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post Jan 25 2019, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 16 2019, 12:36 AM)
And from what I heard, different distributor in Malaysia and both offer different pricing with different warranty period (obviously the extra months warranty will be more expensive)
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Very true,bro. I just checked with Amaron's dealer in Penang.
Different tyre shops, different pricing and warranty period with reference to models as well.
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post Jan 25 2019, 06:00 PM

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Double post, sorry.

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post Jan 25 2019, 06:01 PM

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I don't know about you guys but all these while I was under the impression that automotive batteries are made in large factories with proper equipments etc.

What I saw today just blew my mind. Out from the back of the shop lot, they workers brought batteries clean and unmarked whatsoever to be charged. It was then the batteryman ended my conversation with him to attend to these "new batteries" that unnamed and unmarked etc.

Surely there's a market for such batteries but as to what name it's marketed under, now that is something I will try to find that one out.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 25 2019, 06:01 PM)
I don't know about you guys but all these while I was under the impression that automotive batteries are made in large factories with proper equipments etc.

What I saw today just blew my mind. Out from the back of the shop lot, they workers brought batteries clean and unmarked whatsoever to be charged. It was then the batteryman ended my conversation with him to attend to these "new batteries" that unnamed and unmarked etc.

Surely there's a market for such batteries but as to what name it's marketed under, now that is something I will try to find that one out.
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Kat Msia semua boleh, bro...sigh!
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post Jan 25 2019, 07:06 PM

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Just checking with you guys who have experience with car battery charger. Whether it is Bosch, CTEK, or Noco. Can share your thoughts & reviews regarding the products?
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post Jan 25 2019, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Jan 25 2019, 06:59 PM)
Kat Msia semua boleh, bro...sigh!
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I memang terkejut nampak batteri bateri yg ditolak atas trolley bawa ke depan dimana ada industrial charger mereka. I've always assume from big factories, mana tau shop lot boleh jadi production center ! Steady bugger, mana tau maybe cap "......." boleh tahan berapa lama ? Kalau tak silap, 1 forummer here somewhere pernah tulis cap "Ayam" brand lebih baik daripada brand famous.

Betul u cakap, kat Msia ini semua boleh .... tapi hanya satu benda aje tak boleh, kadar pertukaran wang asing.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 25 2019, 08:36 PM)
I memang terkejut nampak batteri bateri yg ditolak atas trolley bawa ke depan dimana ada industrial charger mereka. I've always assume from big factories, mana tau shop lot boleh jadi production center ! Steady bugger, mana tau maybe cap "......." boleh tahan berapa lama ? Kalau tak silap, 1 forummer here somewhere pernah tulis cap "Ayam" brand lebih baik daripada brand famous.

Betul u cakap, kat Msia ini semua boleh .... tapi hanya satu benda aje tak boleh, kadar pertukaran wang asing.
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tu sebab wang asing la! kalau wang tempatan sure boleh punya! hahaha lol
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post Jan 26 2019, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Jan 25 2019, 09:44 PM)
tu sebab wang asing la! kalau wang tempatan sure boleh punya! hahaha lol
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Meter sarcasm u banyak kuat. LOL Betul kalau ikut cakap wang tempatan boleh punya .... boleh turun lagi loh .... LOL

Ini saya ta rak paham, ahli politik no rasa malu meh susut nilai matawang ? Ada pulak ahli politik yang bangga pulak dengan susutan nilai !!! 😳
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post Jan 26 2019, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(hnr2802 @ Jan 25 2019, 07:06 PM)
Just checking with you guys who have experience with car battery charger. Whether it is Bosch, CTEK, or Noco. Can share your thoughts & reviews regarding the products?
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I think if any person who is most appropriate to give their reviews on the above battery chargers should be the one who has owned all of the above models. Only then will the reviews be fair.

Never heard of Noco battery charger before but thank you. Will find out more about Noco.

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post Jan 29 2019, 05:47 PM

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LOW MAINTENANCE BATTERIES DON'T LEAK ???

Well if that is true for you then you must be lucky after all this while. Couldn't believe what I just saw when a friend of mine asked for assistance.

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post Jan 30 2019, 09:10 AM

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I've always used Century but my latest Century that less than 3 months can't even hold its charge, dropping to mere 70%.

A new battery must be able to hold its charge no matter what, since ISO so naturally I would assume it should be all the same otherwise it's a fault. For that Ive retracted my vote for Century.

UPDATE

Battery Brand (Seal of Approval)
1. Varta (5 votes)
2. Century (3 votes)
3. Panasonic (1 vote: MF - Stock)

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post Jan 30 2019, 09:18 AM

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No Amaron battery in the list?

i using Amaron maintenance free battery for my '06 Vios, battery date Jan 2015.

Just replaced my Myvi battery to Amaron too.

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post Jan 30 2019, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Zeroize @ Jan 30 2019, 09:18 AM)
No Amaron battery in the list?

i using Amaron maintenance free battery for my '06 Vios, battery date Jan 2015.

