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 AMDŽ Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread (V2), discuss our setup/overclocking issues

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post Sep 29 2007, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(beast921 @ Sep 29 2007, 10:43 AM)
Yup its true, just try it last night.....it got the 0.5 cpu multiplier. I also tried to see what and how far  this new bios can push my X2 4000+.............at first try it got me at 2.96Ghz with X9.5 multiplier /+0.75Vcore/bus speed 300Mhz/HT 1204.

then I continue to increase the Vcore(+0.87) and Vdimm(2.15) and cpu clock at 310/X10 multiplier................after rebooting and not post at all and wont even load to window.......and try again with minor changes with the voltage and the multiplier and ram timing. ...............then boom..........my system got corrupted........now re-formating and will try again later tonight.
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wow , salute to u, bro thumbup.gif
+0.87v sweat.gif what kinda cooling that you are using?
FYI, 0.5 multiplier is something holy in am2 platform.
If know how to use it wisely, can overclock the ram kaw kaw brows.gif
too bad my TF7050 cannot use 0.5 multiplier and clockgen in windows. cry.gif
if not i can show u how to play v it icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(beast921 @ Sep 29 2007, 10:47 AM)
Thanks mate notworthy.gif  I always want to try HD video clips and see what are the outcome. icon_rolleyes.gif  appreciate it
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you're welcome, my friend smile.gif

FYI , 0717 bios is the best. Yesterday i've read tru some comparison , it shows that nothing much improvement with the video encoding part. And also , the memory performance of the new bios is slightly drop if compared to the 0717 bios. ( slower abit in super Pi test )

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Sep 29 2007, 10:46 AM)
I thought Brisbane is much better overclocker than Windsor, guess I was wrong. How far can Windsor go?
I know Windsor is faster than Brisbane clock per clock. Yeah the heat is killing me, and it require 1.4V to reach 2.4GHz and doesn't respond well when I feed more voltage

So what's the recommendation guys? 4000+ DD or 5200+ CZ? Of course the 5200+ is more expensive but if it worth it I'll buy it. Looks like nobody uses TForce 550 SE like me....if anyone have any experience overclocking using this board please share with me  smile.gif
I've done that, but at most it will reach 2.45GHz but I will got random BSOD and if it can actually load Windows, I can't run any heavy program or it will crash

It's pretty frustrating that I can't overclock X2 as good as my old Sempron 2500+ s754, it can reach 2.5GHz from 1.4GHz without needing any voltage increase, and in SuprePi it was faster than my X2!
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If you are mentioning windsor F3, then i would say that windsor F3 is much more better than brisbane , in terms of performance, overclock ability , as well as the temperature after overclocking. 65nm SOI from AMD is just a mess , they just simply make it in order to compete with their opponent.

i really fed up with brisbane core already bcoz it lacks in many things. The DTS spoiled , higher L2 cache latency ( this one caused the performance low ) , and the integrated memory controller also seem abit cacat .

A s754 proc can bench faster than am2 proc in Spi? shocking.gif Really hard to believe it as s754 proc does not support dual channel, suppose there will be a big gap in term of performance between these 2.

and how far can a windsor F3 go? Lately i'm bringing in some CZ goodies , we will see that very soon brows.gif
FYI, i'm a F3 windsor user now , highest clock that i hit is 3.35GHz. you can check OC database for my screenshot.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/321443

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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Sep 29 2007, 12:04 PM)
If u got lucky and got good mobo etc, maybe  u can reach 3.0ghz from stock 2.0ghz..5200+ i think is good. but better if u can get F3 stepping as it can oc higher than F2.5200+ CZ is F3 stepping and i think its worth if u try it...... nod.gif
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Thanks for the recommendation smile.gif

QUOTE(dblooi @ Sep 29 2007, 12:57 PM)
If you are mentioning windsor F3, then i would say that windsor F3 is much more better than brisbane , in terms of performance, overclock ability , as well as the temperature after overclocking. 65nm SOI from AMD is just a mess , they just simply make it in order to compete with their opponent.

i really fed up with brisbane core already bcoz it lacks in many things. The DTS spoiled , higher L2 cache latency ( this one caused the performance low ) , and the integrated memory controller also seem abit cacat .

