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Omochao
post Jan 11 2019, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 11 2019, 01:01 PM)
SD earning is much much lower one, i rather filter and let them lock the account

my analysis as below:-
1. Modded apps screw up some of their system by filtering, allocation goes haywire.
2. Nearest driver will not get the job now, i suspect their anti-cheating system back in HG still inside their system. Now need this system for what? HG already long gone.
3. Radius has shrink to reduce long pick up distance.
4. Grab want to give out TB incentive lesser, that's why allocation is depends on nearest driver, to reduce bleeding in their account.
5. Economy not good at this moment, after new year.

They just can't solve the modded app problem after few years of operation.
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Cat and mouse game. I update to block out modded apps. Tomorrow the next person will reverse engineer it to make it fully working again. How to win?? Is a never ending cycle unless they start admitting their own mistakes and recruit those hackers.
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post Jan 11 2019, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(jackal_x2005 @ Jan 11 2019, 12:46 PM)
Bandar utama/TTDI/Setapak/WangsaMaju
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Yesterday i got TBB.. From sri damansara to IKANO.. Trip rm19 +TBB rm7.90.. From ikano to unique seafood seksyen 13 pj trip rm25 +TBB rm9.20.. From 6.30pm till 8.30 only two trip.. The trafik was like crazy.. Cannot tahan offline, alik rumah..

Its is true that someone said TBB is juz luck if u get..
andrwss
post Jan 11 2019, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(Omochao @ Jan 11 2019, 03:08 PM)
Cat and mouse game. I update to block out modded apps. Tomorrow the next person will reverse engineer it to make it fully working again. How to win?? Is a never ending cycle unless they start admitting their own mistakes and recruit those hackers.
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So you are Grab's CEO or engineer? Why don't you track all of them and permanent ban them? Not enough supply?
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post Jan 11 2019, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(andrwss @ Jan 11 2019, 06:24 PM)
So you are Grab's CEO or engineer? Why don't you track all of them and permanent ban them? Not enough supply?
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Yeah why don’t him?🙄
aral3005
post Jan 11 2019, 11:26 PM

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My advice is, please dont turn on SD

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post Jan 12 2019, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(aral3005 @ Jan 11 2019, 11:26 PM)
My advice is, please dont turn on SD
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Why? SD is a useful tool for drivers to get back to their home. At least not driving all the way back with an empty car.
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post Jan 12 2019, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(andrwss @ Jan 11 2019, 06:24 PM)
So you are Grab's CEO or engineer? Why don't you track all of them and permanent ban them? Not enough supply?
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You need to have some common sense and also humour. Why would a CEO or engineer be posting here in the first place? doh.gif
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post Jan 12 2019, 08:35 AM

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From what i see this Time Boost Bonus is only at hotspot area.. Like if u are at Damansara Damai or Paya Jaras or ulu places u dont get TBB.. Most hotspot area are heavy trafik that time will get TBB on MP and UP.. But grab is stupid to use the 2weeks ago data thingy plus is not accurate.. U guyz just wait another 2week im pretty sure they will lower the MP n UP slot.. Becoz this week got road closures for tunnel work some where at duta n it effects most the roadD trafik in NKVE SPRINT.. Grab is not beeing honest to the drivers.. If they want to implement TBB they should put a timer in the booking showing driver the estimated time to complete the trip and if it exceed the timer that grab have calculated up front driver can screenshot the trip and make complain so drivers can make a report n claim the actual fare different.. This will make most driver happy to drive even in massive trafik jem for sure.. But what do grab care right.. They are the boss to the drivers u want money u drive, u dont drive u dont get money.. They dont care if they lost driver or terminate drivers, 1 driver goes out 50 new driver are coming in for them.. This is becoz we drivers have no strong union to back us up.. And im pretty sure the world dont know what is happening to drivers in this big grab cooperation.. They are using adds saying helping driver earn money.. 😡😡
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post Jan 12 2019, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Ashbun @ Jan 12 2019, 08:35 AM)
From what i see this Time Boost Bonus is only at hotspot area..  Like if u are at Damansara Damai or Paya Jaras or ulu places u dont get TBB..  Most hotspot area are heavy trafik that time will get TBB on MP and UP.. But grab is stupid to use the 2weeks ago data thingy plus is not accurate.. U guyz just wait another 2week im pretty sure they will lower the MP n UP slot..  Becoz this week got road closures for tunnel work some where at duta n it effects most the roadD trafik in NKVE SPRINT.. Grab is not beeing honest to the drivers..  If they want to implement TBB they should put a timer in the booking showing driver the estimated time to complete the trip and if it exceed the timer that grab have calculated up front driver can screenshot the trip and make complain so drivers can make a report n claim the actual fare different.. This will make most driver happy to drive even in massive trafik jem for sure..  But what do grab care right..  They are the boss to the drivers u want money u drive,  u dont drive u dont get money..  They dont care if they lost driver or terminate drivers,  1 driver goes out 50 new driver are coming in for them..  This is becoz we drivers have no strong union to back us up..  And im pretty  sure the world dont know what is happening to drivers in this big grab cooperation..  They are using adds saying helping driver earn money..  😡😡
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used to 1 lembu quit or kena ba
10 new lembu joining que to join crap
now may be 1-2 new drivers joining. still more than enough
after July then don’t know
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post Jan 12 2019, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Jan 12 2019, 09:43 AM)
used to 1 lembu quit or kena ba
10 new lembu joining que to join crap
now may be 1-2 new drivers joining. still more than enough
after July then don’t know
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I just fetched a new lembu to Grab Axis business centre yesterday.....told me he is unemployed and plan to drive while looking for job.

