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TSraikaevil
post Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM, updated 6y ago

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Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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post Dec 20 2019, 11:12 AM

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Refurbish old Myvi will cost just a fraction of buying a new one.
I own a 2010 Myvi and after close to 10 years, I've changed quite a number of parts. The parts I'd say are cheap.
Changing common wear and tear parts, respray I think will be in the range of 5-7k. Buying the car will depend on which year and version of Myvi you get.
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post Dec 20 2019, 11:17 AM

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Get your car refurbished - cheaper
Am using a 10 year old myvi too

Got everything changed, disc brakes, lower arms, absorber, springs, mounting

Then change your player with those camera inputs and speakers

Get a overly priced wash + wax
Pretty happy with the results
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post Dec 20 2019, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(ckseong80 @ Dec 20 2019, 11:12 AM)
Refurbish old Myvi will cost just a fraction of buying a new one.
I own a 2010 Myvi and after close to 10 years, I've changed quite a number of parts. The parts I'd say are cheap.
Changing common wear and tear parts, respray I think will be in the range of 5-7k. Buying the car will depend on which year and version of Myvi you get.
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Does it means if i spend 5-7k, it will be good as new? For now when I drive the car I don't really feel comfortable in terms of the suspension, body frame, stability, and the door sound isolation rubber are like loosen and it hard to close the door ><
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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10year old car no need refurbish d
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post Dec 20 2019, 11:40 AM

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just spend a bit of time researching, and fix up the car. it might cost 1, 5,10, 15k to fix it up, but you will build up your knowledge about car, and why "everything suck" can be fixed.

Myvi is cheap to fix up. just go buy original parts and find a good workshop to help you.

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QUOTE(y4ng @ Dec 20 2019, 11:40 AM)
just spend a bit of time researching, and fix up the car. it might cost 1, 5,10, 15k to fix it up, but you will build up your knowledge about car, and why "everything suck" can be fixed.

Myvi is cheap to fix up. just go buy original parts and find a good workshop to help you.
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:21 AM)
Does it means if i spend 5-7k, it will be good as new? For now when I drive the car I don't really feel comfortable in terms of the suspension, body frame, stability, and the door sound isolation rubber are like loosen and it hard to close the door ><
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it seems that you already want a new car. so if you are financially able to get loan for new car, go ahead then. but do make some homework before purchasing one. because not everything is covered under warranty. and also insurance premium would be higher since it is a new car.

good luck
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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you already emo with old car, even if it is refurbished.. you will always want a new car
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post Dec 20 2019, 11:59 AM

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No need refurbish, just transplant half cut K3vet (>RM5k) in, will be better and much faster than new myvi
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:21 AM)
Does it means if i spend 5-7k, it will be good as new? For now when I drive the car I don't really feel comfortable in terms of the suspension, body frame, stability, and the door sound isolation rubber are like loosen and it hard to close the door ><
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Question is can you live with the old car? Not if the old car can last.

I've first gen and the 3rd gen Myvi. To be honest, the ride quality of the 1st gen is better than the 3rd gen. It absorb the bump humps yellow strip way better than the 3rd gen but of course the 3rd gen one handles better. Why don't spend a few k, make it tip top and then upgrade to something better down the road?
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:21 AM)
Does it means if i spend 5-7k, it will be good as new? For now when I drive the car I don't really feel comfortable in terms of the suspension, body frame, stability, and the door sound isolation rubber are like loosen and it hard to close the door ><
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Yes, as good as new.
Of course you need to know what to change and buy the parts yourself from spare part shop and get workshops to install them for you.
It will be cheaper this way and you can be sure you are using genuine parts.
If you leave it entirely to a workshop, price should be higher.

You can do it one at a time like fix the absorbers, lower arms, suspension link etc and brake system first.
Then go with engine mountings, beltings, fluids.
Then go with the car body paint, rubbers door seals or latches as body shops can do these.
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post Dec 20 2019, 03:02 PM

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refurbish only if you still like the car overall

buy new if you are bored of the current design
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post Dec 20 2019, 10:16 PM


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I had a first-gen Myvi, bought 2010. Earlier this year I wanted to fix it up, to make it nice and fun to drive again. All these while I serviced the car at Perodua service centre and still using all genuine parts, so I was looking at other things to improve it, like chassis foaming, noise and heat insulation, etc.

Then one fateful day I was told the aircon will need to be replaced soon because, well, it’s been nine years. I did the math, decided to sell the car, use the money as downpayment for the highest-spec new Myvi. I’m really happy with it and I enjoy driving it very much.

Sure, it might seem cheaper to just fix up the old myvi now. But I don’t want to spend more time, energy, and money trying to keep the old car alive in five years time (because by then it’s gonna be 15 years old car, and how many 15 years old saga/kancil/Kelisa you see on the road today?)

