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post Oct 14 2019, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(HippyTony @ Oct 14 2019, 07:23 PM)
Yes I agree with you. My recent experience with a cheaper battery didn’t go too well. I bought a cheaper car battery because my regular shop had no stock of a reputable battery then and offered me a cheaper brand. According to my mechanic my car climate control software glitches could have been caused by the battery. He told me don’t get such unfamiliar brand battery. Oh well lesson learned. I also learned after having the car for over 12 years my car aircond has software to manage the climate control. I’m now using FIAM battery. So far so good with the new battery and software reinstalled. He assured its a very good battery. He also gave me a volt meter to monitor the battery condition. Will give you feedback.
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My sister-in-law just informed that everytime her battery is changed, she will have to return to the Authorized Service Center because of the bad battery install, it affects the air-conditioning unit. The crazy thing is this, she thinks the bad install, is a normal thing. The battery replacement was done by a heavily promoted installer company.

Her father trusted Century, I trust Century and now she intends to go for something that is cheaper by 1/3 of a Century battery price, which appears to be an in-house brand from the heavily promoted battery installer company. Wish I could post pictures of batteries that seems to leak sulphuric acid everywhere but I can't. Penny wise, pound foolish.

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post Oct 14 2019, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Oct 14 2019, 02:42 PM)
Is that even possible for Century Marathoner battery to last until 27 months? as my battery now is at 25 months.. it sometime show sign of hard to start in the morning... not always but like 3-4 times in a month.

Any brand recommendation for honda city 2013 battery type  NS40ZL??

currently read that varta black premium NS40ZL (B19/B20) Group

34B19L - 34 Ah, 272 CCA (RM190)
42B20L - 38 Ah, 340 CCA (RM210)

varta black premium is not so good?? how about amaron GO?

any recommendation car center that provide good price?

i found is https://www.vinbattery.com/

he quote me rm 190 for amaron GO
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Amaron Go is actually the same class as Century Marathoner.

I recommend you to go for Amaron Hi-Life instead. If you want Century, get the new Century Excel. These 2 segments have higher CCA as compared to the GO / Marathoner.
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post Oct 14 2019, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 14 2019, 07:39 PM)
My sister-in-law just informed that everytime her battery is changed, she will have to return to the Authorized Service Center because of the bad battery install, it affects the air-conditioning unit. The crazy thing is this, she thinks the bad install, is a normal thing. The battery replacement was done by a heavily promoted installer company.

Her father trusted Century, I trust Century and now she intends to go for something that is cheaper by 1/3 of a Century battery price, which appears to be an in-house brand from the heavily promoted battery installer company. Wish I could post pictures of batteries that seems to leak sulphuric acid everywhere but I can't. Penny wise, pound foolish.
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My mechanic also told me not to get Varta battery as it’s no longer made in Germany. He used to stock them but not now.
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post Oct 14 2019, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(HippyTony @ Oct 14 2019, 08:00 PM)
My mechanic also told me not to get Varta battery as it’s no longer made in Gjermany. He used to stock them but not now.
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When I witnessed myself new unbranded batteries rolling out from a shoplot, bro., at that moment in time this came to mind, unless it is from a reputable & trusted source, anything and everything is possible. The effects of a failling currency. 😔

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post Oct 14 2019, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Oct 14 2019, 02:42 PM)
Is that even possible for Century Marathoner battery to last until 27 months? as my battery now is at 25 months.. it sometime show sign of hard to start in the morning... not always but like 3-4 times in a month.

Any brand recommendation for honda city 2013 battery type  NS40ZL??

currently read that varta black premium NS40ZL (B19/B20) Group

34B19L - 34 Ah, 272 CCA (RM190)
42B20L - 38 Ah, 340 CCA (RM210)

varta black premium is not so good?? how about amaron GO?

any recommendation car center that provide good price?

i found is https://www.vinbattery.com/

he quote me rm 190 for amaron GO
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Camel 18months warranty

Doesn't this make more sense? cheaper but longer warranty and higher specs.
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post Oct 15 2019, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Oct 14 2019, 09:51 PM)
Camel 18months warranty

Doesn't this make more sense? cheaper but longer warranty and higher specs.
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Yup you are right, it doesn't make any sense. Having learnt that cheap no good and good no cheap, seems like there's a catch hidden somewhere.

However with Camel being relatively new into battery business in this country, this could also be the situation, an "introductory price" period in order to build its goodwill and its customer base up.
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post Oct 15 2019, 01:36 AM

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depends on luck.
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post Oct 15 2019, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(alexchew_2020 @ Oct 15 2019, 01:36 AM)
depends on luck.
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You meant that you have tried the Camel battery ?

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post Oct 15 2019, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 14 2019, 05:48 PM)
A lady whom I am monitoring her battery, the last Century Marathoner lasted 29 months in a 1st generation Myvi. It use to last 13~14 months on average. That is an 100% improvement.

My own personal achievement with Century is 48 months but now am targeting to hit 60 months.

A forummer Veejay recently posted that his Century Marathoner lasted a cool 6 years 9 months in a Sorento !

If you are in Melaka, I could drop by see how we can improve on the lifespan if you are keen on saving. Since you want to try out other brands it is ok too.

No worries, I remember telling a friend of mine and she thought I was joking with her.

BTW, the battery that is slowly experiencing difficulty in cranking the car means that the battery is on the way out definately. However that could also mean that there might be a problem with the charging system. Get it checked out. 😊
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wow... i wonder if he drove that sorento daily or less driving period...

aww i am at klang valley... too bad it was a distance away.. cry.gif yea i was looking into how battery can at least last for min 2 yrs to 3 yrs period...

yea true that battery experiencing hard cranking mean having sign of failure soon.


