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post Nov 11 2019, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Nov 11 2019, 03:47 PM)
Can. Just recheck the connection and cables (if the cable is 'injured' anywhere) - replacing it with Astro cable (RG6 cable) highly recommended. In addition, check antenna alignment.

And by the way, is the old antenna equipped with the orange booster box? Defunct boxes can block digital signals...suggest doing away with it altogether (doing a direct connection between the decoder and antenna).
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 11 2019, 03:52 PM)
Are you using outdoor UHF antenna? If not sure, can take pic show us.

And try rewire new cable to that antenna using the new RG-6, which is also the same type of cable used for Astro.

Analogue TV broadcasts in both VHF and UHF. Digital is only in UHF.
Make sure the cable connection are connected directly only to your UHF antenna, and not splits into 2 cables to merge with VHF and UHF (if u have VHF antenna). And don't connect to any masthead amplifier (known as booster, typically the small white box that needs to powered on near your TV set).
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Yes its an outdoor antenna, no there isn't any booster or sort, however i can't remember if there's a split/merge cabling thing.
Sorry couldn't get a photo or anything as it is in my hometown, and i am doing everything i can to prevent my dad to go up onto the roof. (as he has been suggesting to do so to replace the antenna).

I'm getting him a new TV to replace the CRT + DTV tuner box. But before i do that i need to ensure the antenna works for DVB-T2 tuner else I need to figure out something else.

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post Nov 11 2019, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Nov 11 2019, 04:53 PM)
Yes its an outdoor antenna, no there isn't any booster or sort, however i can't remember if there's a split/merge cabling thing.
Sorry couldn't get a photo or anything as it is in my hometown, and i am doing everything i can to prevent my dad to go up onto the roof. (as he has been suggesting to do so to replace the antenna).

I'm getting him a new TV to replace the CRT + DTV tuner box. But before i do that i need to ensure the antenna works for DVB-T2 tuner else I need to figure out something else.
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You can get an installer/technician to help you with that if you want.
The antenna is just for receiving signal, UHF antenna is meant for receiving UHF frequencies, and it doesn't matter if support DVB-T2 or whatever it is.
Most importantly is the tuner or the TV that supports it, not the antenna.

What's the cable type? Is it RG-6 type (same as Astro cable)?
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post Nov 11 2019, 06:45 PM

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Seems this set price higher than others, can use wifi to watch Youtube? anyone tried?

https://estore.pensonic.com/product/mytv-br...decoder-ir-9410

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post Nov 11 2019, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(gwping @ Nov 11 2019, 06:45 PM)
Seems this set price higher than others, can use wifi to watch Youtube? anyone tried?

https://estore.pensonic.com/product/mytv-br...decoder-ir-9410
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RM187 is the retail price for MYTV Advance box.
Watch YouTube? MYTV want you to buy their TV box is only to receive/watch its digital TV channels and its other interactive services, not for other thing else.
No, you can't watch YouTube on that.
Perhaps you can look for Android boxes that comes with DVB-T2 built in tuner at online shopping sites like Lazada and Shopee.
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post Nov 11 2019, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 11 2019, 06:56 PM)
RM187 is the retail price for MYTV Advance box.
Watch YouTube? MYTV want you to buy their TV box is only to receive/watch its digital TV channels and its other interactive services, not for other thing else.
No, you can't watch YouTube on that.
Perhaps you can look for Android boxes that comes with DVB-T2 built in tuner at online shopping sites like Lazada and Shopee.
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Thanks for your reply, though saw 2 USB port, we can insert the WiFi antenna and watch Youtube like the BoTaTo Decoder..... cool2.gif
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post Nov 11 2019, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Nov 11 2019, 04:53 PM)
Yes its an outdoor antenna, no there isn't any booster or sort, however i can't remember if there's a split/merge cabling thing.
Sorry couldn't get a photo or anything as it is in my hometown, and i am doing everything i can to prevent my dad to go up onto the roof. (as he has been suggesting to do so to replace the antenna).

I'm getting him a new TV to replace the CRT + DTV tuner box. But before i do that i need to ensure the antenna works for DVB-T2 tuner else I need to figure out something else.
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How old is the antenna? If many years already just get a new one to replace. Imo no harm but just to make sure you don't need to go get another antenna while in the middle of setting up the new TV.
Regarding the cable, if my old antenna cable is not the screw type, just need to buy the converter right? or rewire is better? Because older TV usually you just insert the cable into the port, no need to screw. I am very sure this is UHF antenna, just the cable not using screw like astro.

QUOTE(gwping @ Nov 11 2019, 07:19 PM)
Thanks for your reply, though saw 2 USB port, we can insert the WiFi antenna and watch Youtube like the BoTaTo Decoder..... cool2.gif
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Botato decoder got WiFi or Ethernet port? Can watch Youtube and install app also?
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QUOTE(kelissa @ Nov 11 2019, 07:27 PM)
How old is the antenna? If many years already just get a new one to replace. Imo no harm but just to make sure you don't need to go get another antenna while in the middle of setting up the new TV.
Regarding the cable, if my old antenna cable is not the screw type, just need to buy the converter right? or rewire is better? Because older TV usually you just insert the cable into the port, no need to screw. I am very sure this is UHF antenna, just the cable not using screw like astro.
Botato decoder got WiFi or Ethernet port? Can watch Youtube and install app also?
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Yes indeed, got USB port for plug in Wifi Antenna and watch Youtube, but that is only around RM90, that's why saw this MyTV advance USB port I though can plug in WiFi Antenna too...... doh.gif
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post Nov 11 2019, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Nov 11 2019, 08:58 AM)
You can still find antennas requiring manual termination on sale even today. Those on the market here with ready connectors to accept F plugs you will find are almost always Thai brands.
blink.gif To carry around just get one of those shorter 5Es lo. Much easier. haha
Can be better - watch the Youtube video I posted above. Make sure the braiding is connected (touching) to the plate, while the core should be insulated from the same.
His old antenna should work just fine. I did part time antenna installation once and aligned dozens of such old antennas with perfect reception and signal strength. Just modify the connection re the braiding.