Eventually I’ll need to replace the old car with a more reliable new car. Might as well do it now. I sold the old Myvi for a little less than 20k this year. I don’t think it’s gonna fetch the same price in a few more years.

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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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First of all, it's not worth to get back same segment new car just to get the NEW feeling

If you can afford a new myvi at 50k, why no use that 50k shop for used higher segment cars, like C segment cars.

1. Can get a 4year old Kia Cerato with it, which is much safer car, about 40k

2. Top up a bit get a 2015 mazda 3 for 60k instead, fully Japan CBU, much safer, much more luxurious feel to it. Of course maintenance will be higher.

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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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i've gone down the refurbishing part myself

1. old car dont have to change new parts for non-essential parts because you wont know down the road when you feel itchy to sell it

2. to reduce costs, buy all the parts from spare parts shop (most of them around Segambut area near to Jln Ipoh), some from Japan chop shop, bring to workshop to ask them change everything.
- workshop might charge you quite a hefty sum for workmanship, but you'll definitely save on the parts because workshop they usually top up 30% or more on the spare parts. some parts which is not frequently change they might charge 50% more

3. i roughly list parts out + treatment (you may study them)

4. go see your service manual or receipts and see which have you done and which have not been replaced lately


cost wise might be RM6-8k, not so sure. after this your old car will feel like NEW.


parts to change/replace
spare parts shop
1. belts
2. lower arm + stabilizer bush
3. suspension front(+ absorber mounting) and back
4. spark plugs
5. engine oil + air filter + oil filter + fuel filter + cabin AC filter (OEM, original is very exp)
6. front lamp bulbs + new fog lamp (OEM, original is very exp)
7. thermostat
8. timing belt
9. gearbox oil
10. radiator motor (if you havent change before)
11. engine mounting
12. wipers
13. brake pads + rotors (if they are in bad shape)
14. door panel clips (plastic piece that lock your door plastic panel to metal door frame, order from Lazada)
15. door rubber (probably rm50 per door)


chop shop (tell them your car model, engine type, like yours is Toyota Passo copy)
1. AC compressor
2. starter
3. alternator



Treatment or other stuff
1. liqui moly 3-in-1 treatment (intake, fuel cleaning, engine flush) + ask mechanic to clean throttle body

2. if you purchase front windscreen insurance, just find shop to claim new ones for you

3. tint, can get security tint from Hamel about RM 900+, dont need to spend more on branded ones like 3M (do step no.2 before doing no.3)

4. change radiator water (dont have to flush unless it looks like laksa soup)

5. do soundproofing for doors, together with your sound system upgrade. At the same time, ask them to replace all the door panel clips which you bought earlier. soundproof spare tyre compartment as well.

6. do deep clean cushion cleaning for fabric type

7. touch up some paints, front + back bumper sure got scratches, respray bumpers

8. spray some rubber protection chemicals on all rubber parts



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post Dec 21 2019, 09:32 AM

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Refurbish is more cheaper than buying new car, if buy new car using loan got interest to pay some more.
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post Dec 21 2019, 09:34 AM

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go for new 1, better safety & features
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post Dec 21 2019, 09:41 AM

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If you are able to, it is better to go for a newer model particularly for the safety features.. life is precious
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post Dec 21 2019, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 21 2019, 09:29 AM)
i've gone down the refurbishing part myself

1. old car dont have to change new parts for non-essential parts because you wont know down the road when you feel itchy to sell it

2. to reduce costs, buy all the parts from spare parts shop (most of them around Segambut area near to Jln Ipoh), some from Japan chop shop, bring to workshop to ask them change everything.
- workshop might charge you quite a hefty sum for workmanship, but you'll definitely save on the parts because workshop they usually top up 30% or more on the spare parts. some parts which is not frequently change they might charge 50% more

3. i roughly list parts out + treatment (you may study them)

4. go see your service manual or receipts and see which have you done and which have not been replaced lately
cost wise might be RM6-8k, not so sure. after this your old car will feel like NEW.
parts to change/replace
spare parts shop
1. belts
2. lower arm + stabilizer bush
3. suspension front(+ absorber mounting) and back
4. spark plugs
5. engine oil + air filter + oil filter + fuel filter + cabin AC filter (OEM, original is very exp)
6. front lamp bulbs + new fog lamp (OEM, original is very exp)
7. thermostat
8. timing belt
9. gearbox oil
10. radiator motor (if you havent change before)
11. engine mounting
12. wipers
13. brake pads + rotors (if they are in bad shape)
14. door panel clips (plastic piece that lock your door plastic panel to metal door frame, order from Lazada)
15. door rubber (probably rm50 per door)
chop shop (tell them your car model, engine type, like yours is Toyota Passo copy)
1. AC compressor
2. starter
3. alternator
Treatment or other stuff
1. liqui moly 3-in-1 treatment (intake, fuel cleaning, engine flush) + ask mechanic to clean throttle body

2. if you purchase front windscreen insurance, just find shop to claim new ones for you

3. tint, can get security tint from Hamel about RM 900+, dont need to spend more on branded ones like 3M (do step no.2 before doing no.3)

4. change radiator water (dont have to flush unless it looks like laksa soup)

5. do soundproofing for doors, together with your sound system upgrade. At the same time, ask them to replace all the door panel clips which you bought earlier. soundproof spare tyre compartment as well.

