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dannyw
post Jan 14 2019, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 14 2019, 04:47 PM)
Not yet, that Amaron unit has not pancut just yet.

I don't think the sign of overflowing water is a good thing, as that disrupts the chemical composition inside overtime rendering that unit being unstable. If it's overflowing of milk & honey 🍯 yes but since it's water 💦 pouring out of the Amaron, caveat emptor, I think.

If I was in your shoe, I will find ways to push back in all that water 💦 that's flowing out OR it's going to the Medic in no time.
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Not much actually, just can see especially morning.

I bring back to the shop, they say is fine, test the battery all good.

Under warranty so didn't plan to take off the sticker.

Now become like little white powder. (photo taken last year)


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post Jan 14 2019, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 14 2019, 05:01 PM)
That's really not good. By the way, how long was the warranty, therain01 ?
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I remember seller told me 12 months. Bought it around rm300 for a 55D23L. No proof of purchase anyway.
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post Jan 14 2019, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jan 14 2019, 05:24 PM)
Not much actually, just can see especially morning.

I bring back to the shop, they say is fine, test the battery all good.

Under warranty so didn't plan to take off the sticker.

Now become like little white powder. (photo taken last year)
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That is not good if the acid touch your car body.

BTW, white powder over terminal is also not a good sign. Poor contact, under charge, overcharge all result to white power.
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post Jan 14 2019, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Jan 14 2019, 05:28 PM)
That is not good if the acid touch your car body.

BTW, white powder over terminal is also not a good sign. Poor contact, under charge, overcharge all result to white power.
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Not on terminal, is on the water stain part. I just notice recently. As I use to wipe off the water, but after sometimes, lazy to border, then only notice become white powder.

So what should i do? can claim warranty?
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post Jan 14 2019, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jan 14 2019, 05:32 PM)
Not on terminal, is on the water stain part. I just notice recently. As I use to wipe off the water, but after sometimes, lazy to border, then only notice become white powder.

So what should i do? can claim warranty?
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Well I think you should try to claim but I doubt seller would honor it. I used to have a battery which does leak and I never insist on replacement. In the end the acid overflow to the extend that it rust the car body and gearbox.

Battery should be water tight. Extra pressure or gas should escape from vent holes only.
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post Jan 14 2019, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Jan 14 2019, 05:25 PM)
I remember seller told me 12 months. Bought it around rm300 for a 55D23L. No proof of purchase anyway.
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My is 16 months, depends on model.

QUOTE(therain01 @ Jan 14 2019, 06:17 PM)
Well I think you should try to claim but I doubt seller would honor it. I used to have a battery which does leak and I never insist on replacement. In the end the acid overflow to the extend that it rust the car body and gearbox.

Battery should be water tight. Extra pressure or gas should escape from vent holes only.
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So serious? Leak out until drop to body part! Means a lot of water?
My one not that bad actually, is just a bit. Dry off when drive or hot sun. The dry part is just stain & some dust, not white powder.

I try snap photo to show tomorrow.
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post Jan 14 2019, 08:05 PM

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Whoa back up there a bit men, Dannyw & Therain01.

Dannyw, yours 16 months under warranty &
Therain, your warranty is for 12 months said the reseller without any proof of documentation.

Was it Amaron that practices uniform warranty period for all its batteries or different warrant periods for different battery models ?
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post Jan 14 2019, 08:10 PM

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Irregardless of the situation Dannyw, if I were you I would suit up and remove that battery for some serious cleaning on the external body only and thereafter wipe down & let it air dry. Clean off the terminals & post too.

Plus inspect immediately the areas around the bottom of the battery holder for signs of damages. Remove the holder if possible.

Dirty surfaces leads to surface discharge which will slowly kill off your battery. Maintaining the cleanliness of battery is important unless you wish to keep changing batteries before or immediately after each warranty period.

Another thing that I've learnt in life is to never believe wholeheartedly everything the seller says. I am better off checking everything that I am told.

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post Jan 14 2019, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 14 2019, 08:05 PM)
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Was it Amaron that practices uniform warranty period for all its batteries or different warrant periods for different battery models ?
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No, Amaron has different warranty duration for different models.
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post Jan 14 2019, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 14 2019, 09:15 PM)
No, Amaron has different warranty duration for different models.
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Thank you so much 6UE5T for clearing that up. Then, I must have errorneously mixed up with the warranties of other brands. That's the problem of reading too much.
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post Jan 15 2019, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 14 2019, 08:10 PM)
Irregardless of the situation Dannyw, if I were you I would suit up and remove that battery for some serious cleaning on the external body only and thereafter wipe down & let it air dry. Clean off the terminals & post too.

Plus inspect immediately the areas around the bottom of the battery holder for signs of damages. Remove the holder if possible.

Dirty surfaces leads to surface discharge which will slowly kill off your battery. Maintaining the cleanliness of battery is important unless you wish to keep changing batteries before or immediately after each warranty period.

Another thing that I've learnt in life is to never believe wholeheartedly everything the seller says. I am better off checking everything that I am told.
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Today photo. No more leak, but the from the sticker surrounding can tell it leak before.

Battery performance still good, maybe will arrange a visit to the shop see what the seller say.


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post Jan 15 2019, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jan 15 2019, 07:57 AM)
Today photo. No more leak, but the from the sticker surrounding can tell it leak before.

