fair enough i was surprise that they are using liquid metal as i heard is not cheap using it.

The material itself is not super expensive. It's 2-3x more expensive than most metal based non conductive TIMs but on the whole, not gonna break the bank.

But it does mean they need to have some competent people at the assembly line to apply it properly. Because LQM is highly conductive, can't just put a dab and screw it onto the heatsink. Needs to be spread properly. Just one spill onto the mobo and it's GG entire PS5. So this part increases assembly time which means an increase in cost.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Oct 7 2020, 10:25 PM

ya true.. at least on cooling design sony willing to spend on it..

Someone in fb group asked about pre order from sony my website. He said sony website pre order has finished and he couldn't make it.

When did they even open a pre order? Is this guy bluffing?

My takeaways after watching the video are;

- They minimized moving parts and went digital. the only moving part in there might be the fans and and the eject function on the blu ray drive.
- M.2 expansion is the future of storage expansion
- It looks easy to clean
- Liquid metal cools the CPU and GPU wow

This post has been edited by drunkonpiss: Oct 8 2020, 12:34 AM

2 days back Sony MY mentioned it's in the midst of launching process only

i will be pissed if they true lol there is zero mention on this lol

from my untrained eyes, I wouldn't say the PCB is engineered efficiently, a lot of wasted space there
I can safely say that a PS5s/PS5 mini is definitely coming in near future once they redesign the PCB

using liquid metal for TIM is a major plus point there, but the fan, it's similar centrifugal type found in PS4, which contributed to the loud jet engine noise, compared to XBsX, axial type which runs quieter and has higher flow,

Lastly the M.2 slot for storage expansion:
Good point is it's easily accessible without the need of any tools, except a screw driver to screw down your SSD, also a lot of space there for those SSD with heatsinks
Bad point is it looks like an enclosed space without any airflow, I don't see any air vents there, hope I'm wrong, as highspeed SSD can run very very hot! If it's an enclosed space without any airflow, your SSD got a huge heatsink also is useless

Anyway, IMO in terms of engineering like heat management & PCB design, XBsX is a winner there

IINM Sony MY pre-order is by invitation only

Summary of teardown.

The venting for the nvme slot is there, but looks very constricted. Not much of an active air flow going through there it seems like. If you look at it again, the slot is located pretty near the fan though.

But hard to judge without a more detailed teardown look.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Oct 8 2020, 12:49 PM

Well, we don't need "super quiet"

What we need is no jet engine or super loud fan noise, that's all

Well, duh... that's certainly a given

It's all relative.

My definition of "super quiet" is below 30db, from a 1m distance. The noise floor of my HT room is 28db, so anything louder I can hear it specifically.

I do not think Sony's term of "super quiet" is anywhere close to my definition of it.

Bro, I would like to know what might happen if the system runs good @ 6 phases VRM? I am noob at this so just asking.

This would be a bit technical, but I'll try to simplify it as much as possible.

A processor of any kind needs electric (duh) in which case the motherboard is receiving from the power supply as voltage. But the processor cannot just use that voltage as is, it needs to be be phased out till the point where it is low enough and not too high for it to work, as specified by the processor design. Too low of a voltage causes instability, too high of a voltage causes monumental heat increase. There has to be a correct balance.

So VRM phases will take the voltage and filter them out, as many times as the phases are available before going through to the processor. Generally speaking, the more phases there are, the more times the incoming voltage will be checked and thus the more accurate and clean the current will be. So if there are 6 phases, the voltage will be checked six times.

But of course phases aren't free, the more phases there are, the more difficult it is to implement. It's not simply just getting more mosfets and slapping them onto the board.

To go back to the PS5, I'm not making any conclusion until there are high res pictures of the motherboard. I do not know what mosfets they are using and the caps look to be sufficient too. But Cerny mentioned how they are controlling clock speeds in relation to temperatures, but in order to have a correct balance on that - the VRM section needs to be robust too. From the teardown, it looks good enough but again, no conclusion because it's not close enough to see what components they are using.

Still own a fat and a slim vita.
Guess it’s time to retire them or move them out of official firmware.
I doubt it’ll even support any sort of remote play from the PS5.

Made in Malaysia, just like Xbox series X also

AMD is the biggest winner here

both chips probably are made in the same factory in Penang

gone were the days of competing consoles will be using different chips, it's actually surprising to see both camp using both AMD's CPU & GPU