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EternalC
post Dec 6 2018, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 6 2018, 12:17 AM)
eh....the tax relief is only 18% for sme and 24% max.....compared to 100% the gov receive in repaid loans....
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if they can propose up a better repayment schedule and policy and not something as ridiculous as this one, i think they can get their loans back without giving out those relieves.


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post Dec 6 2018, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Dec 6 2018, 12:19 AM)
but every year change iPhone
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The point is, everyone has their own financial planning.

income 5k,

planning, following existing ptptn schedule rm200 every month.


so got 4.8k remainig for house comittement. car, wateva fark there is.


now you say suddenly pay rm500.

where to vomit the extra? savings? skip buying medical insurance? defauly on house loan? car loan? DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM HERE?

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post Dec 6 2018, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(EternalC @ Dec 6 2018, 12:09 AM)
what did ph promised about ptptn
that's the exact reason why students vote for them
now dah jadi gov, gov kencing on those students. then kasi berak atas kepala lagi to show dominance with this repayment shit
dia jadi gov is also partly because of that promise. bukan main heboh lagi during the campaign period mainkan isu ptptn

bukan nak cakap hutang tak payah bayar
tapi nak cakap janji jangan tak dicapati

uturners are one of the people i hate the most. no principle at all. dah buat sekali, lain kali entah apa lagi yang dia buat.
in the end, sama jer dengan previous gov
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my vote won't goes to them next time. Did not even bring down the living cost yet break so many promises and make most of the middle level suffer.
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post Dec 6 2018, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(EternalC @ Dec 6 2018, 12:18 AM)
they promise to delay repayment until income reach 4k

now with this, defaulters (both yang sengaja tak bayar or yang tak mampu nak bayar) get ready declare bankulupsi  rclxms.gif
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once bangkrupt.. automatically black list to go oversea.. win hahaha
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post Dec 6 2018, 12:26 AM

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Additionally EVERYONE MISS OUT.



the interest charged in..... since the rate of payment becomes faster and finish faster, Shouldn't THEY RETURN THE DIFFERENCE IN INTERESTS?

also.... if every year change salary , then the payment diff, they recalculate the interest?????


BODOH!
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post Dec 6 2018, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 6 2018, 12:07 AM)
that of course is illegal....

but a negotiated employment package is not....and contrary to what people think, that package is NOT just your salary, but can include higher epf, benefit in kinds like company car and housing, and now, ptptn loan repayment....
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Thanks to you and eternalc, amidst all this Chaos I learnt something


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post Dec 6 2018, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:45 PM)
I called PTPTN Careline 2 hours ago, this will apply to ALL borrowers, regardless if you are paying on schedule, already reschedule, or already use EPF to set of certain amount, or have credit balance. ALL previous arrangement will be ceased and deduction based on salary apply.
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KNS cannot use credit card for RM50 cashback every month ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif
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post Dec 6 2018, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 5 2018, 09:38 PM)
Wahlao, you owe ppl money you need to pay back la. Especially you have 8k monthly income.

You know you will get very sui when owe people money? The longer you drag, the shitter your life will be. better pay back all one shot.
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you... you might be onto something here.
when I owe somebody money I became restless all the time.

imagine holding onto a loan for so long...
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post Dec 6 2018, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(xenith @ Dec 6 2018, 12:25 AM)
my vote won't goes to them next time. Did not even bring down the living cost yet break so many promises and make most of the middle level suffer.
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middle level never win punya since zaman bn lul

QUOTE(ganz @ Dec 6 2018, 12:25 AM)
once bangkrupt.. automatically black list to go oversea.. win hahaha
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nampak tak permainan dia brows.gif icon_idea.gif
they brought it up to another whole new level rclxms.gif

QUOTE(luminaryxi @ Dec 6 2018, 12:26 AM)
Thanks to you and eternalc,  amidst all this Chaos I learnt something
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lai share what did you learn? brows.gif
kalau masuk commercial court please dont quote me as your reference material tongue.gif
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post Dec 6 2018, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(Brix @ Dec 6 2018, 12:17 AM)
I think the easiest solution is to deduct their EPF account to repay the loan. Just my 2 cents.
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Hmm, your idea intrigued me, so I did some research.
After that research, I agree, EPF deductions should be part of the 'package' of loan recovery methods.

Outstanding PTPTN loans are RM39b as at Aug 2018, let's assume 50% of that is recoverable from EPF.
That's RM20b. EPF assets as at end 2017 are RM791.48b, so it's barely 2.5% of EPF NAV.