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post Oct 15 2019, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 14 2019, 07:44 PM)
Amaron Go is actually the same class as Century Marathoner.

I recommend you to go for Amaron Hi-Life instead. If you want Century, get the new Century Excel. These 2 segments have higher CCA as compared to the GO / Marathoner.
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can i know which century excel model is suitable for NS40ZL ? is it 42B20L as in equivalent?? is century excel can fill in water or maintenance free??

i wonder why century come out with so many model/series without detail explanation for which type of vehicle (car,bus, lorry) for specific usage or grading of each type of battery series.
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post Oct 15 2019, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Oct 14 2019, 09:51 PM)
Camel 18months warranty

Doesn't this make more sense? cheaper but longer warranty and higher specs.
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have u tested the performance of camel battery? china product need QAQC only reliable.
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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Oct 15 2019, 09:30 AM)
wow... i wonder if he drove that sorento daily or less driving period...

aww i am at klang valley... too bad it was a distance away.. cry.gif  yea i was looking into how battery can at least last for min 2 yrs to 3 yrs period...

yea true that battery experiencing hard cranking mean having sign of failure soon.
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I presume its daily, cause my previous Century was used daily as well, in my 20 year old work horse.

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post Oct 15 2019, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(HippyTony @ Oct 14 2019, 08:00 PM)
My mechanic also told me not to get Varta battery as it’s no longer made in Germany. He used to stock them but not now.
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yea only silver series made from germany.. blue and black dynamic are in korea right?? that why i read elsewhere... usually to reduce the cost competitiveness that why some of the good material are not being use so that it last just 2 years plus to match other major brand.
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post Oct 15 2019, 09:41 AM

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varta: 3 years
century: 2.5 years and still running
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post Oct 15 2019, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Zaire.Ver @ Oct 15 2019, 09:41 AM)
varta: 3 years
century: 2.5 years and still running
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can you let me know which series of century/varta and the type of battery?

it is misleading by just telling the brand but not the series/model and battery model.. as some battery model the cranking is higher
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post Oct 15 2019, 09:57 AM

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Does higher Cold Cranking Amp (CCA) even apply in malaysia as our weather wont even drop less than 20 degree even at night time.
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post Oct 15 2019, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Oct 15 2019, 09:43 AM)
can you let me know which series of century/varta and the type of battery?

it is misleading by just telling the brand but not the series/model and battery model.. as some battery model the cranking is higher
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varta...not sure the model....it's oem from protong
century is marathoner mf
55D23L

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post Oct 15 2019, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Oct 15 2019, 09:40 AM)
yea only silver series made from germany.. blue and black dynamic are in korea right?? that why i read elsewhere... usually to reduce the cost competitiveness that why some of the good material are not being use so that it last just 2 years plus to match other major brand.
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Yup what you have written is correct. Batteries manufactured by Varta directly in Germany are able to perform much better than those manufactured under licensed elsewhere. Even batteries manufactured by Varta themselves, operating in Germany and operating in Malaysia ought to yeild different results since the climate are different and this will ultimately affect the battery's performance as well.
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post Oct 15 2019, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Oct 15 2019, 09:35 AM)
can i know which century excel model is suitable for NS40ZL ? is it 42B20L as in equivalent?? is century excel can fill in water or maintenance free??

i wonder why century come out with so many model/series without detail explanation for which type of vehicle (car,bus, lorry) for specific usage or grading of each type of battery series.
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I think they are about the same NS40ZL and 42B20L but please verify properly from whomever you are getting the battery from. Alternatively you could write to Century Battery Official Store on Lazada for confirmation.

The Century Excel model is a Maintenance Free Battery.

There are many reasons for the various model and series from higher power demand for todays modern cars, to importation of batteries of varying prices, falling exchange-rates but I guess Century's management decided to provide batteries for the majority according to the majority's budget.

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Oct 15 2019, 09:38 AM)
have u tested the performance of camel battery? china product need QAQC only reliable.
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camel is one of the larger oem suppliers, even those new proton produced geely cars, some are using it. I presume a battery plant in malaysia is in progress, news since mar'19 :
https://www.carsifu.my/news/chinas-camel-gr...oton-a-customer

No harm buying it with the warranty and price. You get 1 segment higher product compared to competition.

QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Oct 15 2019, 09:40 AM)
yea only silver series made from germany.. blue and black dynamic are in korea right?? that why i read elsewhere... usually to reduce the cost competitiveness that why some of the good material are not being use so that it last just 2 years plus to match other major brand.
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even some smaller capacity silver dynamic agm are not longer produced in germany already. Only larger capacity produced from germany, i asked a few varta sellers before regarding this information.

QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Oct 15 2019, 09:57 AM)
Does higher Cold Cranking Amp (CCA) even apply in malaysia as our weather wont even drop less than 20 degree even at night time.
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Yes and no.

The CCA does somewhat indirectly indicate the cranking ability and durability. Hence, higher CCA for the same capacity battery compared to another product, the higher CCA unit may last longer. Not absolute, but likely.

No because, we don't have cold weather as you mentioned. The lubrication system in our cars are always in a fluid state. Maybe those that live in higher mountainous areas may have a little concern on it. I remembered parking my car for 2 nights in genting, car cranked a little longer than usual and took 15 minutes of light driving for the engine cold temp dash light to turn off.

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