6. do deep clean cushion cleaning for fabric type

7. touch up some paints, front + back bumper sure got scratches, respray bumpers

8. spray some rubber protection chemicals on all rubber parts
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Myvi door becomes difficult to close after changing the door rubber. any idea why?

or maybe just the design is flawed? even before change the door rubber, it doesn't close effortlessly compared to newer cars.

Mine is the 2008 myvi.

*Already close to 1 year change

This post has been edited by Archemedia: Dec 21 2019, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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Do you drive the car often?
Do you travel long distance on a weekly basis?

If yes to both,
I'd recommend getting the new car.

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Here's my arguement,

Although many forummer's here advised you to repair and maintain the car because it is a smart financial decision to you (you save money).

However many did not take into account the following criteria,

1. (Assuming) This Myvi is your Main car.
2. Daily driving comfort and Peace of Mind (stress/comfort related conditions while driving the car everyday)

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To which, a new car will be able to improve your overall day-to-day happiness.

Why?

The new Myvi won't require constant maintenance (breakdowns, part replacement)

- I'm speaking this from experience as I used to own a Proton Aeroback for 9 years; it was my main daily driver; I got fed up constantly maintaining the car; I frequently replace major parts, but smaller issues will always pop up on a weekly basis.
- These small issues hinders my work performance, as it caused me to be late for work/meetings.
- I carpool with my friends/family/colleague frequently on lunch/dinner/outings; and I felt that the car made everyone felt tiresome at the end of each ride.
- The car is uncomfortable and can be quite tiresome for me on long journeys and traffic jams.

However, the Proton Aeroback was my only car back then and I had to make a quick decision to replace it.

And it was a good move for me as I enjoyed driving to and back from work; I won't have to stress/tired from driving home every night after a long/hard day at work; I feel happier, compared to getting into a rattly car that shakes and loose all the way home.

I won't have to worry about going to work/meetings as I know full well that my car will run reliably.

You can say getting a new car is a means of upgrading your overall lifestyle. And I believe it will improve your quality of life tremendously (as it did for me).

Thus, you can consider selling off the Myvi, use the amount sold as downpayment for a newer car; and whatever money you've saved (RM5,000 to RM10,000) is able to sustain your monthly repayment of the car for 1-2 years.


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That's my advice la.

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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Dec 21 2019, 11:51 AM)
Myvi door becomes difficult to close after changing the door rubber. any idea why?

or maybe just the design is flawed? even before change the door rubber, it doesn't close effortlessly compared to newer cars.

Mine is the 2008 myvi.

*Already close to 1 year change
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Ask body shop ppl do some alignment on the hinge.
That side got accident before ?
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post Dec 21 2019, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 21 2019, 12:25 PM)
Ask body shop ppl do some alignment on the hinge.
That side got accident before ?
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No accident...

The rubber seem to be preventing door from shutting unless i put some level of force to close the door

Paint shop can fix this? I feel like it is a petty thing to ask shop to do, because idk what the car feels like when it was brand new. I bought 2ndhand
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Dec 21 2019, 12:39 PM)
No accident...

The rubber seem to be preventing door from shutting unless i put some level of force to close the door

Paint shop can fix this? I feel like it is a petty thing to ask shop to do, because idk what the car feels like when it was brand new. I bought 2ndhand
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Either the car door striker plate misalligned or rosak. Just loosen the screw, shut the door few times then kasi ketat again
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Dec 21 2019, 12:42 PM)
Either the car door striker plate misalligned or rosak. Just loosen the screw, shut the door few times then kasi ketat again
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Rubber is obstructing and leaving quite some gap, i dont think the latch reached the striker plate even hmm.gif
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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Dec 21 2019, 12:24 PM)
Do you drive the car often?
Do you travel long distance on a weekly basis?

If yes to both,
I'd recommend getting the new car.

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Here's my arguement,

Although many forummer's here advised you to repair and maintain the car because it is a smart financial decision to you (you save money).

However many did not take into account the following criteria,

1. (Assuming) This Myvi is your Main car.
2. Daily driving comfort and Peace of Mind (stress/comfort related conditions while driving the car everyday)

----

To which, a new car will be able to improve your overall day-to-day happiness.

