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Medufsaid
post Feb 14 2024, 01:05 AM

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box spread (with american style options) is how 1r0nyman blew up his robinhood account
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First, you need to understand that options are either American Style (can be assigned early at any time) or European Style (can NOT be assigned early, only at the expiration date). You want to make sure you are using a European style option to set up your box spreads. If you don’t, you run the risk of getting assigned on part of your spread and the whole thing blowing up. You don’t want to do that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PMTraders/comments...ow_to_use_them/
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post Feb 14 2024, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 14 2024, 01:05 AM)
box spread (with american style options) is how 1r0nyman blew up his robinhood account https://www.reddit.com/r/PMTraders/comments...ow_to_use_them/
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Yea vanilla options are easier to deal with, especially plain European ones. More liquid too.
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post Feb 14 2024, 12:16 PM

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An interesting read on Stellantis. Assuming that the 30 billion EUR net cash figure is not some fake figures crated by accountants treated with abalone dinner the night before the numbers are printed out, plus 11 billion EUR of FCF, this company is too tempting... especially when EUR interest rates are high.

FT Opinion: Lex

Stellantis makes an unlikely market darling for car industry investors
Carmaker has cleaned up its act and become a good turnaround story since 2020 merger

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Source (with paywall): https://www.ft.com/content/8a1c07f6-54c8-41...ed-7a6e4e584d40
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post Feb 14 2024, 01:22 PM

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There is no way to open a CIMB SG account for me. Thats completely out of the question. Hence the query.
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please explain?

you didnt provide much details, members here are unable to learn from you.

as for me, i am a bit different. its just not possible for me to open CIMB MY account.
the story so long, i dont want to talk about it again too

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post Feb 14 2024, 01:29 PM

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at least you succeeded with ocbc, and furthermore your issue is with cimb Malaysia and not cimb sg

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post Feb 14 2024, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 13 2024, 05:25 PM)
Different entry prices of course.
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There are various accounting methods to handle that, but those are your concern not the broker concern. Broker sees you have X number of units, after sell you have X-Y.
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LostAndFound my futures account calculates by last in first out principle. so any closed positions (last batch of purchase will be matched with the units you just sold) will be filed under "realised p/l".

imo it's just a feel good factor. unrealised p/l is still p/l
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post Feb 15 2024, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Feb 14 2024, 03:20 PM)
There are various accounting methods to handle that, but those are your concern not the broker concern. Broker sees you have X number of units, after sell you have X-Y.
Not correct. In IBKR you can select the order of sale either on the First In First Out (FIFO) or Last In First Out (LIFO) basis. So i managed to resolve my issue. Chose LIFO.
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post Feb 15 2024, 12:25 AM

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Full list (FIFO / LIFO and 5 others) here


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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 15 2024, 12:07 AM)
Not correct. In IBKR you can select the order of sale either on the First In First Out (FIFO) or Last In First Out (LIFO) basis. So i managed to resolve my issue. Chose LIFO.
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Those are reporting (normally for tax reasons) decisions. What material impact does it have on us as Malaysians investing in overseas market? The broker is reporting the same data to you in two 'formats', but since we are not taxed locally for capital gains (nor can we claim for any losses incurred) this is pretty much just preference.
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i noticed he has strong preference (sale order's not the only one) towards many things. so we'll just have to leave it as that
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post Feb 15 2024, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Feb 15 2024, 11:12 PM)
Those are reporting (normally for tax reasons) decisions. What material impact does it have on us as Malaysians investing in overseas market? The broker is reporting the same data to you in two 'formats', but since we are not taxed locally for capital gains (nor can we claim for any losses incurred) this is pretty much just preference.
Not bothered about tax. Ive been building up positions in all my Big Tech stocks since 2018. So obviously i want the shares purchased earlier to continue to run but cash out of some of the latest purchased ones as im not happy with some of my latest entry points. Hence why i want LIFO instead of FIFO
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post Feb 16 2024, 10:38 AM

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after noticing that my monthly IBKR reports have weird bugs (figures that don't tally) months ago, i started to just list down my trades separately in excel. in case future discrepancies involve missing real money (this also means i can generate my own charts/reports however i want, FIFO or LIFO)

below is a snapshot of last night's daily report to show u what i mean. reports says i was charged $0.36 but grand total (and also my excel) agrees that $0.35 is the correct charge (altogether $0.70)

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 15 2024, 11:49 PM)
Not bothered about tax. Ive been building up positions in all my Big Tech stocks since 2018. So obviously i want the shares purchased earlier to continue to run but cash out of some of the latest purchased ones as im not happy with some of my latest entry points. Hence why i want LIFO instead of FIFO
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So your objective here is to earn more profit?

If counter A was bought in 2018 at 100 USD (100 units), then bought again at 2022 at 200USD (100 units), and now in 2024 you sell 100 units for 250USD, why do you care 'which' units were sold? You are still holding 100 units (post sale) which have unrealised value of 250USD.
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if someone values "cosmetics" (even if there's no practical function), who are we to judge

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Feb 17 2024, 10:24 PM)
So your objective here is to earn more profit?

If counter A was bought in 2018 at 100 USD (100 units), then bought again at 2022 at 200USD (100 units), and now in 2024 you sell 100 units for 250USD, why do you care 'which' units were sold? You are still holding 100 units (post sale) which have unrealised value of 250USD.
No. The objective is not to earn more profits. The objective is to trim to get out of later positions (currently in the green) which will go negative once the market corrects. So instead of holding some negative positions, ive trimmed them to increase my cash balance in order to buy in lower later.
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 17 2024, 10:32 PM)
if someone values "cosmetics" (even if there's no practical function), who are we to judge
If you dont understand ask questions and seek clarification. Else keep the sarcasm to yourself. Im not a noob.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 18 2024, 10:58 PM)
ive trimmed them to increase my cash balance in order to buy in lower later.
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can you give a hypothetical example? start with sample entry prices/cash balance, and the hypothetical scenario A or B?

it's ok if you don't plan to plot it out (due to time constraints). we're just here to make money so i'm more than happy to leave it aside
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 18 2024, 11:04 PM)
can you give a hypothetical example? start with sample entry prices/cash balance, and the hypothetical scenario A or B?

it's ok if you don't plan to plot it out (due to time constraints). we're just here to make money so i'm more than happy to leave it aside
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This is my actual portfolio for Alphabet. I intend to get rid of my position in December 2023 as it will free up USD33K in capital.

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post Feb 18 2024, 11:26 PM

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ok. so assuming market reopens on Tues @ same price of $140.52, instead of selling xxxx5 shares, you'll just need to sell xxxx1.1816 shares.

if FIFO, you'll liquidate all of 1st purchase, and some of 2nd purchase
if LIFO, you'll liquidate most of 4th purchase

both will result in same amt of freed up capital

(redacting the beginning figures of shares in case of privacy)

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