VHFs in my experience you can use if you're very, very close to the transmitter. Otherwise the performance varies greatly from the UHF.
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Hmm, why manual termination? Cheaper to produce by the manufacturer?

But he worry that JP-5E may not be that powerful. He want a portable, yet very powerful type of UHF antenna. But he's not sure how strong is 5E. Like now, his old 17E antenna works like okok, but if use 5E, means lesser elements, does it mean it'll less powerful than 17E ones. How strong JP-5E is, compared to

Hmm, so at least VHF antenna is not totally useless, isn't it? For those that live very close to transmitter can just reuse back the antenna.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 11 2019, 07:44 PM)
Hmm, so at least VHF antenna is not totally useless, isn't it? For those that live very close to transmitter can just reuse back the antenna.
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I use mine for FM radio.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 12 2019, 06:56 PM)
I use mine for FM radio.
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Use back the big bulky VHF antenna to receive FM radio? shocking.gif You connect that to your AV system or something?
Why..? Why not use some simple whip antenna or something? Just 1 long stick to get the job done?
Or you do that for the sake of reusing the antenna?
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 12 2019, 08:20 PM)
Use back the big bulky VHF antenna to receive FM radio?  shocking.gif You connect that to your AV system or something?
Why..? Why not use some simple whip antenna or something? Just 1 long stick to get the job done?
Or you do that for the sake of reusing the antenna?
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whip antenna is useless in my house. i don't live near the town or radio/tv tower. even phone cellular strength is crappy in my house.
nothing beats outdoor antenna tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 12 2019, 08:30 PM)
whip antenna is useless in my house. i don't live near the town or radio/tv tower. even phone cellular strength is crappy in my house.
nothing beats outdoor antenna  tongue.gif
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Okay... So what FM radio device did you use to connect your VHF antenna? Some audio amps or something?
Can take pic, of the antenna, cable, and the audio amp...
I'm kinda curious though...
Cuz I hardly see, or even never seen those who use TV antenna (VHF) to connect to a FM radio instead of TV. blink.gif
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post Nov 13 2019, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 12 2019, 11:15 PM)
Okay... So what FM radio device did you use to connect your VHF antenna? Some audio amps or something?
Can take pic, of the antenna, cable, and the audio amp...
I'm kinda curious though...
Cuz I hardly see, or even never seen those who use TV antenna (VHF) to connect to a FM radio instead of TV.  blink.gif
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Connected to my Denon AVR.
How is connecting outdoor antenna to a FM radio be a weird sight? In my grandma's house in rural area, even outdoor uhf/vhf antenna is useless. Need to use satellite.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 11 2019, 07:44 PM)
Hmm, why manual termination? Cheaper to produce by the manufacturer? ...
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It does save money, but also reduces losses.
It also saves you having to put a matching plug on that end of the downlead and making an outdoor connection waterproof is not easy.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 12 2019, 11:15 PM)
Okay... So what FM radio device did you use to connect your VHF antenna? Some audio amps or something?
Can take pic, of the antenna, cable, and the audio amp...
I'm kinda curious though...
Cuz I hardly see, or even never seen those who use TV antenna (VHF) to connect to a FM radio instead of TV.  blink.gif
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 13 2019, 07:27 AM)
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Connected to my Denon AVR.
How is connecting outdoor antenna to a FM radio be a weird sight?  In my grandma's house in rural area, even outdoor uhf/vhf antenna is useless. Need to use satellite.
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Yup, VHF outdoor antenna can connect to LCD TV with built-in FM tuner or to Denon or other brand AVR which has similar antenna connector.
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Those "DVBT" USB PC dongles also receive stereo FM radio, so you could use a laptop
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Nov 13 2019, 09:24 PM)
Those "DVBT" USB PC dongles also receive stereo FM radio, so you could use a laptop
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The right one can scan many, many radio transmissions.
For example you can track planes flying over your taman, see the unlock code to your neighbour's Ferrari... devil.gif

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QUOTE(dayojah @ Nov 13 2019, 09:24 PM)
Those "DVBT" USB PC dongles also receive stereo FM radio, so you could use a laptop
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Been googling about this with no meaningful result - can you point to where I can pursue this? Very interesting!
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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Nov 14 2019, 07:29 AM)
Been googling about this with no meaningful result - can you point to where I can pursue this? Very interesting!
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Google "RTL-SDR"
The RTL refers to the Realtek chips used while SDR means Software Defined Radio.

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These SDRs are easiest to use on Linux, but there is a Windows program to use them
https://cubicsdr.com/

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