Battery performance still good, maybe will arrange a visit to the shop see what the seller say.
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At the moment the unit may still be good, it may not look that dirty to you or any of us but dirty conditions on the unit causes it to deteriorate overtime.

If you intent on prolonging its lifespan then keeping it clean is a must. However if you are not particular and don't mind about replacing with a new battery after it's warranty period, then it's all right too.

Seriously you may want to check what's cooking under the battery holder & probably clean that out too, if you intend on keeping the vehicle, otherwise bless the new owner.

I presume that you should know what to do with cleaning the battery out and you have the proper gear & stuffs to accomplish the job. Safety is always the highest priority.

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post Jan 15 2019, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jan 15 2019, 07:57 AM)
Today photo. .....
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Hi Dannyw, may I ask how did you attached the Thumbnail picture into your post ? Pretty cool.

After obtaining the owner's permission, I intend to clean out the owner's Amaron unit and post the before & after pictures.
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post Jan 15 2019, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jan 15 2019, 07:57 AM)
Today photo. No more leak, but the from the sticker surrounding can tell it leak before.

Battery performance still good, maybe will arrange a visit to the shop see what the seller say.
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Looking at the picture, doesn't seem possibly like a leak as the acid will definitely have corrosion marks over the plastic cover, unlikely that the casing itself is made of PVDF (impervious to acid).

I would hazard guess it would be some rain/puddle water puddle splash or the vapour condensation that likes to accumulate on your battery top...
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post Jan 15 2019, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 15 2019, 10:25 AM)
At the moment the unit may still be good, it may not look that dirty to you or any of us but dirty conditions on the unit causes it to deteriorate overtime.

If you intent on prolonging its lifespan then keeping it clean is a must. However if you are not particular and don't mind about replacing with a new battery after it's warranty period, then it's all right too.

Seriously you may want to check what's cooking under the battery holder & probably clean that out too, if you intend on keeping the vehicle, otherwise bless the new owner.

I presume that you should know what to do with cleaning the battery out and you have the proper gear & stuffs to accomplish the job. Safety is always the highest priority.
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Well, I have no tools, and not expert in this. Will check it out when have chance.

Thanks for the advice!

QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 15 2019, 10:41 AM)
Hi Dannyw, may I ask how did you attached the Thumbnail picture into your post ? Pretty cool.

After obtaining the owner's permission, I intend to clean out the owner's Amaron unit and post the before & after pictures.
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There is the 'Attachments' function on the Reply. Check it out!

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post Jan 15 2019, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jan 14 2019, 05:24 PM)
Not much actually, just can see especially morning.

I bring back to the shop, they say is fine, test the battery all good.

Under warranty so didn't plan to take off the sticker.

Now become like little white powder. (photo taken last year)
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jan 15 2019, 10:43 AM)
Looking at the picture, doesn't seem possibly like a leak as the acid will definitely have corrosion marks over the plastic cover, unlikely that the casing itself is made of PVDF (impervious to acid).

I would hazard guess it would be some rain/puddle water puddle splash or the vapour condensation that likes to accumulate on your battery top...
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Thanks for your info. If refer to my previous photo, i can see the water is surrounding the sticker, especially overnight when the weather is cold.

If not water leak out, then water from external stay there? hmm.gif maybe like you say is condensation.

Last time when I use Century also have a little bit out on the sticker, that's why i assume is normal when there is a little bit out. As long not too much, and no effect the battery performance is ok.
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post Jan 15 2019, 12:14 PM

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What a pity, the owner of the Amaron battery that I wanted to clean, didn't want the battery to be cleaned. I was like ??? That because according to the owner the batteries had never been cleaned before and it's pointless cleaning it, since all battery last to its warranted lifespan.

Well at least I can monitor under such conditions how long will that Amaron last. Anyway will try to take a picture of that Amaron with gunk & goo all around.

Maybe the owner has been conditioned to think that batteries can only last for that specific time period & no longer. sad.gif

It would be really good if battery shops etc had this as an extra service for its clients, to clean the battery and inspect the battery holder surrounding areas. Instead of take out & replace with new battery service & that's it.

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post Jan 16 2019, 12:03 AM

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DESIGN RECOMMENDATION FOR BATTERY MANUFACTURERS

In view of cases wherein the acid overflows the vents, perhaps this could resolve the issue corrosion by changing the design on the top surface of the battery instead.

Let there be an indentation wherein all the battery caps lines up something similar to a lowered level in the center. So should there be an overflow, the acid would remain contain or captured inside the indentation or lowered level. Thus saving the vehicle from unnecessary damages.




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post Jan 16 2019, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 14 2019, 09:15 PM)
No, Amaron has different warranty duration for different models.
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And from what I heard, different distributor in Malaysia and both offer different pricing with different warranty period (obviously the extra months warranty will be more expensive)
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post Jan 16 2019, 12:59 AM

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The seller told me that his customers have complained that amaron has signed of evaporazing around the top seals. It doesn't look pretty but shouldn't affect the performance of the battery.

I had a choice of a 800 varta to a 500 amaron and i went with amaron because: -

- been using it and it is good so far.
- 500 amaron might last me over 3 years, no guarantee a varta will last me 5 years.
- year to year costs, amaron is cheaper. Please correct me if i am wrong.


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