I thought that it would show the SCNA error instead of that error message? Like the Astro decoder won’t be able to receive satellite signal from astro ?

My friend will be going to the ABU DBS Conference 2020 at Hotel Istana tomorrow, and he got the chance to ask lots of questions from the actual professional persons from the industry there.


And... Those technical persons from MYTV Broadcasting is having a talk too...


If you have questions that the usual customer service agents can't answer, do post your questions here, and I'll see what my friend can help
Of course, don't ask questions like "Why so many CJ Wow Shop...." or "why MYTV channels so boring?" or "when will upgrade all channels to HD?".....

For Astro viewers, yes, SCNA message will appear to Astro DTH customers. I don't think Astro IPTV viewers under IP mode are affected, especially if it's an in-house channels from Astro.

The message (as attached from photo above) appears when other satellites are facing solar outage, and the TV channels from that particular affected satellite(s) are being received from various pay TV operators, including Astro, are unable to get any signal.

For me just one question: why the inconsistent video quality can't be improve I mean, when will they use HEVC on current video bitrates on all channels tho.

🤔, DVB-I, sounds new

A standard for IPTV now ?

This post has been edited by yongtjunkit: Mar 4 2020, 11:05 PM

Oh, so it’s possible that Astro IPTV, Astro go and cloud recording to not function properly during this time if the channel is receiving satellite dish( In house channel definitely not affected on IPTV, ultra box with the play from start function)

As for the bitrate use, it's probably something gonna do with their business model.
And if they use HEVC, then every Malaysian DTT viewers are forced to change to a HEVC supported digital TV box/tuner to watch the HEVC channel.
MYTV can earn money from the sale of H.265 HEVC supported STBs from MYTV Broadcasting, but those viewers are not gonna be happy cuz millions of STBs needs to be replaced.

Yes, it's just released and announced at the end of 2019. If you wonder what is DVB-I, it's basically like:
Whatever you know about DVB-S/S2, DVB-T/T2 and DVB-C (Malaysia don't use that), like how reliable, responsive and its compatibility, soon it can be delivered via Internet platform.
Which also means, that kind of seamless experience will be so similar that the user don't even need to care if the content is received via satellite or terrestrial or internet, cuz it feels just the same.
Like those EPG, interactive services (including HbbTV), video/audio quality, it can be the same. Thanks to the technology of Multicast, where you can get the same similar user experience across different platforms (TV, STB, or your devices). Basically means, it can save lots of technical trouble for the broadcasters and content providers.

This post has been edited by joshhd: Mar 4 2020, 11:21 PM

This solar outage, only satellite TV services from Astro are affected. So if you're using Astro PVR box to record your programmes via satellite during solar outage, then it is expected to have disruption as the signal would be disrupted during recording. Solution? Watch your shows on VOD, or record again the same episode/show on another air time.

Astro IPTV, Astro Go and cloud recording are Internet based, so it's not related also...
And since cloud recording process is done on Astro's server side, if there's any "recording fail" issue, then that's got to be Astro's fault already, not yours.

The T2/S2 combo decoder one does have HEVC support tho. And it's quite popular for a certain reason.

This post has been edited by Qash-M: Mar 4 2020, 11:40 PM

Only a few tens of thousands of users are using S2/T2 box.
But there are millions of users using T2-only box, and for MYTV, Botato and Greenpacket brands, it is DVB-T2 only and up to H.264 only.

Just imagine how disaster would it be if MYTV change all channels to HEVC video codec, like right now, or even within this year.
Things are not as simple as changing some settings with just a few mouse clicks.

What about IDTV? And that MYTV box is probably expensive

So it’s basically it’s like a standard for IPTV and less complicated unlike asteruk IPTV setup with vlans making it hard for user to swap the router

Even unifi tv already moved out of the vlan system with the latest plus box

This post has been edited by yongtjunkit: Mar 5 2020, 08:49 AM

But unifi failed to maintain the same quality and features as the VLAN system and are still providing the VLAN-based STB for 100Mbps plan.

🤔, 1st time hearing this, can share the issue that is on going with this box?

One advantage I heard is ability to use on any network, like maxis fiber, time fiber

Lower bitrate stream compared to VLAN stream.
Might buffer/lag unlike multicast VLAN stream.
Doesn't have channel numbers and requires lots of scrolling to switch channels.
Doesn't have tabulated EPG like other usual STBs.
Some channels lack subtitles.
Stream is probably many seconds delayed compared to VLAN stream due to buffering.
*some of this info are from posts on this forum and not my own judgement.

It's just a streaming app running on an Android TV powered box. It's not real IPTV STB kind of experience. TM should just let people use the app from PlayStore on any Android TV powered TV instead of forcing the plus box which cannot even run Netflix. My TV can run the app used by the plus box but it cannot be used due to device check put in by TM.

This post has been edited by AV_2018: Mar 5 2020, 01:10 PM

Well, I guess this is where DVB-I comes into play?

Astro IPTV implementation is probably worse than this, For live TV feed it uses a dedicated Vlan and for VOD it uses the Internet Vlan which makes it hard/impossible to replace the router with a third party one at least with the Unifi TV box in general, can support 3rd party router(unifi profile on Asus router includes IPTV VLAN)?

This post has been edited by yongtjunkit: Mar 5 2020, 01:37 PM

Yes and not forgetting government spending to distribute decoders for the low income group. All that will go down the drain if MYTV now change to HEVC.

For some technical reason, the terrestrial transmissions remained on MPEG-4/H.264 only, despite the newer T2 boxes from MYTV and MYTV T2/S2 combo decoder comes with HEVC support. Some newer DVB-T2 TV models would support HEVC without hassle, as some countries (Netherlands, Germany, Czech Republic) already have such transmissions. MYTV would have used HEVC at start if they really want to use that. If MYTV switches transmission mode to HEVC now, it will render most if not all set top boxes (Earlier MYTV boxes, Botato, Greenpacket, generic set top boxes) and many low end/older DVB-T2 TV sets, branded or not, which only supports H.264 codec, completely useless. You will need to replace/buy lots of working but useless set top boxes already in use and also some TV sets (could be solved by adding a set top box, however some people/households doesn't prefer the usage of a set top box) if MYTV really wanted to move to HEVC, which in turn creates electronic waste. If MYTV really want to start HEVC transmissions now, MYTV would wisely start it on Pay TV services, which is going to be encrypted anyway.

This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Mar 5 2020, 02:06 PM

Ya from what you explained before, astro setup seems too complicated. For Unifi TV, all live tv, VOD, EPG, system updates are on the same VLAN600. Any router that can tag VLAN on WAN port and untag VLAN on a LAN port and just bridge all traffic between them can be used. That means virtually all Asus, TP-link, D-link, Mikrotik, Ubiquiti routers as well as routers with custom firmwares.

There's one problem with that... MYTV Advance STB which supports smart card and access control doesn't have HEVC.