This is a non issue as we know beforehand the exact location of the site, before we sign the SnP,and some of us particular like it (I mean NOT really in Jalan Ipoh, but in a green hillside further away). Those who complain this must be buying the house blindly and not been going to the exact site of their future house before signing SnP. If they whine and felt "cheated" over exact location, they shouldn't own a house in the first place.

Plain and simple, ESPECIALLY in land size, do not expect "bonus" and extra from whats formally shown in floorplan in SnP. Sorry for those who have high anticipations I guess. Land is expensive these days.

Well, its common sense NOT TO trust brochures. Its a no brainer.

Well a promise of 20ft land is alot. Even normal terrace house costing over $200k++ few years ago, other developers also won't "waste" their land this way (by promising to "give" as bonus to buyer). Don't you ever thought its kinda over-ly fishy back then, before you proceed to buy the house?



If I'm not wrong, the house you live in is leadmont's previous and first project. Your "study" means you are studying ONLY ONE development they made, rather than many projects that they screw the buyers up. As you can see from previous pages of this topic (starting from page 45 I think), there are many photos of Phase I, both inside and outside. What do you think of its progress? Are they satisfactory so far, in your opinion?

Well over the past years, I'm sure your area must've had some case of heavy rain. Hows the condition of the land after heavy rain? If you say "if", it can only mean there is no problem so far. Enlighten us if the erosion had started to happen already.

The gate is 11ft and its shown in SnP. Dont tell me you expect wider porch than those stated in your SnP. I believe your SnP also will show the masterplan ,INCLUDING the measurement /wideness of the road. I'm curious, did you actually read through your SnP before you proceed with the purchase?



No need sorry. 30 feet from gate to gate is what is shown in my SnP. From my calculation, I expect 6 feet from each side will be allocated small area outside each house, including the longkang. that leave 18 feet road for the cars to move comfortably. So each lane will be about 9 feet. I've been to the site personally and I found out the road is wide enough.


Oh boy. You know you are buying a townhouse, the SnP states the width of road, and the gate size and all. Please EXPECT the final "product" to be so. DOn't expect the developer to go extra mile and built better/wider/bigger to accomodate more cars. I started to believe its NOT developer who underdelivered, but you OVERLY anticipate them to give you more. The only way to comfortably park a car outside the gate would be buying a proper terrace house with at least 18feet wide). Of course you'll complain of not be able to park the 3rd car then. Maybe its time to get a semi-D ?


If you know you spent whole life buying a house, then you can "turn back" at the following, rather than proceeding with purchase, then heartbroken over what you "anticipate" doesnt come true.

- location: if the site not good. cancel booking fee
- road width/gate width.. all the measurements stated in SnP. Just dont sign it when you know you'll be expecting a mere 12feet road, or a 11feet gate.


I'm sorrie but some of your claims are made to "exaggerate" the evilness of developer. Things like these for eg:

- "jalan ipoh NOT located in jalan ipoh", -
- final product not same like in brochure
- "various defects" (many houses have defects when keys handed over. most important is how prompt they fix the defect)
- road width , which already shown in SnP, developer only built accordingly.
- unable to park more cars. Well its a townhouse, porch width clearly shown in SnP. dont expect wider.

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Nov 13 2008, 12:03 AM

Long time no posts.

Good point alan...!!

We buy amansiara is because of their greenary and others reason maybe for design or location.
Everybody has their reason to buy this house!! If you can't accept the thing they state at SnP or show room then don't buy it.

Every develope project sure has some problem.. Is any one here expect 100%%% statifactory??
We also facing the same problem for this project. Like the bridge connect to KL, the garden is not as mention by salesman, cheappp fencing on phase 1... and etc.

I reserve my opinion for this developer until i get my keys and get in the house to has a look myself.

