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post Jan 15 2020, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(kkm @ Jan 15 2020, 06:38 PM)
Well, I just finished live chat with TM agent, I was told it's 24 months contract for BOTH box and Unifi tv subscription!
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https://unifi.com.my/plus-box/doc/frequentl...fi-plus-box.pdf
for existing user :
Change plan to unifi 300Mbps with Ultimate TV pack at promotional price of RM199 24-months .

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post Jan 15 2020, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Jan 15 2020, 01:16 PM)
To some extent, if it's true that the new Unifi Plus Box no longer uses VLAN 600, then it's a good news.
I know VLAN can have dedicated bandwidth just for Unifi IPTV service, but at the same time, it causes lots of complicated configuration on the router and their side just to be able to use Unifi TV service.
After all, now Unifi has 100Mbps, 300Mbps.... up to 800Mbps speeds, so in my opinion, don't have that VLAN also never mind.

Talking about "mixing" your main Internet speed package, theoretically in my opinion, TM's side can put an exception on bandwidth utilisation on Unifi TV service, so that it won't slow down your main Internet bandwidth whenever you watch Unifi TV.
After all, the fibre cable that enters to your home can actually support more than 1Gbps. It only up to the ISP like TM, whether they wanna provide you that kind of speeds or not.
Let say you subscribed to 100Mbps, and now while you download/upload stuff and it fully utilises 100Mbps, you also watch a UHD channel on Unifi TV (e.g. Love Nature 4K),
Even if you combine both, it's still a lot more unutilised bandwidth remaining that the fibre cable can handle.

If Unifi TV are confident that its Unifi TV streaming service can be very stable even without VLAN (you could say, as stable as similar like Netflix), then it's fine actually...

This is kinda similar like what Astro Go is doing. OTT platform seem less complicated than IPTV platform, don't you think?

So if it's true that if Unifi TV don't uses VLAN, hmm, does it mean Unifi TV service:
-can easily access to Unifi TV service even on WiFi connection, similar like what Streamyx customer enjoy previously?
-can be accessed through other ISPs such as Maxis Fibre, TIME Fibre, and even 4G, 5G cellular, since it can work even without VLAN?
-Unifi TV is in transition to OTT platform, and slowly moving away from IPTV platform?
-sooner or later, no more having that "LAN 4 port" restriction, hence user can connect to any LAN ports on the router?
-will work just fine either on WiFi or LAN connection. So if customer worry it'll slow down the overall WiFi speed, customer can always go for LAN cable connection just like now...?

If you pay close attention enough, nowadays Astro don't advertise much on their Astro IPTV service, but more focused on "Astro & Broadband" offerings.
Hmm, IPTV is slowly becoming a dying trend/sunset technology in Malaysia, and moving towards OTT platform?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 01:31 PM)
The pros for using a dedicated VLAN 600 for IPTV:

1. Dedicated bandwidth for IPTV. Very important when Unifi speed still 10-20 Mbps.

The cons of using a dedicated VLAN 600 for IPTV:

1. Need a compatible router.
2. Your STB must be connected to your router eg Port 4. If you want to put it away eg router in store room, TV on living room, you need to extend a LAN cable or use a Powerline.

As we have 100 Mbps and more with good latency, VLAN 600 is no longer necessary. Youtube & Netflix can stream 4K without problems so why not TM follow suit.
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i lazy to talk about packet tracer things, but the easier way to said is:

An ETS train direct from JB to Perlis is more FASTER compare to ETS train (JB to Perlis) but it will stop at the Major State station to fetch on/off other customer.

QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Jan 15 2020, 01:38 PM)
On playTV app, Love Nature HD only has bitrates lower than 1Mbps available whereas some Chinese channels that are not really in HD are available in up to 4.8Mbps. Looks like they mess up again.
Don't forget about multicast. With dedicated VLAN can use multicast so the server can easily provide high bitrate channels to many users simultaneously without congestion. Dedicated VLAN also has guaranteed quality of service unlike Internet which is best effort.
Can't compare with Netflix and YouTube. Their bitrates are not high quality enough (can still see banding and microblocking often) and they sometimes buffer.
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I Agree with your point thumbsup.gif

This post has been edited by Feliex: Jan 15 2020, 08:20 PM
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post Jan 15 2020, 08:53 PM

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Done purchase rm 10 per month unifi tv plus box
thru 100 select 4 (sales and marketing)

Thank You Tm
Will receive it in 3 days

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Done purchase rm 10 per month unifi tv plus box
thru 100 select 4 (sales and marketing)

Thank You Tm
Will receive it in 3 days
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3 days mean this saturday, same as mine.
did the telemarker set technician appointment for you?