Why?

The new Myvi won't require constant maintenance (breakdowns, part replacement)

- I'm speaking this from experience as I used to own a Proton Aeroback for 9 years; it was my main daily driver; I got fed up constantly maintaining the car; I frequently replace major parts, but smaller issues will always pop up on a weekly basis.
- These small issues hinders my work performance, as it caused me to be late for work/meetings.
- I carpool with my friends/family/colleague frequently on lunch/dinner/outings; and I felt that the car made everyone felt tiresome at the end of each ride.
- The car is uncomfortable and can be quite tiresome for me on long journeys and traffic jams.

However, the Proton Aeroback was my only car back then and I had to make a quick decision to replace it.

And it was a good move for me as I enjoyed driving to and back from work; I won't have to stress/tired from driving home every night after a long/hard day at work; I feel happier, compared to getting into a rattly car that shakes and loose all the way home.

I won't have to worry about going to work/meetings as I know full well that my car will run reliably.

You can say getting a new car is a means of upgrading your overall lifestyle. And I believe it will improve your quality of life tremendously (as it did for me).

Thus, you can consider selling off the Myvi, use the amount sold as downpayment for a newer car; and whatever money you've saved (RM5,000 to RM10,000) is able to sustain your monthly repayment of the car for 1-2 years.


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That's my advice la.
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That's why if wanna do refurbish must do all at one shot, can't do part by part because the parts fail as they reach end life d.

I really don't see the point of buying new myvi to replace old ones. Unless of course upgrade to C segment then get the feel of upgrade
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 21 2019, 01:57 PM)
That's why if wanna do refurbish must do all at one shot, can't do part by part because the parts fail as they reach end life d.

I really don't see the point of buying new myvi to replace old ones. Unless of course upgrade to C segment then get the feel of upgrade
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Yeah, you got a point there. Do it all and do it right on 1 go; you'll save on money; but driving a refurbished car won't be as comfortable as driving a new car.

And that's if you have another spare car on hand; I'm assuming TS only has the old Myvi as his daily driver.

A refurbished car can't guarantee that some smaller issues won't pop up in the future.

Other issues such as worn out interior parts, the rattles and squeak would make the driving experience more tiresome on a daily basis.

Lets not forget that newer cars is much safer on the road.

These are the things that a newer car would be better than a refurbished one..

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If you want to save some money, is able to put in the time and effort to repair/refurbish the interior of the car, and don't mind the lack of safety features and overall noise/comfort > Repair the old Myvi.

If not > New Car.
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If you feel no more power to drive, better to change.
If you spray or make interior or exterior nicer, at the end no power or comfort to drive, you won’t have mood to drive..

I just sold 13years old 1st gen Myvi... have done lot of interior/exterior customisations and only use it for 2 years then sold off. At the end still not happy/satisfied.

I suggest go for new Myvi or 2nd vios or altis or city
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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Dec 21 2019, 02:20 PM)
Yeah, you got a point there. Do it all and do it right on 1 go; you'll save on money; but driving a refurbished car won't be as comfortable as driving a new car.

And that's if you have another spare car on hand; I'm assuming TS only has the old Myvi as his daily driver.

A refurbished car can't guarantee that some smaller issues won't pop up in the future.

Other issues such as worn out interior parts, the rattles and squeak would make the driving experience more tiresome on a daily basis.

Lets not forget that newer cars is much safer on the road.

These are the things that a newer car would be better than a refurbished one..

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If you want to save some money, is able to put in the time and effort to repair/refurbish the interior of the car, and don't mind the lack of safety features and overall noise/comfort > Repair the old Myvi.

If not > New Car.
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if you have changed all expired parts then it may perform well.

like subframe bushings that holds the engine and whole steering construction and wheels together.
my brother's nissan also swing excessively(unstable after bumps or corners + kruk kruk sound) because that bush rubber got busted (common problems with nissan car)

of course refurbish a Aeroback wont bring up the NVH that sort.
so it comes back to the original question.

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like this car above, my brother is driving one, only like 7years old. not much problems.
common problems is subframe bush not long lasting. changed it for 660, the car corners sharply now.
Being a B-segment last time maybe 85k, now used ones about 25k only. it shares plenty of parts with other nissan models so there are plenty of chop up parts.

if buy this just spare extra 7k or so, change tints, spark plugs, absorbers, filters, a lot of things and the car will be good to go for next 6years or so.
even if gearbox kong can be replaced for 1,500.

Buy car is essentially burning cash, either burn cash via depreciation or buy used and learn how to maintain yourself.

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QUOTE(notmyself @ Dec 21 2019, 02:26 PM)
If you feel no more power to drive, better to change.
If you spray or make interior or exterior nicer, at the end no power or comfort to drive, you won’t have mood to drive..