Hey any one got new photo to share??

well, most of the ppl when they hv bought something sure they will think that they r the smart buyer, nvm, i already said i m not to here to bad mouth the developer or their project but to share my experience, since alan u hv ur point i think i will not continue my story of how i fought with the developer until to the tribunal court and how much time i spent and how i regreted to hv bought their property. i admit nobody will hv 100% satisfactory to their new hse, sure there is some minor defects here & there need to be rectififed, it depends on how the developer react and whether they r responsible or not.

for an example, 1st of the defects is leaking, everyhouse in the project is leaking, 2nd- bath room issue, the developer just want to fulfill the requirement of the authority 1 bath 1 water tank, so they installed, but they built the hse just to the min height of the requirement of the authority, so when they placed the water tank on top of the bath room, it is too low to give the water pressure to flow, so the water of ur bath room will be like dog"pee" that low, imagine, how r u going to take bath with the flow of water, dog pee also bigger than it, more the water tank just stick to the ceiling, not even 1cm of extra buffer, so if u want to do any maintenance of the water tank, wat u need to do is to physically remove it down of cut a hole from the side of the tank.....much more to say...well anyway i m not going to elaborate more here..

well, i can tell u mine is until today the defects is not done and i hv brought this to tribunal to settle, do u know how much time consuming?

never mind, i wish all of u all good luck & hv a pleasant experience with the developer.

Good luck everybody, do not feel cheated and heart broken when u find out the truth urself, just be prepared for a long battle, soon u all will face it and suffer as me....i m not happy or as chinese said 'xin zai le huo' i m sad and pity all of u inclusive myself as a victim of this irresponsible developer.

alan, if u happen to meet up with a guy there call tj wong, try to ask him what position is he in the company, sure he will tell u he is merely a worker or project manager or clerk of work, but the truth is he is the boss of the company, see if a boss dare not admit that he is a boss, what can u expect the co will be?

yeh.babe,

do continue sharing your experience. perhaps it can be useful guidance for us in case something bad happen.

btw, alan's opinion is also true. one must understand and read any agreement before he/she commit.

i'm from selayang, and yes jalan ipoh is from kl until rawang. technically the brochure is correct you know. the marketing strategy works actually hehehe

do u know that in my snp the road supposedly is 30ft, but when it built it left with 12ft road coz need to hv buffer and drain etc...so the road has become 12ft, one of our neighbour, a malay chap went to mpkj and complain, during that time vp already given, we all took the key but cf not issued yet, due to the malay complaint, the mpkj refused to issue cf until the developer widen the road, after 2 mths later, they hv widen the road only we get our cf to move in. it stated in snp but then how? we as a buyer still in a losing end.... i advise all of u all come to tmn bkt emas to hv a look for urself, do u know that during the nite 1/2 of tmn bkt emas is dark due to road light not on when we 1st move in, we complain to mpkj, TNB, they said is developer responsibility coz developer has to maintain the site for at least 6 mths, so we call developer, they push to authority, we r like ball being kicked here & there and yet no solution....

somemore, developer promised will provide 24 security to our project for free for 1st yr, yes, they did, but with 1 guard only at the so called guard hse, u know how is the guard hse, it is only a cabin, developer temporary placed there as guard hse, with 1 guard no patrolling, so break in case always happened, after 1 yr, the developer even tow out the cabin from our project n place it to amansiara site....imagine how responsible they r....

well, alan i do not expect a wider car porch, it already stated clearly in snp is 11ft, wat i meant is the corner hse, they cant turn their car in the hse directly due to the small rd 12 ft, not enough turning point, can u imagine that or not? if not becoz the malay chap went to mpkj to complain the rd will not be as wide as today, somemore when we call to developer to ask for cf, u know wat they told us, becoz of us , complain to mpkj, that is y delay the cf, that is our fault, or else we could hv our cf earlier, come on, we only fight for our rite, but this is what we get, u think it is fair? u still think i m exaggerate the evilness of the developer?

i m speechless....

I'm sorry to hear about your predicament above that clearly shows developer is at fault . I wonder why you didnt posted it earlier. Instead, you go around nitpicking about things that developer is not at fault, but your high expectations, from the "location fault" all the way till "road width" unsatisfactory.

Do let us know more about your other problems , which you think developer must be blamed.

Thank you so for your advice. so thats mean your house bathroom also very low? can move the water tank to other place? because I noticed that the new project also got same problem. do u complaint to the developer? what have they said? i very worry about that problem. hope u can share more with us. I also know that every developer got problem one.

i know not long later phase 1 will be handed over, truth will reveal, time will tell.... alan, i wonder which phase and which floor u bought..if u tell me, i will tell u what will be the defects that u r expecting...to be frank, i hv a fren who work for one of the sub- contractor of the project, i know lots of inner info.

I hv to say sorry i did not post this earlier to give warning to u guys coz i only find out this forum lately...

