That's what I told my gf. The green series must be cheaper for a reason even if size is bigger. Once we actually go there straight away can foresee traffic problem.

Bad roads, useless roundabouts, proximity to Puncak alam/Saujana utama and most importantly, chokepoints at their exits

As bad as it is, I don't know of any new township developments right now out there that's Klang Valley based that has entries-exits enough to accomodate the total capacity of the area. There is always some sort of bottleneck somewhere, somehow. Current traffic commute during peak hours in KV is bad almost everywhere especially the closer you are to KL/PJ area. Sime Darby defo need to improve on Elmina & Denai Alam traffic infrastructure, but I wonder how much really can they ultimately ease the traffic conditions, even with the proposed direct DASH entry that probably gonna be many years down the line to fulfill... Funny thing also that parts of the DASH highway is actually connected to Denai Alam at the Seven Skies Islamic International School area, but they cordoned it off. I think plans might have been made but ultimately PROLINTAS decided against connecting to Denai Alam directly? Just my speculation...

To my mind, the traffic congestion is not due to elmina residents mainly but those from surrounding areas like puncak alam, saujana etc. using the roads in elmina to get to DASH and Guthrie. The main reason why i didn't go for Green series is the distance from the entry/exit. How is the exit to Guthrie in the morning from elmina east side? also bad?

More traffic once all the schools are up as well.



This post has been edited by ImGames: Nov 19 2024, 02:47 PM

Bottleneck usually occur due to toll booth and junctions. Elmina is huge with SDP as the only sole developer so traffic this bad should not happen early stage. They could have build an exit interchange to guthrie but decide to do it later when problem arise. 2 small junction to exit is just asking for trouble. I heard from a friend that their other commercial development also similar case. Dash connection not so soon. Whether is prolintas issue or marketing strategy for their newer phases no one knows.

I guess elmina east is not affected with the traffic issue. But getting to the future Dash connection will be further away with traffic lights in between.

For green series there is a cross junction in the future for all road users around that area. U guess the traffic.

This post has been edited by rave23: Nov 19 2024, 03:25 PM

As long as SDP is going to remedy the issue eventually, in the long term I'd say it's good enough. They still have a lot of land being developed in Elmina after all, have to speed it up if not no one's gonna buy there haha! Maybe I have very low expectations now since my previously house is in TTDI Jaya which is flood prone and also jams exiting to the main road in front of Giant Section 13 during peak hours....

Why all the schools at one area? That whole road gonna be gridlock in morning and evening peak hours. Whose idea is this dafuq...mcm playing sim city je

There were plans to have an entry and exit from Denai alam during consultation with the residents of Denai alam. Ultimately at that time Denai Alam folks rejected the entry and exit henceforth the diversion to kg melayu subang

So now everyone suffers including Denai alam folks lol

Was unaware of this, thank you for sharing! No wonder the roads near the Seven Skies Islamic school there so weird like can masuk DASH tapi bukan punya.

Never heard of ppl rejecting the DASH other than Damansara perdana folks, in fact connection to DASH is a selling point to denai alam projects even before elmina was launched. DASH still go through damansara perdana despite many objections so I don't think denai alam residents can do anything if SD agree on the link to DASH.

The seven skies school and the semi-D near to the DASH were not built when DASH is proposed, it's just that whether SD willing to let DASH to build an interchange there and earn lesser profit. My guess is both parties can't come to an agreement on that. Even if building a link to DASH now, I think it will cause slow traffic if the road at that area cannot be widen as houses already built at surrounding areas. It will not be like the NKVE-Setia Alam link which is well planned by SP Setia.

Proposal for DASH come later long after Denai Alam township.

The problem is DASH not fully connected directly with Guthrie.

Early phases of denai alam maybe no, later phases SD includes DASH in the map in brochures and agents give buyers impression that 15 minutes can reach Ikea.

DASH actually integrated with Guthrie, but to shah alam direction instead of PJ. And what make this worse is when you going home from PJ, after paying toll U either exit at the subang 2 and stuck in the traffic and pass through a few traffic lights before denai alam junction, or go further up to sunway kayangan exit & pay toll then U-turn and pay toll again before denai alam exit

This road will be super jam in the morning and afternoon. Good luck.

The jam will only happen like years later as ground breaking for school just happened. So it will be at least 2 years for any traffic to build up.

The Persiaran Atmosfera route to MRT Kwasa Sentral should open the link. This is a faster solution to address and divert some of the traffic. It has been tabled in Parliament and approved for the construction of the missing link. However, it is unclear why no action has been taken yet.

dont think the kwasa residents will be agreeable to this proposal. there are a lot of high end landed housing here and they wouldn't want traffic to pass through their housing areas.

want to go to the MRT station? go from jalan sungai buloh instead.

plus kwasa damansara will take at least 10-20 years to complete, don't see the link opening up until then.

to reserve as manifesto for next GE....

This has to be forced through but i guess the developers involved in Kwasa are lobbying for delay as they want to sell their units first before they expose the area to traffic. Sometimes SDP too nice as they open all the roads and parks to outsiders instead of closing them and allowing residents only to use.

In the past, Ara Damansara had this issue. residents of the low and medium cost condos plus the terrace houses could only access to PJ from the tunnel because the developers closed and refused to tar a portion of the road leading to tropicana. Traffic was unbearable. Residents refused to accept the situation and hired a tractor to remove the concrete barriers blocking the road and protested. It went on the newspapers. the developers put back the concrete barriers and the residents removed them again. What a battle until the authorities stepped in and told the developer to open the road. Maybe its time for round 2

As a future Kwasa resident why should I agree to this opening? The irony is you lot are already complaining about traffic from puncak alam and the surrounding area clogging your streets and yet you want to clog up ours now? Do us a favour and tell SDP to force Prolintas to help you out on DASH yeah?

This post has been edited by zack.gap: Nov 22 2024, 11:21 AM