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post Nov 5 2019, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(shaun_kok @ Nov 4 2019, 02:46 PM)
Yes, you may connect your IDTV via RF Out function to get DTT signal, as long the cable is high quality (HDMI/TV Boxes will affect DTT reception). Some of the DTT boxes (in overseas) indeed have RF Out function to convert digital TV into analogue TV signal for video input (like what we saw in some old school Astro decoders). The RF OUT port, at least on the MYTV DVB-T2 box, only provide signal passthrough for existing analogue (no longer exists)/DTT signals. This mean that you can hook up many TV Boxes, provide if these TV boxes have RF OUT and the signal is strong enough and both set top boxes are also connected (DTT signal levels will reduce when you hook up from one box to another). These boxes must be in standby/On mode, otherwise the passthrough won't work.
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I see, so it is usable for my IDTV to use the RF out function to get digital signals? Meaning that one box can be used for two TV right since the signal will pass through.
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post Nov 5 2019, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Hzz @ Nov 5 2019, 08:51 AM)
I see, so it is usable for my IDTV to use the RF out function to get digital signals? Meaning that one box can be used for two TV right since the signal will pass through.
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Yup. Just make sure that the set top box is on when you want to watch TV on IDTV if you connect your TV via RF OUT on the set top box. It won't work if there is no power.
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post Nov 6 2019, 01:57 AM

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Meanwhile, some news update from the upcoming satellite pay TV provider, Sirius TV:

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/Siriusmalaysia.tv/...133868351356193

Brief translation:
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Sirius TV is still awaiting for the set-top-box Type Approval from SIRIM.
This delay was due to the switch of STB use from
H.265 HEVC T2 / S2 / Wifi
to
H.265 HEVC S2 / Wifi

MYTV does not approve to us to sell the STB model with T2 (DVB-T2) function. Hopefully, once it got approved, the STB and satellite dishes will be provided as soon as possible to the trials participants, as well as new signups that have made their payment.
Okay, so MYTV is not happy that the sales of their STB brand is not performing well as they would wanted it to be.

In other words, all viewers to have the "inconvenience" to switch between input sources (e.g. from DTT to HDMI 1, and vice versa) is still way cheaper than allowing/providing all DTT channels onto your platform.
So lesson learnt, don't rely on Sirius TV or any other pay TV providers to provide you the convenience to be able to watch all DTT channels on a single platform, in expense of them needing to pay a lot of money to MYTV or broadcaster.
So just get a DVB-T2 box or TV with DVB-T2 function to receive digital TV channels via UHF antenna...
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post Nov 6 2019, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 6 2019, 01:57 AM)
Meanwhile, some news update from the upcoming satellite pay TV provider, Sirius TV:

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/Siriusmalaysia.tv/...133868351356193

Brief translation:
Okay, so MYTV is not happy that the sales of their STB brand is not performing well as they would wanted it to be.

In other words, all viewers to have the "inconvenience" to switch between input sources (e.g. from DTT to HDMI 1, and vice versa) is still way cheaper than allowing/providing all DTT channels onto your platform.
So lesson learnt, don't rely on Sirius TV or any other pay TV providers to provide you the convenience to be able to watch all DTT channels on a single platform, in expense of them needing to pay a lot of money to MYTV or broadcaster.
So just get a DVB-T2 box or TV with DVB-T2 function to receive digital TV channels via UHF antenna...
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MYTV DVB T2 box is overpriced.... 3rd party MCMC certified box cost half of the mytv dvbt2 box.

I thought that DvB T2 is free for everyone to use(any decoder,TV,etc)?

This post has been edited by yongtjunkit: Nov 6 2019, 08:28 AM
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post Nov 6 2019, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 6 2019, 01:57 AM)
Meanwhile, some news update from the upcoming satellite pay TV provider, Sirius TV:

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/Siriusmalaysia.tv/...133868351356193

Brief translation:
Okay, so MYTV is not happy that the sales of their STB brand is not performing well as they would wanted it to be.

