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post Apr 9 2019, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(8brian4 @ Apr 8 2019, 11:13 PM)
4 years..it depends how the owner/user use it
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SPOT ON bro., and that translates to battery lifespan.

It's a no brainer that a battery with more load ain't going to last as compared to one with a lesser load.

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post Apr 9 2019, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(bryan_x00 @ Apr 8 2019, 11:32 PM)
Hi what is difference between motolite classics and the normal motolite?
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Not a slightest clue on these models although I am loyal Century customer. I've noticed Century has a Service Center along the Federal Highway and I am sure they can answer any questions. I"m extremely that sure it wasn't there when I stayed nearby that area.

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post Apr 9 2019, 09:53 AM

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The initial idea of creating this thread was to collect data from everyone whose batteries that had lasted for more than 4 years but Jessieccy was correct. It's pointless since everyone's battery management is completely different. Hence I've stopped collecting such data.

On the other hand, I've began collaborating with others unconsciously within my community in order to advance our battery management with Century batteries.

My own Regular Flooded lasted 48 months, current target now is 60 months.

Other MF Marathoner lasted 29 months, current target now is 36 months.

Journeying together maximizing battery lifespan is far more enriching. My only condition is that no third party is allowed to touch the battery, just the owner & myself.

Someone wrote earlier if I was a promoter for Century, it would be good if I was, but then again which battery company would want someone like me teaching others how to get the best bang for their buck ! I am just bad for their sales. 🤣🤣🤣

There's another brand Panasonic Regular Flooded which came new with the car and that battery is now 28 months. Will see how this goes.

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post Apr 9 2019, 11:16 AM

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Normally if you send your car to a workshop for repair works you can see the mechanic's turning your engine on and off to diagnose diff things.
This surely drains quite a lot of power right?

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post Apr 9 2019, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(filage @ Apr 9 2019, 11:16 AM)
Normally if you send your car to a workshop for repair works you can see the mechanic's turning your engine on and off to diagnose diff things.
This surely drains quite a lot of power right?
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In Post #320, the report shows that battery was at 12.82V and it was tested again this morning with a reading 12.94V.

Conducting a correct battery test procedure hardly drains the battery when the system is in perfect condition.
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post Apr 13 2019, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(zaly @ Apr 6 2019, 08:36 PM)
Varta 90ah come from manufacturer (German Made) can last for 6 year for my BMW but after changed another Varta 95ah (bought locally) can last just 2yrs++
what can i say, the new battery just last one or max 2++ yrs only
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What BMW model?
supposed the original battery was absorbent glass mat battery? Did you replace it with an absorbent glass mat Varta too?
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post Apr 13 2019, 11:09 PM

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It's really funny visiting various different battery shops and hearing them proprietors saying how good the quality of the batteries on their shelves while conveniently lumping other brands not on their shelves as substandard quality.

The reason being by the end of the day after taking into account of all their testimonies, there wouldn't even exist a battery that's good cause their testimonies would have cancelled out each & every battery brand. 😂 🤣
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QUOTE(outpace @ Apr 13 2019, 10:05 PM)
What BMW model?
supposed the original battery was absorbent glass mat battery? Did you replace it with an absorbent glass mat Varta too?
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I think a more accurate question would be was the battery that lasted for 2 years only, bought from BMW SC's directly or from 3rd party battery resellers.
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Apr 8 2019, 10:35 PM)
DIN60 AGM jual berapa bos?
Lead acid battery is not some super high tech precision manufacturing level. Not to say that batteries are easy to manufacture, but the construction and chemistry is pretty similar across brands.
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This is true

QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 13 2019, 11:09 PM)
It's really funny visiting various different battery shops and hearing them proprietors saying how good the quality of the batteries on their shelves while conveniently lumping other brands not on their shelves as substandard quality.

The reason being by the end of the day after taking into account of all their testimonies, there wouldn't even exist a battery that's good cause their testimonies would have cancelled out each & every battery brand. 😂 🤣
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You are right, in almost every competitive industry.


QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 13 2019, 11:13 PM)
I think a more accurate question would be was the battery that lasted for 2 years only, bought from BMW SC's directly or from 3rd party battery resellers.
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Why car model, absorbent glass mat or not are not crucial questions to ask?


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QUOTE(outpace @ Apr 13 2019, 11:37 PM)
Why car model, absorbent glass mat or not are not crucial questions to ask?
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Those are important questions too but it's secondary. It's just me because I would like to know who are we dealing with and that alone makes all the difference.

Varta is Varta and they will continue to produce top notch batteries that will last for years, not just two years especially, even with Johnson Controls on board. Big companies don't just lose their secret recipe with change of shareholders otherwise there will be hell to pay. 😂


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post Apr 14 2019, 12:09 AM

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Outpace, you know what ? Instead of waiting for a reply, I will try to start digging at BMW and see where I end up. 😂 Its always good to go with an open mind.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 9 2019, 09:53 AM)
The initial idea of creating this thread was to collect data from everyone whose batteries that had lasted for more than 4 years but Jessieccy was correct. It's pointless since everyone's battery management is completely different. Hence I've stopped collecting such data.

On the other hand, I've began collaborating with others unconsciously within my community in order to advance our battery management with Century batteries.

My own Regular Flooded lasted 48 months, current target now is 60 months.

Other MF Marathoner lasted 29 months, current target now is 36 months.

Journeying together maximizing battery lifespan is far more enriching. My only condition is that no third party is allowed to touch the battery, just the owner & myself.