I just sold 13years old 1st gen Myvi... have done lot of interior/exterior customisations and only use it for 2 years then sold off. At the end still not happy/satisfied.

I suggest go for new Myvi or 2nd vios or altis or city
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so you've walked down to this path of "Restore to its former glory "
but, you realized that you're actually " Looking for an upgrade " laugh.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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Bad suspension = change all 4 absorbers together with the absorber link (rm1.2k)
Bad control = change better tires, i recommend hankook v12 evo 2 (rm1k)
Bad sound system = change headunit, change speakers (take kenwood or pioneer brand (rm1k). I redo mine, 1 headunit and 4 speakers all new costs me around rm1k.
Old tint = redo tint. Get good ones (rm1k)
Bad design n bad power = u will get tje same thing with new myvi....

So total u need only 4.5k max.

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QUOTE(dragonspirit @ Dec 20 2019, 11:59 AM)
No need refurbish, just transplant half cut K3vet (>RM5k) in, will be better and much faster than new myvi
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Yup , agree..
Me also having a kancil at 24 year old..
But after convert to turbo engine Automatik Transmission,
The car feel alive ...
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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Dude, from a financial perspective, don't spend too much on cars. It's a depreciating assets that doesn't bring you additional wealth. I would advise to refurbish your old car. After all its your own car. If you still wanna get something different then go for second hand. Get a reliable mechanic to check the car and you're good to go.

Cars depreciate the most the first two years+

With the money you save, you can put into savings or investment man.
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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I will not trade my old Myvi for anything. Even tho now life is a lot better, I held off my purchase for VW Vento or even the GTI for 3 years now simply because the costs are just not justified. I got my manual 1.5 strictly for its power and did some minor adjustments to make handling safer/better, otherwise its a stock car with premium maintenance if thats what to say. I costs a fraction to maintain like 30% vs. any other car in the 50-90K range. Now its 7 years old and the drivetrain is excellent with matching efficiency when it was new.

Some major replacements will cost a few K as it reaches 10 years - but chances are it will cost much less than the value of buying a new myvi. The only reason to upgrade is for quality of life, so another myvi is simply not justified.

Myvi feels like a tin milo all around (new one also la, just less tin a bit nia - and more things to service kek), but I'd take that 2-5k maintenance savings every year for that while keeping the fun once in a while.

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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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If you have been maintaining your car (not bawah pokok maintenance type), then probably nothing much to repair.

Myvi has always been about cheap and reliable (proper maintenance) but you would not get the best feeling and handling from it especially for an old car.
There are things that cannot be fixed such as rattling sound due to worn out dashboard coupling and fitting.
Even with a proper repair - you only get back the reliability for a car but you will not get back the comfort and feeling of a new car.
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try look at pros & cons on both options:

new myvi

pro
look good, feel good
less initial maintenance cost
major part cover under warranty
monies from old myvi can be use for deposit i.e lower starting cost
can opt for better class car..i.e city or vios or saga or any MPV or SUV

cons.
monthly payment
higher insurance premium



old myvi

pro
no monthly commitment i.e more cash in hand to be used for repair and maintenance

cons.
Lump sump cost for repair will need some immediate cash
stuck with old car (hey it's myvi people dont care about it's age so long it can be driven)

The conclusion
it's depend on your financial condition and your own objectives
if only to move from A to B then just stick to old and upgrade when the situation is needed. i.e having a kid and needed a bigger car etc etc..
if u still young save the cash and plan for future..future is not just 5-years ahead with fancy car but beyond that
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first get a good ice. this will distract you from the condition of the car
no need much. just get android + speaker enough

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1st gen myvi problematic one. the aircond is never ending problem. changed compressor twice at RM700, still like shit. after that replace the whole aircond system for RM3k+. better but still not satisfactory in my opinion. not to mentioned NVH is much worst compare to the new myvi. sold that car after fix this fix that and get back only RM7.5k (2019 Sxi model). bought a new full spec myvi, never been so satisfied with it. hassle free, tint is also provided, just drive and go.
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QUOTE(Newsray @ Dec 23 2019, 02:37 PM)
If you have been maintaining your car (not bawah pokok maintenance type), then probably nothing much to repair.

Myvi has always been about cheap and reliable (proper maintenance) but you would not get the best feeling and handling from it especially for an old car.
There are things that cannot be fixed such as rattling sound due to worn out dashboard coupling and fitting.
Even with a proper repair - you only get back the reliability for a car but you will not get back the comfort and feeling of a new car.
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It's possible to achieve new car feeling but need to change lots of stuff and service particular parts.

Of course need to do some research on your own.