In other words, all viewers to have the "inconvenience" to switch between input sources (e.g. from DTT to HDMI 1, and vice versa) is still way cheaper than allowing/providing all DTT channels onto your platform.
So lesson learnt, don't rely on Sirius TV or any other pay TV providers to provide you the convenience to be able to watch all DTT channels on a single platform, in expense of them needing to pay a lot of money to MYTV or broadcaster.
So just get a DVB-T2 box or TV with DVB-T2 function to receive digital TV channels via UHF antenna...
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Correct me if wrong, are we seeing another monopoly ? Others need MYTV approval ? Not approved 'because' they don't earn enough from lack of sales for own TV box ?
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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Nov 6 2019, 08:25 AM)
MYTV DVB T2 box is overpriced.... 3rd party MCMC certified box cost half of the mytv dvbt2 box.

I thought that DvB T2 is free for everyone to use(any decoder,TV,etc)?
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Nov 6 2019, 09:45 AM)
Correct me if wrong, are we seeing another monopoly ? Others need MYTV approval ? Not approved 'because' they don't earn enough from lack of sales for own TV box ?
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MYTV indeed is a monopoly and single player for Malaysia DTT.

If you ask this to MYTV, their answers would be like:
"Oh, we invested millions to billions to build the DTT infrastructure in Malaysia, and provide Malaysians digital TV broadcasts for free, and viewers just have to use a DVB-T2 box and UHF antenna to receive it.
So when new satellite pay tv players want to have combo tuners with DVB-T2, we have to right to charge them lor... We can't just let them have the DVB-T2 function build in to a satellite pay tv STB just like that to allow viewers to watch DTT channels for free. It's like your "service" depends on our technology to get channels without paying. We invested so much money in infrastructure leh, and it's justifiable for us to charge them. "

Basically, they want to earn some money lor...


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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 6 2019, 12:59 PM)
MYTV indeed is a monopoly and single player for Malaysia DTT.

If you ask this to MYTV, their answers would be like:
"Oh, we invested millions to billions to build the DTT infrastructure in Malaysia, and provide Malaysians digital TV broadcasts for free, and viewers just have to use a DVB-T2 box and UHF antenna to receive it.
So when new satellite pay tv players want to have combo tuners with DVB-T2, we have to right to charge them lor... We can't just let them have the DVB-T2 function build in to a satellite pay tv STB just like that to allow viewers to watch DTT channels for free. It's like your "service" depends on our technology to get channels without paying. We invested so much money in infrastructure leh, and it's justifiable for us to charge them. "

Basically, they want to earn some money lor...
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That's what happens when everything is privatized, and made into for-profit organizations.

The government should reclassify DTT as an essential service, similar to public transportation and utilities.

It is a human right to be kept informed.

Of course this is Malaysia, where money rules everything, so.....
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Speaking of which, is the bitrate counts on all channels relatively unchanged since last month?
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post Nov 8 2019, 06:17 PM

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https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/11/08/lets-...digital-tv-lta/

To be honest, they said some quite a few mistakes especially when it comes to technical and installation stuff...
One of the example, that guy holding the MYTV Advance box,
and said that it can also connect to satellite dish especially in rural areas that is out of DTT coverage.
I was like, hmmmm..... That particular MYTV box is not even the Hybrid S2+T2 model sweat.gif
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 8 2019, 06:17 PM)
https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/11/08/lets-...digital-tv-lta/

To be honest, they said some quite a few mistakes especially when it comes to technical and installation stuff...
One of the example, that guy holding the MYTV Advance box,
and said that it can also connect to satellite dish especially in rural areas that is out of DTT coverage.
I was like, hmmmm..... That particular MYTV box is not even the Hybrid S2+T2 model  sweat.gif
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itulah, that guy terlalu banyak baca Utusan previously and authentically become katak bawah tempurung... sampai terang-terang silap pun tak erti.
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post Nov 8 2019, 11:20 PM

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Btw just to share this episode of Singapore's documentary produced by Mediacorp, that talks about outdoor UHF antennas installed way up high in around Muar, as high as 80 foot (24.3 metres), and an antenna installer further explains the safety risks of doing such dangerous jobs.

Also, a Muar-ian that has been watching Singapore channels since young, is now working in Singapore as a Mediacorp TV programme host.

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*English subtitle available.
Seek between 6:10-9:20 and 11:26-14:58 if you're just interested on the main part about the infamous UHF antennas installed high up in Muar.
From 14:58 onwards until end, it no longer talks about the Singapore TV reception in Muar, so not necessary got to watch entire episode if you're not interested.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 6 2019, 12:59 PM)
MYTV indeed is a monopoly and single player for Malaysia DTT.

