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post Jan 15 2020, 01:28 PM

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Pls feedback for user get this box ..
If can install AOTG with smooth operation is worth to add on

Like buy normal android box installment RM10/month
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 15 2020, 01:18 PM)
if u r right, and i think you will be... using the new box on wifi is no diff from using other box with playtv apk.

that means it is pretty useless...

it is just a 2+8gb amlogic s905x2 box... sure u can install other apps... netflix will be 480p for sure.... what for?
i am only interested in this new box to the extent (i assume) that if i use it with lan4, it will give me the 4k/hd unifitv+bbc iplayer+others if i wish.

no interest with the low grade playtv app or other apps as this can be achieved with a much cheaper box... rm160 can get 4+64gb s905x3 android9 now.
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Let's see if this new box can be used on LAN 4. I want to know too but I doubt so.
FAQ #8 -  For best streaming quality, we recommend a minimum broadband speed of 5Mbps. hmm.gif



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post Jan 15 2020, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Feliex @ Jan 15 2020, 12:24 PM)
I no think so this is a good news. Since VLAN 600 is dedicated bandwidth for unifi channel & did not mix with our main bandwidth.
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The pros for using a dedicated VLAN 600 for IPTV:

1. Dedicated bandwidth for IPTV. Very important when Unifi speed still 10-20 Mbps.

The cons of using a dedicated VLAN 600 for IPTV:

1. Need a compatible router.
2. Your STB must be connected to your router eg Port 4. If you want to put it away eg router in store room, TV on living room, you need to extend a LAN cable or use a Powerline.

As we have 100 Mbps and more with good latency, VLAN 600 is no longer necessary. Youtube & Netflix can stream 4K without problems so why not TM follow suit.
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:38 PM

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On playTV app, Love Nature HD only has bitrates lower than 1Mbps available whereas some Chinese channels that are not really in HD are available in up to 4.8Mbps. Looks like they mess up again.



QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 01:31 PM)
The pros for using a dedicated VLAN 600 for IPTV:

1. Dedicated bandwidth for IPTV. Very important when Unifi speed still 10-20 Mbps.

The cons of using a dedicated VLAN 600 for IPTV:

1. Need a compatible router.
2. Your STB must be connected to your router eg Port 4. If you want to put it away eg router in store room, TV on living room, you need to extend a LAN cable or use a Powerline.

As we have 100 Mbps and more with good latency, VLAN 600 is no longer necessary. Youtube & Netflix can stream 4K without problems so why not TM follow suit.
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Don't forget about multicast. With dedicated VLAN can use multicast so the server can easily provide high bitrate channels to many users simultaneously without congestion. Dedicated VLAN also has guaranteed quality of service unlike Internet which is best effort.
Can't compare with Netflix and YouTube. Their bitrates are not high quality enough (can still see banding and microblocking often) and they sometimes buffer.

This post has been edited by AV_2018: Jan 15 2020, 01:41 PM
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 01:31 PM)
As we have 100 Mbps and more with good latency, VLAN 600 is no longer necessary. Youtube & Netflix can stream 4K without problems so why not TM follow suit.
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this is an excellent point, everybody is asking.

why unifitv (and astri) is so slow in going HD and 4K over internet/wifi when so many others have done it, even dd5.1 audio and works smoothly?

there can only be one answer - they want CONTROL of their best quality stuff - with their own decoders, STBs... to block/minimize piracy.

unlike netlflix which probably has spent billions in developing their own security and blocks, the others are still babies learning how to do it or no money to do it.
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Jan 15 2020, 01:38 PM)
On playTV app, Love Nature HD only has bitrates lower than 1Mbps available whereas some Chinese channels that are not really in HD are available in up to 4.8Mbps. Looks like they mess up again.
Don't forget about multicast. With dedicated VLAN can use multicast so the server can easily provide high bitrate channels to many users simultaneously without congestion. Dedicated VLAN also has guaranteed quality of service unlike Internet which is best effort.
Can't compare with Netflix and YouTube. Their bitrates are not high quality enough (can still see banding and microblocking often) and they sometimes buffer.
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Very true back when our Internet is still 10-20 MBps. Nowadays, with high bandwidth/low latency/CDNs, not so much. I still choose the convenience to put the STB anywhere over dedicated LAN cable requirement for old STB.