A s754 proc can bench faster than am2 proc in Spi? shocking.gif Really hard to believe it as s754 proc does not support dual channel, suppose there will be a big gap in term of performance between these 2.

and how far can a windsor F3 go? Lately i'm bringing in some CZ goodies , we will see that very soon brows.gif   
FYI, i'm a F3 windsor user now , highest clock that i hit is 3.35GHz. you can check OC database for my screenshot.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/321443
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I agree with you about Brisbane, that' swhy I hold up my purchase, or I might as well buy 4000+ DD last night

Yup my Sempron 2.5GHz is 5 sec faster than my 2.4GHz X2 on 1M SuperPi, the Sempron got 35sec while the X2 is 40sec at 2.2GHz. Now the Sempron enjoy it's time off, on my friend PC which he didn't overclock tongue.gif

Wow good that Windsor can reach 3.3GHz. I still don't know whether I'm gonna buy it or not. Not really a heavy overclocker nowadays. I used to have P4 Northwood 2GHz reaching 3GHz before the Sempron. Looks like I have a bad CPU this time biggrin.gif
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Personally, if i got money, i will go for 5200+. it's just my budget too low so have to get this 3800+... sad.gif
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Sep 29 2007, 04:31 PM)
Personally, if i got money, i will go for 5200+. it's just my budget too low so have to get this 3800+... sad.gif
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5200+ is too expensive, if count in term of price per performance ratio , not worth it.
I bought it bcoz feel badly wanna try out CZ during that time cry.gif
Gonna let it go soon and get 3800+ CZ brows.gif
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post Sep 29 2007, 06:44 PM

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dblooi,
So how is The cz going?any news?
hope you keep me posted and others too.....gonna set aside some fund for it too......hehehe
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Sep 29 2007, 06:44 PM)
dblooi,
So how is The cz going?any news?
hope you keep me posted and others too.....gonna set aside some fund for it too......hehehe
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already found 19 pieces , i'm trying hard to fight with those chinaman now.
they keep on changing their 3800CZ non stop and don't wanna let others get vmad.gif
but don't worry , i'm a senior member in that forum... brows.gif
now fighting hard...brb laugh.gif

edited: to show that i'm not creating a wonderland story by myself.. here's a link...but it is in chinese

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_...3652e4473.jhtml

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Sep 29 2007, 06:36 PM)
5200+ is too expensive, if count in term of price per performance ratio , not worth it.
I bought it bcoz feel badly wanna try out CZ during that time  cry.gif
Gonna let it go soon and get 3800+ CZ brows.gif
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5200+ got 2mb L2 cache right??is it brings any diff during gaming or demanding applications??
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post Sep 29 2007, 08:49 PM

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well i did read a review with 3600 windsor and 3800 windsor..
256 vs 512//well according to benchmark..the diff is too low.


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QUOTE(dblooi @ Sep 29 2007, 07:04 PM)
already found 19 pieces , i'm trying hard to fight with those chinaman now.
they keep on changing their 3800CZ non stop and don't wanna let others get vmad.gif
but don't worry , i'm a senior member in that forum... brows.gif
now fighting hard...brb laugh.gif

edited: to show that i'm not creating a wonderland story by myself.. here's a link...but it is in chinese

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_...3652e4473.jhtml
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Dude,
good luck in your deal.
I dont read chinese but i dont doubt genuine hardcore like yourself.
Let me know If you need any help.


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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Sep 29 2007, 08:49 PM)
well i did read a review with 3600 windsor and 3800 windsor..
256 vs 512//well according to benchmark..the diff is too low.


