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 PlayStation 5 discussion, RM2299 /RM1869, 11/12/2020 MY Launch

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post Oct 9 2020, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Oct 9 2020, 12:27 PM)
AMD is the biggest winner here

both chips probably are made in the same factory in Penang

gone were the days of competing consoles will be using different chips, it's actually surprising to see both camp using both AMD's CPU & GPU
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What is so surprising? The current gen PS4 and Xbox has been using AMD APU
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post Oct 9 2020, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Xaphier @ Oct 9 2020, 01:16 PM)
What is so surprising? The current gen PS4 and Xbox has been using AMD APU
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ah, forgotten about current gen, brain still stuck in PS3 era console wars tongue.gif
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post Oct 10 2020, 08:21 AM

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Any news on pre-orders?
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post Oct 10 2020, 09:25 AM

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PS4 backwards compatibility officially confirmed. >99% games compatible and those that are incompatible are irrelevant.

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/09/ps4...tions-answered/
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post Oct 10 2020, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Oct 10 2020, 09:25 AM)
PS4 backwards compatibility officially confirmed. >99% games compatible and those that are incompatible are irrelevant.

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/09/ps4...tions-answered/
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ya good to know lol i dont play any of this games as well so all is good.
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post Oct 10 2020, 11:37 AM

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Really wish they would disclose more about what to expect when it comes to high refresh rate gaming. Is a 144Hz monitor with HDMI 1.4 good enough, or should I be looking for monitors with HDMI 2/2.1? Is 1080p 120fps gonna be a norm? If I am not mistaken COD is confirmed for a 120fps mode on the series X at least.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 8 2020, 03:19 PM)
This would be a bit technical, but I'll try to simplify it as much as possible.

A processor of any kind needs electric (duh) in which case the motherboard is receiving from the power supply as voltage. But the processor cannot just use that voltage as is, it needs to be be phased out till the point where it is low enough and not too high for it to work, as specified by the processor design. Too low of a voltage causes instability, too high of a voltage causes monumental heat increase. There has to be a correct balance.

So VRM phases will take the voltage and filter them out, as many times as the phases are available before going through to the processor. Generally speaking, the more phases there are, the more times the incoming voltage will be checked and thus the more accurate and clean the current will be. So if there are 6 phases, the voltage will be checked six times.

But of course phases aren't free, the more phases there are, the more difficult it is to implement. It's not simply just getting more mosfets and slapping them onto the board.

To go back to the PS5, I'm not making any conclusion until there are high res pictures of the motherboard. I do not know what mosfets they are using and the caps look to be sufficient too. But Cerny mentioned how they are controlling clock speeds in relation to temperatures, but in order to have a correct balance on that - the VRM section needs to be robust too. From the teardown, it looks good enough but again, no conclusion because it's not close enough to see what components they are using.
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Wow
so basically now the thing depends on the quality of components..
again I believe the price of PS5 should've been a bit lower compared to XSX as its even falls a bit short in terms of raw power too...

hey btw thanks a bunch bro for explaining happy.gif now the thing is completely clear to me happy.gif
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post Oct 10 2020, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Deathhunter @ Oct 10 2020, 11:43 AM)
Wow
so basically now the thing depends on the quality of components..
again I believe the price of PS5 should've been a bit lower compared to XSX as its even falls a bit short in terms of raw power too...

hey btw thanks a bunch bro for explaining happy.gif now the thing is completely clear to me happy.gif
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I'm just interested and curious what power stages they are using. 40a per stage or more? I assume it's around there because they do have passive cooling for the VRM, a heatpipe that connects to a smaller heatsink that is embedded together with the top EMI shield.

Bigger power stages generally don't need any cooling at all, but of course way more expensive.
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US already sold out PS5
mean while here does not even have a price lol
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post Oct 12 2020, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Oct 12 2020, 08:57 AM)
US already sold out PS5
mean while here does not even have a price lol
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Not even get SIRIM approval if you check the SIRIM website

This post has been edited by cyrobytes: Oct 12 2020, 11:27 AM
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post Oct 12 2020, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Oct 12 2020, 08:57 AM)
US already sold out PS5
mean while here does not even have a price lol
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i guessing next year for us lol
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post Oct 12 2020, 11:18 AM

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any pre-order news today?

NO.
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post Oct 12 2020, 12:32 PM

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the latest response from sony malaysia facebook.
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post Oct 12 2020, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(AstonCheah @ Oct 12 2020, 12:32 PM)
user posted image

the latest response from sony malaysia facebook.
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nice will keep checking out sony malaysia fb everyday starting today lol icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(AstonCheah @ Oct 12 2020, 12:32 PM)
user posted image

the latest response from sony malaysia facebook.
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Oct 12 2020, 01:57 PM)
nice will keep checking out sony malaysia fb everyday starting today lol icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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SONY MY ask u buy TV first rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Oct 12 2020, 03:10 PM)
SONY MY ask u buy TV first  rclxm9.gif
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maybe off topic, is the X90H they are promoting good for ps5? this may be in my consideration list for next tv upgrade.
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post Oct 12 2020, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(AstonCheah @ Oct 12 2020, 03:45 PM)
maybe off topic, is the X90H they are promoting good for ps5? this may be in my consideration list for next tv upgrade.
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It's a good LCD LED TV. It's got all the good qualities as far as gaming is concerned though:

- Practically no fear of burn-in (though technically it can still happen with LCDs, but it's near impossible)
- Low input lag
- Good enough out-of-the-box accuracy for gamers
- Good contrast ratio (for an LCD that is)
- Good enough upscaling (especially important for those current gen PS4 games that are locked to 1080p)


Still, it's still a mid-entry LCD with a VA panel and that does come with several pitfalls:

- Okay HDR, good enough for dark rooms but will struggle in brighter conditions
- Terrible viewing angles
- Average color volume coverage
- Poor anti reflective coating
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post Oct 12 2020, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 12 2020, 04:03 PM)
It's a good LCD LED TV.  It's got all the good qualities as far as gaming is concerned though:

- Practically no fear of burn-in (though technically it can still happen with LCDs, but it's near impossible)
- Low input lag
- Good enough out-of-the-box accuracy for gamers
- Good contrast ratio (for an LCD that is)
- Good enough upscaling (especially important for those current gen PS4 games that are locked to 1080p)
Still, it's still a mid-entry LCD with a VA panel and that does come with several pitfalls:

- Okay HDR, good enough for dark rooms but will struggle in brighter conditions
- Terrible viewing angles
- Average color volume coverage
- Poor anti reflective coating
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thanks for your opinion, any idea if comparing to samsung TU8500?

and can it do split screen like one watching youtube another playing games?
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QUOTE(AstonCheah @ Oct 12 2020, 04:22 PM)
thanks for your opinion, any idea if comparing to samsung TU8500?

and can it do split screen like one watching youtube another playing games?
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Not much of a comparison needed to be frank. The x90H is on a whole other level in comparison to the TU8500.

All the TU8500 does better is contrast ratio. Everything else is significantly behind. The deal breaker is that it's another one of those TVs that doesn't actually do HDR correctly but it's advertised as one that does.

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