On my D segment I noticed how they made no squeaking sound. Every single plastic piece has a piece of thin fabric tape attached to the edges.
No matter how the car flex, the fabric prevents the plastic in contact to rub against each other. (Thus no sound)

Most of our local car uses cheapo plastic clips that becomes brittle after couple of years under our hot sun.
Everything from bumpers, door handles, engine compartment all use tiny plastic clips to hold things together



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QUOTE(Dezs @ Dec 23 2019, 10:57 AM)
I will not trade my old Myvi for anything. Even tho now life is a lot better, I held off my purchase for VW Vento or even the GTI for 3 years now simply because the costs are just not justified. I got my manual 1.5 strictly for its power and did some minor adjustments to make handling safer/better, otherwise its a stock car with premium maintenance if thats what to say. I costs a fraction to maintain like 30% vs. any other car in the 50-90K range. Now its 7 years old and the drivetrain is excellent with matching efficiency when it was new.

Some major replacements will cost a few K as it reaches 10 years - but chances are it will cost much less than the value of buying a new myvi. The only reason to upgrade is for quality of life, so another myvi is simply not justified.

Myvi feels like a tin milo all around (new one also la, just less tin a bit nia - and more things to service kek), but I'd take that 2-5k maintenance savings every year for that while keeping the fun once in a while.
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All perodua is Milo tin. I also own a Milo tin kenari so I know.
From the metal sheets to safety features perodua is the worse type.

All of our small mini cars are actually in the "kei car" category that can't be exported to European countries due to safety concerns.
They are driven at 70kmh max even on Japanese highways and used for town commute only.

Like this myvi 1.5 sure got ppl lenjan until 160kmh LOL.

I know myvi is Malaysia best selling car but in terms of safety it's bad
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 23 2019, 10:25 PM)
All perodua is Milo tin. I also own a Milo tin kenari so I know.
From the metal sheets to safety features perodua is the worse type.

All of our small mini cars are actually in the "kei car" category that can't be exported to European countries due to safety concerns.
They are driven at 70kmh max even on Japanese highways and used for town commute only.

Like this myvi 1.5 sure got ppl lenjan until 160kmh LOL.

I know myvi is Malaysia best selling car but in terms of safety it's bad
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Well to handle safely, it does mean do not lenjan 160kmh la topkek.. The most basic thing is to get better wheels, so never skimp on that - my wheels cost a bomb but much better handling. Brakes to match better traction - and maybe can add anti roll, but i dun like physically attaching stuff so I leave it at that. Beyond 140 kph, Maibi needs careful handling. But well, with experience and custom parts -> allows for control up to 170kph - Tried it for like 10 secs once on my stress test tongue.gif. Stock beyond 140 kph is suicide. Cant brake well, cant maneuver well, and the frame aint gonna protect anything at that speed. I dunno what those 200kph potatoes were doing or how long they had to floor it to arrive there.

Its all about how well you know your car + handling + awareness. I'd happily smoke down BMWs everyday on straight roads - but sekali datang curve kuai2 terus la haha.. that power/weight ratio is insane - as long as u maintain discipline you can enjoy the power within very safe speeds. Maibi jgn lah lebuhraya rempit.... Naik bukit rempit...aaaaaaa baru machiam.

On side note - Since Maibi, the frame strength went up a notch from the con lan firm penyek kancil/kenari/kelisa era. Ive seen the 60kph head on and side impact pass (and I kena friggin pedal to metal aunty SUV on my ass once, luckily only moderate speed impact - but im impressed for tin milo level la).. Cukup makan la..
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Am using Myvi, i would choose new myvi
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I got 1st Gen & 2nd Gen Myvi and my GF bought 3rd Gen

1st Gen 2007 - 200k mileage, facing the overheating issue. Changed engine mounting, overhauled the engine once due to water flowed into the engine.
2nd Gen 2011 - 181k mileage, oil seal problem, gear clutch burnt. Performance starts to deteriorate due to wear and tear.
3rd Gen 2018 - 10k mileage, so far so good, new car...

My advice is better to get yourself a new car due to safety issue and poor metal quality from 1st Gen Myvi. Save a few thousand and risk your life not worth la. The depreciation for Myvi is about MYR4k to 5k per year which is much cheaper compared to Vios or City.

I also planned to upgrade new car but no money yet. Hopefully, my 2nd Gen Myvi can last till 200k (my family using first Gen Myvi).

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Better safety features is a good reason to change to new car.
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TS managed to decide whether to refurbish your current ride or get a new Myvi?
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10 years is a lot of advancement even with local brands.

Personally I feel that its useless to refurb a car unless you took good care of it from day1. Even so, it still has to be something worthy of refurb and myvi is definitely not in my list unless you really cant afford a better car. It all boils down to how much you hate your current car versus how stingy are you with money.