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post Jan 15 2020, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Feliex @ Jan 15 2020, 08:09 PM)
i lazy to talk about packet tracer things, but the easier way to said is:

An ETS train direct from JB to Perlis is more FASTER compare to ETS train (JB to Perlis) but it will stop at the Major State station to fetch on/off other customer.
I Agree with your point  :thumbsup:
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Dedicated IPTV infra still has benefits, but for majority of people where Youtube/Netflix is good enough, OTT is OK. More convenient to be able to put the STB anywhere in the house, without having to pull network cable from router.

My own experience of putting the white STB at living room, where router & BTU is in store room. Can't move router to living room. Powerline not very stable. Wifi no go. Don't want to pull another network cable. End up using VLAN trunk just to accomodate that STB. This is my point of convenience over top quality, like DSLRs vs smartphones.
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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 08:58 PM)
Dedicated IPTV infra still has benefits, but for majority of people where Youtube/Netflix is good enough, OTT is OK.  More convenient to be able to put the STB anywhere in the house, without having to pull network cable from router.

My own experience of putting the white STB at living room, where router & BTU is in store room. Can't move router to living room. Powerline not very stable. Wifi no go. Don't want to pull another network cable. End up using VLAN trunk just to accomodate that STB. This is my point of convenience over top quality, like DSLRs vs smartphones.
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need to cap on the download speed when downloading something that can suck all you bandwidth or later wifus will scream why the tv stuck
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QUOTE(AMstrong @ Jan 15 2020, 09:13 PM)
need to cap on the download speed when downloading something that can suck all you bandwidth or later wifus will scream why the tv stuck
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I'm on 500 Mbps so no need for bandwidth cap / QOS 😁

On a good router, your download speed is simply decreased abit to accommodate streaming by wifus.

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post Jan 15 2020, 09:35 PM

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For those getting the new Unifi Plus box, the rest of us will be waiting for your review biggrin.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 09:20 PM)
I'm on 500 Mbps so no need for bandwidth cap / QOS 😁

On a good router, your download speed is simply decreased abit to accommodate streaming by wifus.
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not all user have those highspeed and good routher. many are still on 30Mbps and stock unifi router.
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I have ordered the Unifi Plus Box this evening. The agent says average 10 days to get.
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saw this on playstore (using mibox s).. rclxm9.gif i proceed with the install... then after install.. shit lah... sweat.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(chinonet @ Jan 15 2020, 09:59 PM)
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saw this on playstore (using mibox s)..  rclxm9.gif  i proceed with the install... then after install.. shit lah...  sweat.gif
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that app is v1.2.10 for new users or those migrated.

did u try older v7.9.8 or 7.9.11?
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QUOTE(AMstrong @ Jan 15 2020, 09:36 PM)
not all user have those highspeed and good routher. many are still on 30Mbps and stock unifi router.
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You can still use the old STB. 30 Mbps almost certainly not enough for 24/7 4K streaming.

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post Jan 15 2020, 10:22 PM

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post Jan 15 2020, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 15 2020, 10:14 PM)
that app is v1.2.10 for new users or those migrated.

did u try older v7.9.8 or 7.9.11?
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this is ver1.1.1 specifically for android tv..

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this image below (i presume) is the interface used in the new box..

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post Jan 15 2020, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(chinonet @ Jan 15 2020, 10:48 PM)
this is ver1.1.1 specifically for android tv..

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this image below (i presume) is the interface used in the new box..

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this is new... interesting.

where did u find the app - in yr mibox s playstore?
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 15 2020, 11:04 PM)
this is new... interesting.

where did u find the app - in yr mibox s playstore?
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yup.. unfortunately the app is not working on a so called "non-unifi" certified box.. and may never be i guess.. else they would rugi not being able to get user to migrate to their new package..
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 15 2020, 11:04 PM)
this is new... interesting.

where did u find the app - in yr mibox s playstore?
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i can find it in normal ATV playstore also
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(chinonet @ Jan 15 2020, 10:48 PM)
this is ver1.1.1 specifically for android tv..

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this image below (i presume) is the interface used in the new box..

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If you are subscribe to Unifi TV ultimate pack then try login into BBC Player app which is available for Android TV since Oct 2019..

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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post Jan 15 2020, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Jan 15 2020, 11:17 PM)
If you are subscribe to Unifi TV ultimate pack then try login into BBC Player app which is available for Android TV since Oct 2019..

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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i cant find BCC Player app on my ATV, when browse playstore via PC, its said that my ATV are not compatible
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QUOTE(AMstrong @ Jan 15 2020, 11:16 PM)
i can find it in normal ATV playstore also
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Yes, it is there in ATV playstore.... but same, not working.

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