But the government fears any selldown, because the EPF already props up Bursa Malaysia and the bond market - MGS is 1/4 of the EPF holdings!
Any repayment in this manner would only be enabled by the EPF selling either stocks or bonds, thus possibly triggering a selldown in either market.

Sources:
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...t-through-1mdb/
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/en/web/kwsp/...an-tahunan-2017
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post Dec 6 2018, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(Mummy Shark @ Dec 6 2018, 12:54 AM)
semua mahu salahkan PH for taking the bull by its horns. sendiri setuju hutang, kenalah bayar. selama ni BN abaikan tanggungjawab dengan membiarkan default berleluasa sampai semua jadi darah daging lari dari bayar hutang.
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Nie pundek. Honor the agreement. Aku bayar hutang aku. Apa yg PH buat serupa Along. Janji honor agreement bayar 200 for 10 years. Suddenly farkup somewhere, come back, ask for extra. Lets ask bank to do it for u.. loan 10 taun. Mintak bayar 5 taun. Makan pasir? Sembang kencang...tgk pada situasi la kuda.. klu jilat pun.. banggang...
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post Dec 6 2018, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(dotadellpro @ Dec 6 2018, 01:05 AM)
Oh wow. This one lagi dasyat.

Want to get the 20% discount. Means got money to pay off everything in 1 shot but doesnt want to. Then rage when have to settle his debt faster (but actually has the money to pay 1 shot)
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Nie lg sekor banggang bertingkat. Hidup kena cerdik... bayar full xfull. Sudah ada option. We choose. Which one better for your life. Serupa makan nasi..makan pasir..why choose makan nasi?
Otak guna..jgn letak dkt lutut. Semua mau win win condition.
Aku da bayar. Honor the agreement. Yg xbayar. Go fark off them. I earned more. My rights. Hak aku. Duit aku. Yg lain nk jadi bodo. Carry on.
Jgn jadi banggang dalam hidup. Sian jd pengemis mintak ehsan org.

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post Dec 6 2018, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(haimirmaya @ Dec 6 2018, 12:53 AM)
Nie lg sekor banggang bertingkat. Hidup kena cerdik... bayar full xfull. Sudah ada option. We choose. Which one better for your life. Serupa makan nasi..makan pasir..why choose makan nasi?
Otak guna..jgn letak dkt lutut. Semua mau win win condition.
Aku da bayar. Honor the agreement. Yg xbayar. Go fark off them. I earned more. My rights. Hak aku. Duit aku. Yg lain nk jadi bodo. Carry on.
Jgn jadi banggang dalam hidup. Sian jd pengemis mintak ehsan org.
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bro.. u in /k.. where all earn 20k permonth.. have 20 landed properties

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post Dec 6 2018, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(ganz @ Dec 6 2018, 12:55 AM)
bro.. u in /k.. where all earn 20k permonth.. have 20 landed properties
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but i baru gaji rm800 sad.gif

rumah pun bapa punyer sad.gif
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post Dec 6 2018, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(ganz @ Dec 6 2018, 01:55 AM)
bro.. u in /k.. where all earn 20k permonth.. have 20 landed properties
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Im the one berpijak on bumi yg nyata. Those on dreaming. Fark off. Talk talk but apa pon tarak. Wanna bash..wanna blame..get into the facts.
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post Dec 6 2018, 12:59 AM

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post Dec 6 2018, 01:00 AM

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post Dec 6 2018, 01:11 AM

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Can they at least enforce this upon those who defaulted or not a good paymaster and those who did follow the repayment properly give them a better % rate but slowly moving up? Kind of unfair for those who follows the agreement and a good paymaster which I believe is a lot too..jangan la pukul rata jer
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Dec 6 2018, 12:24 AM)
The point is, everyone has their own financial planning.

income 5k,

planning, following existing ptptn schedule rm200 every month.
so got 4.8k remainig for house comittement. car, wateva fark there is.
now you say suddenly pay rm500.

where to vomit the extra? savings? skip buying medical insurance? defauly on house loan? car loan?  DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM HERE?
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Who said need to pay RM500?
Are you referring to this? https://pictr.com/image/0d9TrB
did you notice the range of RM320-480?
at 5k income he maybe have to pay RM350-400 a month.

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QUOTE(luminaryxi @ Dec 5 2018, 11:58 PM)
Employer tax free pay ptptn when start? Ask employer pay for me to enjoy tax free, I get discount, I pay back employer.

Employer rebate me with the tax free they save.

Can work?
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no need you ask the employer also sendiri pay with your salary.. cut your salary.. you mana dapat discount?
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