Someone wrote earlier if I was a promoter for Century, it would be good if I was, but then again which battery company would want someone like me teaching others how to get the best bang for their buck ! I am just bad for their sales.  🤣🤣🤣

There's another brand Panasonic Regular Flooded which came new with the car and that battery is now 28 months. Will see how this goes.
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Flooded as in wet battery? My Panasonic MF is 28 months now. But macam dying soon. I don't have tester though. Just gut feeling and symptom.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 14 2019, 09:17 AM)
Flooded as in wet battery? My Panasonic MF is 28 months now. But macam dying soon. I don't have tester though. Just gut feeling and symptom.
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Yes you are correct, Regular Flooded refers to Wet Battery. Best to have someone analyzed that battery for you, so as not to get caught with your pants down. Meanwhile if I were you, I will start scouting for a good battery.

What car is the 28 month Panasonic battery in ?

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 14 2019, 09:28 AM)
Yes you are correct, Regular Flooded refers to Wet Battery. Best to have someone analyzed that battery for you, so as not to get caught with your pants down. Meanwhile if I were you, I will start scouting for a good battery.

What car is the 28 month Panasonic battery in ?
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A 2011 Honda city.
Yeah. I know I'm playing it hard. Might be stranded. But the boy in me wanted to test for long it can. I'm already thinking to switch to amaron. But this is the only one lasted me so long. Except the stock one, but that time I don't drive that often. All my century last 1 year or so for me.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 14 2019, 09:40 AM)
A 2011 Honda city.
Yeah. I know I'm playing it hard. Might be stranded. But the boy in me wanted to test for long it can. I'm already thinking to switch to amaron. But this is the only one lasted me so long. Except the stock one, but that time I don't drive that often. All my century last 1 year or so for me.
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I understand. Times aren't good and it's not like everyone here has a sovereign fund like 1MDB.

Anyway if the battery fails to crank in the morning it's good. What's horrible is, when you're driving in the night and the car stalls in traffic ! My friend, Cikgu Ali was lucky that he wasn't hit from the back that night.

Finally Century has always been good to me max 4 years, so I am surprised that it lasted a year with you. Amaron, I've personally not tested it yet but good reviews so far depending on the model.
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The biggest misconception that's plaguing even the elders within my community is that the sole purpose of the battery is just to crank the engine.

That is so far from the truth. As I learn & discover more about battery I've began to appreciate the importance of having a battery in a high state-of-charge and trying to keep it constantly in that state.

What I reckon will be more challenging will be finding ways to prevent causes of battery failure. At the moment I must master the basic art first before going for the next challenge. 😂
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 14 2019, 10:18 AM)
I understand. Times aren't good and it's not like everyone here has a sovereign fund like 1MDB.

Anyway if the battery fails to crank in the morning it's good. What's horrible is, when you're driving in the night and the car stalls in traffic ! My friend, Cikgu Ali was lucky that he wasn't hit from the back that night.

Finally Century has always been good to me max 4 years, so I am surprised that it lasted a year with you. Amaron, I've personally not tested it yet but good reviews so far depending on the model.
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Ah. I always thought if battery it will only make you not able to crank up. After start up, it's all about alternator. Hmmm.

Actually it's not a cost issue for me. More like feel good factor for me. Knowing a battery can last how long instead of me cutting it short. 2 years is already better than what I've had recent years. I've heard good things about amaron as well as varta. Coincidentally recently I saw an amaron battery shop near my area.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 14 2019, 01:56 PM)
Ah. I always thought if battery it will only make you not able to crank up. After start up, it's all about alternator. Hmmm.

Actually it's not a cost issue for me. More like feel good factor for me. Knowing a battery can last how long instead of me cutting it short. 2 years is already better than what I've had recent years. I've heard good things about amaron as well as varta. Coincidentally recently I saw an amaron battery shop near my area.
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Battery is for cranking only & no other purpose, is definately a myth. 😂

Varta standards seem to have dropped but strangely this applies to Malaysia only I presume. Varta in Europe is still extremely good.



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post Apr 15 2019, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 14 2019, 02:17 PM)
Battery is for cranking only & no other purpose, is definately a myth. 😂

Varta standards seem to have dropped but strangely this applies to Malaysia only I presume. Varta in Europe is still extremely good.
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If car alternator fails, the battery will serve to power the aircond, spark plugs, radio and all things electrical while engine runs correct?

My alternator icon lit up before indicating no charge from alternator. After I had my alternator changed, the battery died a few days later. The drive during alternator failure must have took up all the battery charge.


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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 14 2019, 09:17 AM)
Flooded as in wet battery? My Panasonic MF is 28 months now. But macam dying soon. I don't have tester though. Just gut feeling and symptom.
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Some1 offered battery charger rental here in Automotive section; can't remember if it was in this thread or another. rent the charger (just for testing purpose)and just try to recharge this panasonic battery of yours in recond or agm mode and most probably it can be revived to its former glory.

the problem with most users is, they never bothered to read up on battery tech and just buy whatever shop recommends or marketing hype, i.e silver la calcium la will be da best of da best. fact is these silver-ca or ca-ca batteries require higher voltage alternators to fully charge. something your run-of-da-mill jap or local car alternator never designed for. agm/recond mode charging of newer smart chargers may bridge this mismatch.

would recommend you to take out the battery from your car to charge in agm/recond mode, coz i am not sure whether your electronics can take the 14.7v for a few hours during charging or not.

i revived my bosch sm mega power 38b24 (non-mf), which i suspect is a rebranded panasonic using this method. it is working like new again. now 4.5yrs old.

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