If you ask this to MYTV, their answers would be like:
"Oh, we invested millions to billions to build the DTT infrastructure in Malaysia, and provide Malaysians digital TV broadcasts for free, and viewers just have to use a DVB-T2 box and UHF antenna to receive it.
So when new satellite pay tv players want to have combo tuners with DVB-T2, we have to right to charge them lor... We can't just let them have the DVB-T2 function build in to a satellite pay tv STB just like that to allow viewers to watch DTT channels for free. It's like your "service" depends on our technology to get channels without paying. We invested so much money in infrastructure leh, and it's justifiable for us to charge them. "

Basically, they want to earn some money lor...
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Which creates a market for non-MCMC approved third party T2/S2 decoders on Lazada and Shopee.
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post Nov 9 2019, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 8 2019, 11:20 PM)
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Thanks for the programme, watched almost ALL episode. As you know, northern ppl like me is impoosible to watch S'pore Ch.8 live. We are more attached to Thai TV smile.gif which available for decades ago, thanks to their TV signal overspill.

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How can I watch all the usual free-to-air channels on an Android box?
ie. RTM1 & 2, TV3, 8TV...
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post Nov 9 2019, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Nov 9 2019, 06:11 PM)
How can I watch all the usual free-to-air channels on an Android box?
ie. RTM1 & 2, TV3, 8TV...
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You can install the Tonton app and the RTM app. Otherwise can also use browser to watch on RTM website or tonton.com.my
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 6 2019, 12:59 PM)
If you ask this to MYTV, their answers would be like:
"Oh, we invested millions to billions to build the DTT infrastructure in Malaysia, and provide Malaysians digital TV broadcasts for free, and viewers just have to use a DVB-T2 box and UHF antenna to receive it.
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It's not for free, RTM and Media Prima etc have to pay a (large) monthly rental to be transmitted.
The question is whether MyTV have actually met the contract requirements to be paid. Their coverage looks very below target to me.
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Nov 9 2019, 10:47 PM)
It's not for free, RTM and Media Prima etc have to pay a (large) monthly rental to be transmitted.
The question is whether MyTV have actually met the contract requirements to be paid. Their coverage looks very below target to me.
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Well, broadcasters definitely have to pay MYTV for transmitting their channels. What I meant is, viewers can watch it for free without monthly subscription.
And what you meant by "MyTV have actually met the contract requirements to be paid"? This part I don't get it.
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Hi guys, going to buy a new cheap led TV.
What's the benefits of buying digital TV instead of analog TV?
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post Nov 10 2019, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Nov 10 2019, 12:03 AM)
Hi guys, going to buy a new cheap led TV.
What's the benefits of buying digital TV instead of  analog TV?
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There's no new analogue TV out there anymore....
Any new model TVs you buy today, already has digital TV DVB-T2 built-in.

What benefits of digital TV? More channels, clear picture quality, some channels is in Full HD quality, with electronic programme guide (EPG) where you can see the current programme name showing on the channel you're watching. It's basically the features that you get on Astro (if you have) since last time, now you can get it on digital TV, and all these by using TV antenna (UHF) and it's free, no monthly subscription.

Basically, last time you used to know that using TV antenna to receive TV signals are those static that looks "snowy" and "lots of white dots on screen".
That's called analogue TV. Since 1 Nov 2019, analogue broadcast has entirely switched off in Malaysia, hence replaced with digital broadcast.

More info at https://myfreeview.tv/
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 10 2019, 12:14 AM)
There's no new analogue TV out there anymore....
Any new model TVs you buy today, already has digital TV DVB-T2 built-in.

What benefits of digital TV? More channels, clear picture quality, some channels is in Full HD quality, with electronic programme guide (EPG) where you can see the current programme name showing on the channel you're watching. It's basically the features that you get on Astro (if you have) since last time, now you can get it on digital TV, and all these by using TV antenna (UHF) and it's free, no monthly subscription.

Basically, last time you used to know that using TV antenna to receive TV signals are those static that looks "snowy" and "lots of white dots on screen".
That's called analogue TV. Since 1 Nov 2019, analogue broadcast has entirely switched off in Malaysia, hence replaced with digital broadcast.

More info at https://myfreeview.tv/
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Noted and.thanks!
I'm online shopping for 40 inch TV.
Even a digital TV also need antenna to received broadcasts?

https://shopee.com.my/product/28075514/1553228050?smtt=0.0.

This Toshiba TV is digital?

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