ Riding as a group at a higher pace.

The energy expended alone ≠ the energy expended as a group.

Mental fortitude wise, I gotta hand it to you, you are strong willed.

However your belief that riding solo trumps group cycling is flawed in many ways. Road cycling ≠ triathlon which the latter promotes constant power and not pace to have few energy expenditure. Road cycling in a group may seem to be easier but the erratic power output due to terrain and different cyclists taking turns at the front, to maintain pace and momentum rather than power may or very likely cause cyclists to hit the wall quicker

Sure stats wise they have more to brag but I have seen some whom are very good solo cyclists who cannot keep up with pacy groups because of their incapability to shift their method of riding.

For example, solo cyclists may think it is good enough to maintain 300w up a 3 minute climb but in a group ride, one may have to push it up to 400-600w at certain parts to keep up with the one determining the pace of the climb.

Some of the female riders you seem to condescend are really better cyclists than most of the males I know just FYI.

well said ...

Interesting, been seeing Lee Lee K promote, fit looks good too. might order next sale, not riding enough to justify having more jerseys lol

haha last year i bought the most jerseys in my life in a year ...
last year jersey may still on sale, i hope.
can PM her if u really interested.

meanwhile i have a size M black (new) with me in promo price.
pm me if interested.

well, elevation measurement quite subjective, different device different reading. Some bike computer could not capture the accurate elevation, or could be fake records or no accuracy at all. For my case i using Xoss bike computer data, the recorded elevation about 600+meter for same route, instead i used Strava as standard which about 200+meter that should follow the google map instead.

Yes, some cyclists can reach 35-40km/h but depend how they train with full planning schedule like a PRO.
For me, aiming for average solo 30km/h are sufficient for me as no chances to enter any big events, simply want my heart muscles keep beating at 180bpm.

cant compare those monster TT or high end bike, aero body, smooth bearing, custom made and money issues.
Most of my gadgets bought from Shopee, so cant expect much about the weight, aero, etc.
Unless got sponsorship then different story under master (old man) category. lol.


well said, best always ride at your own pace even in different situations. Even for same route, some of the times i have different pace to keep my momentum, subject to air quality, wind speed & direction, road traffic condition, body condition, etc.

Well, i dont have strong group cycling yet as most of my cycling fren more on "Fun Ride" or "Ride to Eat" style and that why i solo most of times I tried with group ride with my fren and serious ride nearly 15km for the last 25% route and manage to get around 34km/h average. Yes, we keep switching the formation by taking the turns to lead the group, whoever can just lead, whoever cant just follow. Since my most of cyclist fren are not that hardcore, i always place myself into the lead position of group and that why i go ahead with solo as priority. I even tried lead one of my cyclist fren 98% of the route for 120km distance and slowed average speed as his capabilities quite limited.

i realized that the more we are helping you, the more you try to bite back.
so i better i gv a simple advice and i do hope that u think deep abt it.

"The world is very big and almost endless, it is up to ourselves on how wide and far we want to see, which limits our capability to grow. The world which we are seeing may just be a glimpse of a bigger picture, the people which you meet may have a bigger heart inside."

This post has been edited by benbeaninc: Jan 4 2022, 10:26 AM

just simply share my thoughts also thru here so that can learn together.
however it is fine for me to zip my keyboard. Bz life for own working, personal and family.

Sharing thoughts is what the forum is for, but if intention is to learn, you need to open up your mind. Myself included.

Just added you on strava

U mean u added me on strava?
I so shy... Later u see u pui on my profile pic...

And yes,
I also treat this place to learn from our fellow sifus here...
And help out anybody who needed any...

Hopefully one day I am able to ride with the gods

This post has been edited by benbeaninc: Jan 4 2022, 12:51 PM

Of coz must add la, ni local legend Genting Perez

why larr ...

now everybody know how to find me ...

This post has been edited by benbeaninc: Jan 4 2022, 01:53 PM