Content also matters alot. Not all movies/shows are native 4K. Many still upscaled 1080p. Older Chinese movies on SCM channel look DVD/VCD quality to me tongue.gif iTunes 4K probably still the best out there.
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 15 2020, 01:40 PM)
this is an excellent point, everybody is asking.

why unifitv (and astri) is so slow in going HD and 4K over internet/wifi when so many others have done it, even dd5.1 audio and works smoothly?

there can only be one answer - they want CONTROL of their best quality stuff - with their own decoders, STBs... to block/minimize piracy.

unlike netlflix which probably has spent billions in developing their own security and blocks, the others are still babies learning how to do it or no money to do it.
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I'm afraid TM will make their 4K content exclusive to their new STB only. Is Astro 4K available without using Astro Ultra STB?
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:07 PM

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Done purchase rm 10 per month unifi tv plus box
thru 100 select 4 (sales and marketing)

Thank You Tm
Will receive it in 3 days

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Done purchase rm 10 per month unifi tv plus box
thru 100 select 4 (sales and marketing)

Thank You Tm
Will receive it in 3 days
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 02:02 PM)
I'm afraid TM will make their 4K content exclusive to their new STB only. Is Astro 4K available without using Astro Ultra STB?
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Some astro HD channels are not available on non-HD STB isn't it?
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Jan 15 2020, 02:08 PM)
Some astro HD channels are not available on non-HD STB isn't it?
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So far my AOTG shows all channels on Astro STB (still old one) back at kampung. But this is basic package + Malay channels. Not sure for HBO / Supersports.
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post Jan 15 2020, 02:48 PM

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dia mcm nie contract package tak berubah
contract kita dgn unifi tv box plus tu yg kita ikat contract 24 bulan ..
rm 10 x 24 bulan mcm tu harga dia around rm 240 tak masuk sst
so if kita nk terminate unifi tv box plus kita kene bayar remaining bulan x rm 10 itu je ... according to Tm 100 sales marketing
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 01:58 PM)
Content also matters alot. Not all movies/shows are native 4K. Many still upscaled 1080p. Older Chinese movies on SCM channel look DVD/VCD quality to me tongue.gif iTunes 4K probably still the best out there.
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the SCM movies of unifitv (worse with playtv) are not in HD alto they claim.

if u had ever watched the same SCM stuff that originates from taiwan/hong kong/china, u will see the diff - those are in HD.

quite sure it is just unifi not paying the higher price for HD but just 576/540 but call it hd.

QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 02:34 PM)
So far my AOTG shows all channels on Astro STB (still old one) back at kampung. But this is basic package + Malay channels. Not sure for HBO / Supersports.
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aotg, to me, has improved a lot in the last 2 years.

alto there isn't any 4k content, the HD ones are good enough, a couple of notches better than the "hd" of playtv.

some the best ones incl aec, afn, fn, iqiyi, celestial hd are excellent - video is as good as netflix hd, imo. supersports also good enough.
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(dannielshazmeer @ Jan 15 2020, 02:48 PM)
dia mcm nie contract package tak berubah
contract kita dgn unifi tv box plus tu yg kita ikat contract 24 bulan ..
rm 10 x 24 bulan mcm tu harga dia around rm 240 tak masuk sst
so if kita nk terminate unifi tv box plus kita kene bayar remaining bulan x rm 10 itu je ... according to Tm 100 sales marketing
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what happen after 24 months? do we still need to continue to pay?
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(chinonet @ Jan 15 2020, 04:38 PM)
what happen after 24 months? do we still need to continue to pay?
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after 24 month .. unifi plus tv box will be belong to user

same like easy phone celcom / maxis / digi purchase using installment every month after 24 month phone will belongs to us
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 15 2020, 03:08 PM)
the SCM movies of unifitv (worse with playtv) are not in HD alto they claim.

if u had ever watched the same SCM stuff that originates from taiwan/hong kong/china, u will see the diff - those are in HD.

quite sure it is just unifi not paying the higher price for HD but just 576/540 but call it hd.
aotg, to me, has improved a lot in the last 2 years.

alto there isn't any 4k content, the HD ones are good enough, a couple of notches better than the "hd" of playtv.

some the best ones incl aec, afn, fn, iqiyi, celestial hd are excellent - video is as good as netflix hd, imo. supersports also good enough.
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Curse you TM for downgrading SCM ranting.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 03:54 PM)
Curse you TM for downgrading SCM ranting.gif
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Not only SCM. Almost all if not all Chinese channels are in SD. I already mentioned here long ago. Already try complain TM also but still SD until now. Even the NOW channels that are in HD long ago become SD.
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:40 PM

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Apparently getting the Plus box also renews your Unifi TV subscription for 24 months!

So it's not just rm10 for the box.

This post has been edited by kkm: Jan 15 2020, 04:42 PM
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(dannielshazmeer @ Jan 15 2020, 02:48 PM)
dia mcm nie contract package tak berubah
contract kita dgn unifi tv box plus tu yg kita ikat contract 24 bulan ..
rm 10 x 24 bulan mcm tu harga dia around rm 240 tak masuk sst
so if kita nk terminate unifi tv box plus kita kene bayar remaining bulan x rm 10 itu je ... according to Tm 100 sales marketing
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QUOTE(kkm @ Jan 15 2020, 04:40 PM)
Apparently getting the Plus box also renews your Unifi TV subscription for 24 months!

So it's not just rm10 for the box.
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So which one is correct? hmm.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 06:32 PM

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will this box have a way to extract the apk file of unifi tv so other box can play it too?
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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:52 PM)
So which one is correct?  hmm.gif
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Well, I just finished live chat with TM agent, I was told it's 24 months contract for BOTH box and Unifi tv subscription!

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