QUOTE(honsiong @ Jun 9 2021, 10:25 AM)
dunno how many times must we revisit this.lazy wanna explain so much.
just keep calm and DCA
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Jun 9 2021, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 9 2021, 10:34 AM) Oh yea I forgot that word.QUOTE(tehoice @ Jun 9 2021, 11:19 AM) Just need to repeat this from multiple forumers constantly to prevent newbies from timing the market with stashaway.Wanna time the market? Open a brokerage account. |
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Jun 9 2021, 12:38 PM
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Jun 9 2021, 06:31 PM
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RM250 per week for me.
Always check yahoo finance when market opens, but diamond hands are still steady lol. most prob cuz im in still in the greens altho KWEB dropped from ATH 100++ But deposit is kinda slow now. Deposit at monday night (PH), still processing up until now. This post has been edited by stormseeker92: Jun 9 2021, 06:31 PM |
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Jun 9 2021, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Jun 9 2021, 06:31 PM) RM250 per week for me. Is Sunday the best day to deposit via giro?Always check yahoo finance when market opens, but diamond hands are still steady lol. most prob cuz im in still in the greens altho KWEB dropped from ATH 100++ But deposit is kinda slow now. Deposit at monday night (PH), still processing up until now. |
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Jun 9 2021, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Jun 9 2021, 06:31 PM) RM250 per week for me. monday night deposit.....so, Tuesday morning accept by SAMY......Always check yahoo finance when market opens, but diamond hands are still steady lol. most prob cuz im in still in the greens altho KWEB dropped from ATH 100++ But deposit is kinda slow now. Deposit at monday night (PH), still processing up until now. mostly will update in ur portfolio tonight (wednesday) or tomorrow morning......still in normal speed.....not fast not slow |
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Jun 9 2021, 09:01 PM
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Jun 9 2021, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jun 9 2021, 08:24 PM) monday night deposit.....so, Tuesday morning accept by SAMY...... Probably cuz they received Tuesday morning, 1 or 2 business days count starts from Wednesday. Still processing now.mostly will update in ur portfolio tonight (wednesday) or tomorrow morning......still in normal speed.....not fast not slow |
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Jun 9 2021, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Jun 9 2021, 09:02 PM) Probably cuz they received Tuesday morning, 1 or 2 business days count starts from Wednesday. Still processing now. may due to Tuesday, many buy order......so not able to process......i think tomorrow can settle......hope during mco time they oso can process with normal speed..... |
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Jun 9 2021, 09:43 PM
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I am new to this, never invested anything before. Some advice would be greatly appreciated.
From what I gather what I should do or not do is: 1. Do not change risk index halfway through. Stick with it. 2. Regular deposit is the way. Now my questions are: Q1. I understand the whole premise is to select a risk that I am comfortable with. But I have this perception that in a long run the returns will be positive even for higher risk because the market grows (No idea whether this is correct or not, just gather from what I read). If that's the case and I am investing for long term >10 years, shouldn't I just select 36%? Q2. speaking of this exact moment today, I have a sum of money. Should I break it down and deposit regularly (4x monthly), or just deposit it whole now? This amount is significant to me, but isn't all I have. Q3. Is there any real benefits to invest into multiple risk index instead of sticking to 1 for a long run? (Similar to Q1) Thanks in advance. |
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Jun 9 2021, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(time24 @ Jun 9 2021, 09:43 PM) I am new to this, never invested anything before. Some advice would be greatly appreciated. Comment regarding your point 1. Do not change risk index halfway through. Stick with it:From what I gather what I should do or not do is: 1. Do not change risk index halfway through. Stick with it. 2. Regular deposit is the way. Now my questions are: Q1. I understand the whole premise is to select a risk that I am comfortable with. But I have this perception that in a long run the returns will be positive even for higher risk because the market grows (No idea whether this is correct or not, just gather from what I read). If that's the case and I am investing for long term >10 years, shouldn't I just select 36%? Q2. speaking of this exact moment today, I have a sum of money. Should I break it down and deposit regularly (4x monthly), or just deposit it whole now? This amount is significant to me, but isn't all I have. Q3. Is there any real benefits to invest into multiple risk index instead of sticking to 1 for a long run? (Similar to Q1) Thanks in advance. "Do not" sounds strong; it's not wrong to do it, you just need to know what and why you're doing it. Changing RI tells SA to sell and buy different things using your money, and in doing so, realising whatever profit/loss then and there. Somewhere down the road, you may find yourself having different risk appetite or you're investing on other different stuff, that will prompt you into changing your risk index, nothing wrong with it. Answers: 1. Short answer: yes. Long answer: pick one that complements your other investments, for diversification purpose. Look at 36% SRI portfolio allocation, it weighs more heavily on China market(?) and is 100% equities. If you have your own brokerage account and you're already investing heavily on the same side, then you probably want to pick a different SRI to have more exposure in different market/instructments. 2. Do what is most comfortable to you 3. Like you said it's similar to Q1, the answer is similar to A1 Welcome to investments! Quazacolt liked this post