I would say the current myvi is light years better than the old myvi in terms of safety and nvh at the very least. However there is one thing you need to take notice with new myvi. Fuel pump is failing left and right for no known reason. Sister car just had one failure, less than a year. Replacement took ages as they didnt have the gasket that should be changed along with the fuel pump.
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What makes you think upgrading from 10yo Myvi to latest Myvi will give you comfort? It is the same segment and same design after all. The NVH won't magically solve by getting new Myvi.

It's like upgrading from Saga BLM to latest Saga. It's same car, just slight improvement over the 10 year period.
Don't believe me? Try driving 10yo Honda City IDSI. You'll know the difference.
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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If you can afford the new one, supporting the 7-9year loan ... I don't see why not, unless your aim is to save money; and bruh, having the latest MYVI is in no way good on your pockets.

accounting the fact you don't have to service a loan after spending close to 5 figure refurbishing the old myvi, does not guarantee it'll run perfectly for another 10 more years to come.

I gave up my 21yo Wira due to numerous problems and spending most of my days off in the workshop, not to mention it's drinking petrol like a thirsty cow.

Best write down a list of the pros and cons of both cars and compare them yourself, it'll give you a clearer picture.

... but since you're opening a thread about this, we all know where you're leaning towards.
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Buy new myvi. Top up abit. Get vios or honda. Bangsa H. Yolo.
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Its very clear cut answer. If you want to save the money for some other things like house, investments, loan repayments, then using some money to make the car feel new is definitely a no brainer.

If you are complaining about the car in general, then sell it. No amount of money you spend on this old car is going to change anything if it involves your heart & mindset. And it could go as far as being looked down by your peers on wealth outlook or your dissatisfaction that the car is not maintenance free. Nothing and no one can change that for you. No one has answers for that.

I have a same 10 year old Myvi 1.3 Ezi. It does not cost a lot to make the car feel new. Seriously. If you keep looking at premium replacement parts, then it feels not worth it. Like tires. A piece of Silvertsones are RM 99 a piece. You can pay top dollar Continental for RM250 a piece. I'm not gonna debate about all that safety 4 contact patch shit as an excuse. If you're dumb behind the wheel, you deserve to die.




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lol, after so many advises and TS seems MIA already

well once my ex colleague told me this and i definitely agree with it
What car is the best to drive? a car that doesn't need to pay for its loan laugh.gif

jokes aside, other forummers already pointed out most key points already, i myself driving a 9 years old 1.5 lagi best myvi, I took good care of it, so i know its condition and i will say myvi is a car that worth to refurbish, PROVIDED you are the one that maintain it all the time.

Buying a new car of same segment? I would say no, i myself looking for an upgrade, but after calculating the repayment and what not, i decided to put it on hold. Mind you, the upgrades that i am looking at are areas like better stability on highway, better safety, better NVH, better power. So almost no car in Seg B can fulfill these conditions and i had to look at Seg C minimum.

edit : I also finally lowered my car after so long, changed to 15 inch new myvi rim for better stability, and i did feel excited about it and i think i will be able to stick with my car for another few more years after those upgrades.

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if you value safety, ditch the myvi and get a better car

if not, just refurbish old one
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Refurbish old car. It should give u another 5+ years. In the meantime save up some cash.
When the time comes, buy a new car with the money u saved. Put down a bigger down-payment to reduce interest payments.

Your old car can use as 2nd car.

The idea that new car has better safety features etc is just placebo effect and giving yourself excuse to buy new car.
It depends how u drive. If u drive recklessly, what car u drive also cannot save u. Ppl also die in Ferraris, BMWs, Volvos etc.
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Upgrade from Myvi to another Myvi is a serious facepalm.
Reading alot from the replies really shows that Malaysian is all about that "debt" life.

Just set a budget of 3.5 to 5k and restore as much as possible, use it for 3.5 to 5 more years.

Alot can happen in 3 to 5 years, you might even get promoted which allows you to buy better car like Honda City for example.
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Dont continously burden yourself with debt
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Here my case with used car :
Car price : 24k
1. Fuel Injector ecu die : rm 700 (3 week after use fuu)
2. Abs brake pump fail : rm 7k + almost accident due to no brake.

Conclusion: If you have money go ahead new car is the way for reliability , poor fag like me just buy used car.
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It's stupid when you change an old car to a new car of the same segment. Judging from what your parents say, I don't think your salary is high. Only buy a new car if you have spare money and isn't leeching on your parents. Don't buy if you are leeching off your parents for meals.

Like some forumers said, just equip proper knowledge and your car is good to go.
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I had a myvi 2012. Almost 10 years now. Being quoted to change all absorbers , engine mounting, stabilizer bushes , rear bearings, stabilizer links. Absorber mounting, lower arms.. also all 4 tyres (dated 2018)

Car so far no major problem, only changed compressor set (ori denso + some air cond parts rm2k++) in 6th year.

