brisbane core can overclock much higher? i don't think so. So far i nv see any guy in LYN overclock his brisbane more than 3.2GHz and i don't think most of the brisbane capable to do that.

the correct way to say, brisbane is easier to overclock and does not require a great board to get it around 3ghz. On the other hand, windsor is harder to OC due to the heat/vcore and its pretty stubborn. But once you get a windsy up, its way faster than brisby clock per clock.

seems like if u change ur ram speed, u can oc higher??

If u got lucky and got good mobo etc, maybe  u can reach 3.0ghz from stock 2.0ghz..5200+ i think is good. but better if u can get F3 stepping as it can oc higher than F2.5200+ CZ is F3 stepping and i think its worth if u try it......

If you are mentioning windsor F3, then i would say that windsor F3 is much more better than brisbane , in terms of performance, overclock ability , as well as the temperature after overclocking. 65nm SOI from AMD is just a mess , they just simply make it in order to compete with their opponent.

i really fed up with brisbane core already bcoz it lacks in many things. The DTS spoiled , higher L2 cache latency ( this one caused the performance low ) , and the integrated memory controller also seem abit cacat .

A s754 proc can bench faster than am2 proc in Spi? Really hard to believe it as s754 proc does not support dual channel, suppose there will be a big gap in term of performance between these 2.

and how far can a windsor F3 go? Lately i'm bringing in some CZ goodies , we will see that very soon    
FYI, i'm a F3 windsor user now , highest clock that i hit is 3.35GHz. you can check OC database for my screenshot.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/321443

what is the current vcore are u using now???

what HSF??

sure cannot pass 2.45Ghz?

k.. not same with vista.. actly just focusing on xp.. more game can play.. haha.. hardcore gamer.. i'm using my pc for design sofware n game.. it's up to pandangan masing2 rite...