Just replaced my Myvi battery to Amaron too.
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You must be one of the first Amaron user I guess. smile.gif Ok will add Amaron to the list.

Once I get my battery Analyzer & battery Charger instead of checking out testimonials only, I am going to start conducting various tests throughout my community and their batteries. That should give me a better analysis of what's good & what's crap.

I believe as customers when we purchase better built quality items, manufacturers with good practices will remain in the industry and weed out bad practices.

However when customers starts selecting for the cheapest on the shelf, it signals to the manufacturers that quality is NOT priority, hence the market will be flooded with all kinds of crap and manufacturers with good practices will find it hard to compete.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 29 2019, 05:47 PM)
LOW MAINTENANCE BATTERIES DON'T LEAK ???

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MF batteries don't need to top up water like regular batteries, that's the main feature. All else, the construction is exactly the same like normal lead acid batteries and can leak due to abuse, especially too much vibration or improper charging which leads to too much gas buildup.

QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 30 2019, 09:56 AM)
I believe as customers when we purchase better built quality items, manufacturers with good practices will remain in the industry and weed out bad practices.

However when customers starts selecting for the cheapest on the shelf, it signals to the manufacturers that quality is NOT priority, hence the market will be flooded with all kinds of crap and manufacturers with good practices will find it hard to compete.
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The problem is there isn't a watch dog group that sets the minimum standards, hence any cap ayam also can sell. If need to get properly certified, many unknown brands will vanish.

Voting with the wallets always leads to the race to the bottom, but the damage could not be undone in some circumstances. That's why in europe, for example, no CE rating on product, langsung tak boleh masuk market. However, still got people tipu say the product meet CE standards but in actual fact is not.

The fallback will be that, established markets have their own norms of minimum standards even without specific regulations, their collective conscious will self regulate (especially european countries; US is pretty greyish). But that is a whole new topic altogether....

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 30 2019, 09:56 AM)
You must be one of the first Amaron user I guess. smile.gif Ok will add Amaron to the list.

Once I get my battery Analyzer & battery Charger instead of checking out testimonials only, I am going to start conducting various tests throughout my community and their batteries. That should give me a better analysis of what's good & what's crap.

I believe as customers when we purchase better built quality items, manufacturers with good practices will remain in the industry and weed out bad practices.

However when customers starts selecting for the cheapest on the shelf, it signals to the manufacturers that quality is NOT priority, hence the market will be flooded with all kinds of crap and manufacturers with good practices will find it hard to compete.
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Darn right, price is one important factor. At first i also hesitate to go for Amaron brand as price is slightly higher but I have friend have been using it for more than 3 years hence i gave it a try, now mine lasted more than 4 years and still using, my mechanic did told me since the battery is already more than 3 years if one day I find my car hard to start, got to replace battery immediately.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 29 2019, 05:47 PM)
LOW MAINTENANCE BATTERIES DON'T LEAK ???

Well if that is true for you then you must be lucky after all this while. Couldn't believe what I just saw when a friend of mine asked for assistance.

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Here's the bottom part ...,

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Most probably the battery's electrolyte is over filled... During the 1st time charging. Take out the battery, clean the affected area & reapply the paint to protect from corrosions.
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QUOTE(hnr2802 @ Jan 25 2019, 07:06 PM)
Just checking with you guys who have experience with car battery charger. Whether it is Bosch, CTEK, or Noco. Can share your thoughts & reviews regarding the products?
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Noco chargers seem like a rugged up version of ctek. The main differentiating feature is the ability to also charge lithium batteries which normal bosch and ctek charger have a dedicated lithium charger. All else being quite similar, all have some sort of circuit/overcharging protection and some elemental resistance.

Only some dedicated enthusiast or motorsport application will use lithium batteries. So all 3 brands will work fine with the cars available locally, just choose which one you fancy.
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post Jan 30 2019, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Zeroize @ Jan 30 2019, 11:24 AM)
Darn right, price is one important factor.  At first i also hesitate to go for Amaron brand as price is slightly higher but I have friend have been using it for more than 3 years hence i gave it a try, now mine lasted more than 4 years and still using, my mechanic did told me since the battery is already more than 3 years if one day I find my car hard to start, got to replace battery immediately.
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If the car is without modern day electronics there's nothing to lose, I guess.

But if it's equipped with modern day electronics etc & it gets damaged because of weakening or dead battery, then it becomes an expensive lesson altogether.

If I were in your shoes, I would be extra vigilant now onwards as it has breached the 4 year lifespan mark. I am interested to know how long would your Amaron lasts too & good luck.

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last time i used century marathoner only last me about 10 months then I claimed warranty but managed to last another 10 months again then I changed car d
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jan 30 2019, 11:30 AM)
Most probably the battery's electrolyte is over filled... During the 1st time charging. Take out the battery, clean the affected area & reapply the paint to protect from corrosions.
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I've never expected the "factory" to ever make such a mistake with a Low Maintenance Battery, but I guess it's plausible.

It's the cleaning part now that's the most difficult part. Any missed spots of rust will definately cause another round of corrosion, although it's been repainted.

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