Is it worth it? I didn’t know the pricing for above… I got another civic FC so this car after 2019 not really use much.. can say that a spare car with 20-30km per week usage now. Of course sometimes 100-150km as I purposely drive it to work.
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QUOTE(raikaevil @ Dec 20 2019, 11:05 AM)
Lately I been thinking to buy a new car, but my parents advised me to use back the old car to save money. The problem is that old car everything just feel sucks, no power bad suspension, bad design, bad control, bad sound system, and old tint. The current car I'm using is an 10 years old 1st gen myvi. I'm not sure should I invest my money to refurbish the car, *hopefully the can get back to at least 7/10 condition. To fix all those problem I mentioned, I think probably need at least 5 to 10k I guess. So in my opinion, buying a new might just save the hassle no worry about other thing. What do you guys think?

Refurbish the old car or Buy a new car?

Will the old car become nice to drive and use if I refurbish it?
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Buy new
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 21 2019, 09:29 AM)
i've gone down the refurbishing part myself

5. engine oil + air filter + oil filter + fuel filter + cabin AC filter (OEM, original is very exp)

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I asked my mechanic about changing myvi fuel filter, he say quite hassle job, as it comes together with the fuel pump? Som more need to open up the fuel tank area,.... So lots if work.. Total cost like 400-500 iirc
Is that true?

Unlike proton wira, just remove and change easily

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Hi everyone, I am really glad I came across this topic, and I would sincerely appreciate some advice from all the sifus here regarding my old Myvi.

This car holds a lot of sentimental value for me. My mother bought it back in 2006 and later passed it to me in 2008—along with the responsibility of continuing the loan repayment. I’ve been driving it ever since, but due to work commitments, I had to stop using it in 2024. Since then, I haven’t been able to maintain it, and now that I’m back in KL, I’m hoping to restore it for daily use.

Unfortunately, the car has suffered quite a bit from being parked under a tree for almost a year. The paint is in terrible condition due to bird droppings, and to make things worse, there was an ant nest nearby—I’m not sure if they’ve made their way into the car. The last time I checked, the car wouldn’t start, and the interior has developed a strong, damp smell.

I want to refurbish the car completely, but I’m not very familiar with the technical details of car restoration, and with my current schedule, I would appreciate some guidance from those with experience. My key questions are:

How much estimate would a full refurbishment cost?
I am looking at repainting the entire car, replacing the interior seats, upgrading the infotainment system, changing the steering wheel, car battery, absorbers, exhaust system, spark plugs—pretty much everything that needs fixing. If the engine turns out to be in bad condition, is it possible to replace it entirely? And if so, what kind of cost should I expect?

Where can I find a reliable workshop in Seri Kembangan that can handle everything?
I would prefer to go to one place that can manage all the necessary work instead of running around to different workshops. I’m looking for a fair price with good workmanship, as I want to avoid unnecessary markups or low-quality repairs. Any trusted recommendations?

Long-term restoration and maintenance
This car is very special to me—it’s the only gift I have from my mother. If possible, I’d like to keep and maintain it for as long as I can. Given its age, what would be the best way to ensure it remains roadworthy in the long run?

I would truly appreciate any advice, suggestions, or recommendations from those who have experience with car restorations. Thank you in advance for your help!
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QUOTE(jfoxmy @ Mar 9 2025, 11:55 PM)
How much estimate would a full refurbishment cost?
I am looking at repainting the entire car, replacing the interior seats, upgrading the infotainment system, changing the steering wheel, car battery, absorbers, exhaust system, spark plugs—pretty much everything that needs fixing. If the engine turns out to be in bad condition, is it possible to replace it entirely? And if so, what kind of cost should I expect?
If a car been parked for long time, you want to start but car wouldn't start - usually it's the car battery that got drained out. Change the battery that's a start.

Interior smell could be due to growing mold.

If you really want to proceed for the vehicle, be prepared to foot up at least 2k I would say for upkeeping the vehicle based from your info.

I'm not an expert but based on my recent quotations/purchase, these are the estimates for my 2011 Toyota Altis, these are only for references, for your car might be a little cheaper and also can get cheaper price other than going through official SC:
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post Mar 10 2025, 04:19 AM

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If the cost of refurbish very high might as well getting axia e rahmah brand new 💯🚀🔥
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post Mar 10 2025, 08:04 AM

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wow necro-ed tered.

if you have the budget and always use the car for daily office, high mileage daily & bring family around (main car), just sell it off while it still have some resale value and change to a new car. can't justify the cost for peace of mind .

if its just a beater / 2nd car to go pasar/ masjid /LRT /send kid school/office <10km daily , just refurb and continue use it . Its a myvi, parts are everywhere.
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Plus the maintenance of the old car very high and would be endless of repairing here and there 🚙🚗🤔🔥

 

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