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Jun 9 2021, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(time24 @ Jun 9 2021, 09:43 PM) I am new to this, never invested anything before. Some advice would be greatly appreciated. Now my questions are:From what I gather what I should do or not do is: 1. Do not change risk index halfway through. Stick with it. 2. Regular deposit is the way. Thanks in advance. Q1. I understand the whole premise is to select a risk that I am comfortable with. But I have this perception that in a long run the returns will be positive even for higher risk because the market grows (No idea whether this is correct or not, just gather from what I read). If that's the case and I am investing for long term >10 years, shouldn't I just select 36%? If u foreseen it will in upward trending, will suggest u either SRI 30% or 36% if u young enough......this two got a bit diff in asset/etf.....pls flip2 n check it Q2. speaking of this exact moment today, I have a sum of money. Should I break it down and deposit regularly (4x monthly), or just deposit it whole now? This amount is significant to me, but isn't all I have. First , ask urself........u know how to timing market?.....if yes, wait the lowest point n lump sum in......then wait it up. If u not pro in timing market, just DCA..... got many choice, u can lump sum ur money into Stashaways Simple , u set recurring transfer weekly from Stashaway Simple to ur Portfolio (prefer every monday or tuesday, and it take longer time than usual process. U just monthly transfer ur money by Jompay to Stashaway Simple. Not need monitor so frequent......bcoz u not timing it. OR U can set recurring deposit (by Jompay) weekly from ur acc to Stashaways Portfolio..........just ignore the Stashaways Simple. Q3. Is there any real benefits to invest into multiple risk index instead of sticking to 1 for a long run? (Similar to Q1) some ppl got diff goal for each portfolio , eg. Retirement Fund (36%), Honey Moon Fund 3 years (22%), Dream Car 5 year (36%), ................up to u...... some ppl got diff portfolio of same risk bcoz they didnt op for re-optimizer in SAMY all the best , n remember get somebody referral link to enjoy 6 month management fee waiver This post has been edited by ironman16: Jun 9 2021, 10:07 PM |
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Jun 9 2021, 10:16 PM
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Just want to share my experience of SAMY and performance so far.
Started 10th May 2020 so around 13 months so far Started with 3 portfolios, 8%, 14% and 22% In Nov 2020, after looking at performance of the 3 portfolios, decided to consolidate all in 22% because it was the best performing. Weekly DCA without fail. Dumped in extra money in Feb 2021, in hindsight not the best decision as KWEB was ATH But in conclusion quite happy with returns and will continue DCA 22% seems to be sweet spot for me risk tolerance wise TWR 20.01% MWR 13.33% Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Jun 9 2021, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jun 9 2021, 09:35 AM) withdraw and then buy back again? if yes, when? when dip again? what if the dip is small and it is on its way up? Withdraw then buy back when you feel it is right because only you can do what is right with your money not me At the end of day the buying it is based on FX gain 70% and index gain 30% hence you need to be smart on when to buy and sell as last month i already made 3% thanks to volatility and FX dip by MYR and the best 2.5 weeks bull run by far this year on SA |
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QUOTE(nightpipper @ Jun 9 2021, 10:16 PM) Just want to share my experience of SAMY and performance so far. 22% portfolio is very very very stable in terms of price movements hence you need to check once a month because the gain is very steady while it can move against inflationary pressuresStarted 10th May 2020 so around 13 months so far Started with 3 portfolios, 8%, 14% and 22% In Nov 2020, after looking at performance of the 3 portfolios, decided to consolidate all in 22% because it was the best performing. Weekly DCA without fail. Dumped in extra money in Feb 2021, in hindsight not the best decision as KWEB was ATH But in conclusion quite happy with returns and will continue DCA 22% seems to be sweet spot for me risk tolerance wise TWR 20.01% MWR 13.33% You can be thankful because if you were to bought in 36% your portfolio might be in red maybe close to 8% losses due to high exposure to KWEB |
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Jun 9 2021, 10:57 PM
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hi all sifu ,
newbie to investment. want to ask , is StashAway suitable for ppl like me who like to put money there and just leave it ? (sort of like semi auto pilot). with regular deposit of course. I am not the type that want to keep checking and tweaking this and that (maybe once a while can) Thanks |
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Jun 9 2021, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(yibaandre @ Jun 9 2021, 10:57 PM) hi all sifu , what happens when you checked and noticed that your investment is losing money?newbie to investment. want to ask , is StashAway suitable for ppl like me who like to put money there and just leave it ? (sort of like semi auto pilot). with regular deposit of course. I am not the type that want to keep checking and tweaking this and that (maybe once a while can) Thanks what would you do? how much % of loses can you "tahan" to see invested money being 'eaten' away? what would you do? sell all before it get worse and come back to fight again some other day? |
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Jun 9 2021, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 9 2021, 11:03 PM) what happens when you checked and noticed that your investment is losing money? that's the thing , I am not sure/know what to change / tweak in that scenario ?what would you do? how much % of loses can you "tahan" to see invested money being 'eaten' away? what would you do? sell all before it get worse and come back to fight again some other day? |
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Jun 9 2021, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(yibaandre @ Jun 9 2021, 10:57 PM) hi all sifu , Definitely suitable the only difference is your risk assessment profile on which portfolio is suitable for you newbie to investment. want to ask , is StashAway suitable for ppl like me who like to put money there and just leave it ? (sort of like semi auto pilot). with regular deposit of course. I am not the type that want to keep checking and tweaking this and that (maybe once a while can) Thanks |
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Jun 9 2021, 11:14 PM
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For the manual deposit. Let's say I set RM200 goes to 1 of my portfolio. Do I have to click this transfer instructions in stashaway and confirm everytime I deposit money?
Or each time I Jompay rm200 they will just follow this instruction? What's the difference with monthly deposit settings? |
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