Perhaps this year will have many new lembu due to unemployment. Old lembu like me will also keep soldiering on due to no better alternative

Tough time ahead but just keep going
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post Jan 12 2019, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Ron2828 @ Jan 12 2019, 09:50 AM)
I just fetched a new lembu to Grab Axis business centre yesterday.....told me he is unemployed and plan to drive while looking for job.

Perhaps this year will have many new lembu due to unemployment. Old lembu like me will also keep soldiering on due to no better alternative

Tough time ahead but just keep going
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after July, once we register commercial insurance...our car become commercial used and no longer private used purpose
resale value gg liao.
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post Jan 12 2019, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Jan 12 2019, 10:32 AM)
after July, once we register commercial insurance...our car become commercial used and no longer private used purpose
resale value gg liao.
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I thought we only need e-hailing insurance (currently provided by MSIG and Allianz),Socso, PSV license and Puspakom check (car more than 3 years)

Can elaborate more on this commercial insurance?

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post Jan 12 2019, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ron2828 @ Jan 12 2019, 10:40 AM)
I thought we only need e-hailing insurance (currently provided by MSIG and Allianz),Socso, PSV license and Puspakom check (car more than 3 years)

Can elaborate more on this commercial insurance?
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same same like taxi insurance or whatever name you want
And our vehicles are public transport after July 2019

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4616772/all
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post Jan 12 2019, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 12 2019, 12:47 AM)
Why? SD is a useful tool for drivers to get back to their home. At least not driving all the way back with an empty car.
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SD is useless nowadays, i don't know what happen to crap system.

I can SD from Selayang to Subang without single job, from Mont Kiara to Subang without single job for this week. doh.gif

QUOTE(bcombat @ Jan 12 2019, 10:32 AM)
after July, once we register commercial insurance...our car become commercial used and no longer private used purpose
resale value gg liao.
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from what i read, no need to convert into commercial car. If commercial car the cost is much higher, no difference with taxi already.

It remain as personal car but subject to all the regulation above, of course need PSV as well.
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post Jan 12 2019, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 12 2019, 01:20 PM)
SD is useless nowadays, i don't know what happen to crap system.

I can SD from Selayang to Subang without single job, from Mont Kiara to Subang without single job for this week.  doh.gif
from what i read, no need to convert into commercial car. If commercial car the cost is much higher, no difference with taxi already.

It remain as personal car but subject to all the regulation above, of course need PSV as well.
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Exactly
Only turn on SD if u really want to go somewhere/go back home
Just accept all jobs when u turn on AA
andrwss
post Jan 12 2019, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 12 2019, 01:20 PM)
SD is useless nowadays, i don't know what happen to crap system.

I can SD from Selayang to Subang without single job, from Mont Kiara to Subang without single job for this week.  doh.gif
from what i read, no need to convert into commercial car. If commercial car the cost is much higher, no difference with taxi already.
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I've been using SD for 1 year, and I can tell you how it work. If crap's system detected a pattern in your job history in entire week, they will block your SD from receiving certain jobs, this is under "gaming the system" I guess. For example, usually I can get 3-7 airport jobs with SD in my city in a week, after crap block you from getting airport job I will get 0 airport jobs for 1 or 2 weeks. Same goes to other jobs, if you always camping at certain sweet spot and cherry pick, once crap detect your pattern they will block you out entirely from those jobs.