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Added on November 13, 2008, 11:12 pmmago, the developer cant do anything, u only hv 2 option to rectify this water tank problem:-

1. to place a pump in ur water tank but it is costly
2. ignore the tank, divert ur water pipe to direct main from meter

option 1 developer did not do for me cost it is costly, so they did option 2, meaning now i m not using the tank, water from my hse is fr direct main, that is d solution i get. i even removed the tank myself since it is useless, with my own cost...sigh

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Added on November 13, 2008, 11:21 pmby the way, the water tank in my hse is only on top of the bath room, u can see it with only 2 iron bar support the water tank, like construction site, so ugly, i heard amansiara at least has ceiling to cover up the tank, but in tmn bkt emas, no ceiling to cover, u can physically see the tank on top of ur head, tat is y i removed it...due to 2 reasons:-

1. it is dangerous, coz only supported by 2 iron bar, what if they collapse?

2. so ugly, dont u think so?

u know how much i spent to buy this hse...rm119k...of coz cheaper then u guys a lot, but i dont think i deserve this kind of hse, it is not low cost, even low cost is better than this.

that is a lot more defects and unfair thing happened in tmn bkt emas, almost all the house has problem, not only townhouse, double storey, semi D, low cost flat... all total of houses approx 380 units

This post has been edited by yeh.babe: Nov 13 2008, 11:21 PM

yeh.babe can tell us more above the inner info u know ???

Since we got ppl hv a bad experience on this developer project..we shd prepare ours self for the bad lots. and get ready to fight back.If ur mention is true,the developer is superb SUCK.What we can do???? Nothing much rite? just sit and waiting to die??? time will tell us.

See how the fly-over? i do not think they will build.any comment on this?

Developer all SUCK.This is base on buyer luck.

Hi to all amansiara buyer...
I'm newbie here and one of amansiara buyer. Mine is 310C phase 2. Just found this thread. Can anybody update what is the progress now ?

Well, we just hope that the developer will hand the key to all the purchasers on time ...we should be glad that they dont abandon hte whole project ( psssst..touch wood!)...other than that , we will only know after we move in..we take comments as our guide

Dont worry !

Ello deb and welcome


For phase II, close up progress pics are located at page 45 onwards of this topic, circa 6 weeks ago I think.

And below are the latest updates from "afar". photos taken about 10 days ago. I notice the clubhouse building looks too big for a clubhouse. I suspect its a commercial building. :[

But the happy note for phase II is.... the frontmost row are nearly done. The roofing also been tiled so it seems. Hope phase II will deliver earlier than expected.

btw, notice the pic 5 and 6. The crane on phase III, its direction changes ... proving they are still WORKING on weekend when I snap those photos

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Nov 18 2008, 12:58 PM


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hi Deb,

guess you are my nearest neighbour ! i'm at 304 P2 ..we shd be at the same row

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Added on November 18, 2008, 1:58 pmhi Alan

i Dont think it's a commercial building ..there's no space for parking lots nearby ..we do hope there's a BIG clubhouse to accommodate at least 1 to 2/3 of Amansiarans later ...hmm...can do wedding reception there too ..or Jamuan DeepaRaya or Jamuan CNY

This post has been edited by phchuo: Nov 18 2008, 01:58 PM

Let see what will happen after completed the clubhse..:thumbs:the smallest clubhse 10x10 with one or two gym equipment.swimming pool just for kid...hahahah
hopefully this will not happen to us..god bless us...

This post has been edited by kelvin88b: Nov 18 2008, 05:49 PM

yes...if there's..so i can do the 1st opening ceremony for the hall as i'll do my wedding reception & all amansiarans wil b invited )

last 2 week i went to site pretending hv to met somebody up there,but the guard wont allowed.meanwhile "wait someone" i borak2 with the guard.he said that was a clubhouse and the swimming pool is at 2nd floor..wa!!! sounds like pusat akuatik negara???n flyover also will be build cos a few days b4,there a peple from jkr went to check the area to propose flyover..n last thing he said phase 1 handover will late for 1 month..end of january..

Hmm... Since the clubhouse is exclusive for paid members only. We only got "free" use for first 1 or 2 years after moving in. Sounds logical to have them build the pool INSIDE the building rather than outdoor (which I though I plan to sneak in by jumping over the wall).

alan...

sneaking over the wall for swimming poo;...i just remember my memories during the college time... main seek and hide with "pak guard" at swimming pool...

I just recover from chickenpox....2 weeks MC..yesterday i saw divider already contructed to amansiara and lamp post to main road...