Added on September 29, 2007, 8:54 pm
Dude,
good luck in your deal.
I dont read chinese but i dont doubt genuine hardcore like yourself.
Let me know If you need any help.
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Thanks for that laugh.gif
the CZs are running out fast, within 1 hr 19 pieces become 5 pieces only sweat.gif . Luckily oredi booked 10 of them (you may check the link for the quantity of goods). Currently dealing with them on the banking and delivery issues. Shouldn't be a problem now . Maybe can get those procs by next week if everything goes smooth icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Sep 29 2007, 08:42 PM)
5200+ got 2mb L2 cache right??is it brings any diff during gaming or demanding applications??
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it will be some diff there.. but how much it is..i couldn't answer u in exact sweat.gif
maybe u can try google for some reviews for benchmark screenies laugh.gif
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post Sep 29 2007, 09:22 PM

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bro,
Price finalise already??
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Sep 29 2007, 09:22 PM)
bro,
Price finalise already??
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Once i get the proc in my hand then only i can finialise the price.
Estimated price is around 240-260 (including postage to doorstep).
Most probably won't be higher than that. ( unless there are some extra charges for courier..tax or others)
We will discuss it in garage sales section after i get the proc wink.gif
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Sep 28 2007, 06:55 PM)
here's a link that u can download some 720p 1080p short clips.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsme...ntshowcase.aspx

try to run it and take a look at the cpu usage. Maybe you can find out some difference before and after flashing the new bios icon_rolleyes.gif
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hehehe...ok my system up and running now. Just now testing to see HD video clips 720p & 1080p

seriously have to overclock up to 2.52Ghz to see those movie clips smoothly.

720p take up 25%-35% CPU usage at 2.52Ghz - running smoothly at 19" 1440x900

1080p take up 40%-55% CPU usage at 2.52Ghz - facing a jerk in some of the scenes.


All done with onboard graphic X1250 ATI Radeon (stock did not overclock IGX/IGP).


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QUOTE(dblooi @ Sep 29 2007, 09:30 PM)
Once i get the proc in my hand then only i can finialise the price.
Estimated price is around 240-260 (including postage to doorstep).
Most probably won't be higher than that. ( unless there are some extra charges for courier..tax or others)
We will discuss it in garage sales section after i get the proc wink.gif
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Bro,
If thats the price range,count me in..hehehhe
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the price is attractive....need to think about it first
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Sep 29 2007, 09:30 PM)
Once i get the proc in my hand then only i can finialise the price.
Estimated price is around 240-260 (including postage to doorstep).
Most probably won't be higher than that. ( unless there are some extra charges for courier..tax or others)
We will discuss it in garage sales section after i get the proc wink.gif
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how come the site shows the specs of Athlon 64 3800+ while showing a pic of Athlon 64 x2 3800+...
swt those chinaman...
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QUOTE(beast921 @ Sep 29 2007, 09:36 PM)
hehehe...ok my system up and running now. Just now testing to see HD video clips 720p & 1080p

seriously have to overclock up to 2.52Ghz to see those movie clips smoothly.

720p take up 25%-35% CPU usage at 2.52Ghz - running smoothly at 19" 1440x900

1080p take up 40%-55% CPU usage at 2.52Ghz - facing a jerk in some of the scenes.
All done with onboard graphic X1250 ATI Radeon (stock did not overclock IGX/IGP).
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can try to overclock the IGP to 550-600 , it is safe to oc to that range icon_rolleyes.gif

However , i think it won't boost the smoothness of the HD movie playing. Decoding HD movie is likely dependent on the CPU if i'm not mistaken wink.gif


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QUOTE(byfc2010 @ Sep 29 2007, 11:43 PM)
how come the site shows the specs of Athlon 64 3800+ while showing a pic of Athlon 64 x2 3800+...
swt those chinaman...
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they are selling those proc to their own buddies , so i guess the seller don't really care about the spec and just simply put. FYI , it is X2 3800+ tray version , 65w , F3 stepping a.k.a CZ stepping . Those are 'handpicked' procs , which means guarantee oc ability by them icon_rolleyes.gif

will keep on updates u guys until i get the proc, then we will chat about it in garage sales section smile.gif

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OMG...F3 processor. Nice man rclxms.gif
Post some screenie while you guys get it smile.gif

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