Crap hired too much useless staff to monitor your job history to fuck you up, on top of stupid riders. But if you're having any serious trouble, calling their driver support always works, they will tell you what to do and what not to do.

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Ron2828
post Jan 12 2019, 02:08 PM

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My SD not as good as last year but still can get job.Have to wait between 5-20 minutes. My destination is Wangsa Maju and I always try to pass through city center on the way there.

So I guess it depends on destination, timing and bit of luck nowadays. If your destination is white area on the map then gg liao
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post Jan 12 2019, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(andrwss @ Jan 12 2019, 01:51 PM)
I've been using SD for 1 year, and I can tell you how it work. If crap's system detected a pattern in your job history in entire week, they will block your SD from receiving certain jobs, this is under "gaming the system" I guess. For example, usually I can get 3-7 airport jobs with SD in my city in a week, after crap block you from getting airport job I will get 0 airport jobs for 1 or 2 weeks. Same goes to other jobs, if you always camping at certain sweet spot and cherry pick, once crap detect your pattern they will block you out entirely from those jobs.

Crap hired too much useless staff to monitor your job history to fuck you up, on top of stupid riders. But if you're having any serious trouble, calling their driver support always works, they will tell you what to do and what not to do.
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u based in which state?
in kv, we can’t sd to klia.
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post Jan 12 2019, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Jan 12 2019, 01:16 PM)
same same like taxi insurance or whatever name you want
And our vehicles are public transport after July 2019

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4616772/all
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There's too many agenda behind this matter. Uncle taxi, goverment and grab are playing their cards. Although grab is the one who might be in the tight spot.

Gomen was pushed by uncle taxis and somehow they need to fulfill their promises. Hence, all the demands by the uncle taxis were met. Puspakom, psv, etc. They are the real winner here. Uncle taxis will cast their vote on them on next pru while they squeeze money from psv, puspakom. They are not losing in this trade. Scared Grab angry? Nah they know grab is too soft. We only vent our anger in socmed.

In uncle taxis cases, the real agenda is to monopoly the market again. Regulations on e-hailing? They don't give a single mind about it. They knew with such implemantation, most of the drivers will be demotivated and stop driving. They even express their disappointment on the "1 year grace period" and demand that the implemantation should be done now. With less supply from Grab, they can get their precious customers back, crawling to them. Least, that's what they thought. Little did they know that some people mati2 don't want ride taxi and rather looks for other alternatives. In the end all that left is uncle taxis waiting on the roadside of LRT with nothing to blame on.

For Grab? No one will know what cards they're playing. They are sneaky bastards who will came out with a plan eventually. Giving you candies to atrract more lembus and slay them when they are ripe enough to harvest. Silently planning on how to make profit. They are like dandelion in the crack on the pavement. They might grew "beautifully" or die stomped by.

We lembus? Heh, we have our own agenda too. Part timers are out from this game since the moment MOT mention the regulations. Contemplating whether it is worth it to be part time lembu or not. Full lembus? Probably came out as the winner. Apa lah sangat amount and puspakom compared to the demand you will get when those part timers quit for good. Two week can cover that sum already. The only slight problem is the crap go out try to gain uncle taxis trust back and reform to myteksi 2.0. Just look at Justgrab implemantation. Moreover, we are the pawns of crap when they decide to shove our arse in squeezing profit.

Riders? They are the clueless one. They are like the bystanders caught between the "war". They might be stand far enought to not be smeared by the feces but they surely get the smell of it. Price hikes? Low demands? Forced to ride taxis and get cheated? Well they are the one who have a lot of choices in this matter. They can choose between cake, ice cream, durian or stale bread if they are clever enough.

In the end, everyone is looking for themselve. We are nothing but strangers to one another. As long as there are glimpse of opportunities, we will grab it. Kill or be killed, that's the harsh truth.

Hehe it's saturday evening and I have nothing better to do before grabbing later. Hence my ridiculous monologue. Well, goodluck everybody on your future endeavours. May the force be with you. P/s: don't take this post seriously. I'm just bored 🤣
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post Jan 12 2019, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Jan 12 2019, 02:20 PM)
u based in which state?
in kv, we can’t sd to klia.
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Sarawak, we can SD to airport for big fare RM30, all other jobs are mostly RM4 - 7. But once grab detect I got lots of airport trips I sure get blocked for 1 or 2 weeks on SD, I've been blocked many many time. I can still get airport jobs without SD.

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