Technical A n00bie's foray into the x-clamp solution, Definitely not for the faint hearted
Technical A n00bie's foray into the x-clamp solution, Definitely not for the faint hearted
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Nov 14 2007, 02:50 AM
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hoho im no good at cutting mah jst bought dremel.. well ill post pics as soon as im done doing watercooling (thanx for the guide lksing78) .. and fan mod and air flow mod<--simple mod
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Nov 19 2007, 01:37 PM
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Newbie here... can't believe the procedures... so daring and un-Microsoft-ish... Not a bad thing and how can I prise open a new baby ? A single scratch and I will be on the floor... |
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Nov 20 2007, 10:54 PM
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We'll do anything when we're desperate...just like some house wives...
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Dec 1 2007, 06:44 PM
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582 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Shah Alam |
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Dec 3 2007, 01:10 PM
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Thanks for this awesome guide mr Gurdian. It works.
I have successfully revived my dead 360 by mostly following this guide (I did take some detours here and there). Great job Gurdian!!! As stated somewhere in this thread, the washers and bolts can be found at jalan ipoh. The shop is actually quite easy to find. If you're coming from Chow Kit, go into jalan ipoh and head straight on until you see a public bank on your right hand-side. Keep right. The shop is on the block behind public bank. You should look for Advance Bolts & Fasteners. The cost for those nylon washers is around 16 sen apiece. Metal ones are 1 sen (though you dont need metal ones if you're following this guide). As for the arctic silver 5, it is very hard to find nowadays, so you can substitute it with other thermal compound. Mr rezalida recommended me coolermaster. But somehow, by sheer luck (and through unconventional means) , I managed to get my hands on some AS5. So, if you're in the Klang Valley and in need for AS5 for your 360 surgical purposes, just drop me a PM. Now the arctic cleaner is a bit of a problem. I cant find any on our local shores. Even tried selling my soul to the devil but still no dice. So what I did was I used some good 'ol Jack Daniels to clean up the mess on the heatsinks and CPU/GPU. Make sure you use it neat. None of that coke or on-the-rocks business. For the torx screwdrivers, the best bargain is at jalan pasar. You'll find loads of them there. A t10 and a t9 would cost you around RM6 or 7. And please read the 'Director's Cut' section of this guide. Over heating the console is actually an essential step. And if you ever encounter a 0020 after putting the washers and bolts, that maybe caused by the tightness of the screws. Just tweak around with them until you find the right tension. So good luck to those who wants to deal with their 3ROD DIY-Style. It's not really that hard. And to those who are not willing to go through this path, just send your consoles to the trained professionals from this community for help. I'm sure they're willing to accomodate. Thanks again, Gurdian for this guide. A special Thank you to rezalida for those helpful hints. P/S: I was just kidding with the Jack Daniels stuff. Nope, I didnt use JD for a cleaner. I substituted Arctic Cleaner with the alcohol used to clean tape head decks. You can find it in any AV store. Cost around RM3.50 (in jln pasar its like RM2.50). But if you use it, be prepared for a whole lot of scrubbing and make sure you have enough cotton buds and wool. |
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Dec 4 2007, 04:18 AM
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dusty 360 lol.. neway good job
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Dec 5 2007, 03:05 AM
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for the water cooling system, is it enough just water cool the gpu rather than both of the chips??
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Dec 19 2007, 05:51 PM
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how much the charges for x-clamp removal if 3ROD problem happen?
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Jan 7 2008, 11:02 PM
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where to get washer and screw like this..
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Jan 8 2008, 08:28 AM
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Jan 8 2008, 08:03 PM
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Just revived mine. I cut 2 of my finger just by removing the whole casing ( damn, I haven even started yet ). I was short of 1 nylon washer ( I think that b******* miscalculate 1 washer ) and I also end up using M6 ( m5 out of stock WTF ? ). 1 of the back I had to combine 2 steel washer just to get the same size as the nylon washer. Hope it doesn't break.
But after put everything back, I still got 3 rod then became 2 rod. I lost all my hope and try the final solution and pray that it works Ts, if you don't mind adding this guide. I was actually reading 3 different guides on how to do x-clamp There little trick. You need to overheat the GPU. There is one major flaw with this approach. The thermosistor for the overheating protection of the 360 is contained within the CPU. So the problem is that the CPU overheats without any airflow before the GPU is able to get sufficiently hot to "reflow" the BGA solder connection. In order to cool the CPU but not the GPU it is again important to have your fan shroud removed. Now take your fan that IS plugged in and lay it on top of your DVD drive with one of the fan's over the top of the CPU. This will keep the CPU plenty cool to prevent it from overheating while the GPU. Power up the console and let it run for 10-15 minit with 3rod WITH FAN BLOWING TO THE CPU. MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T GOES TO 2ROD. IF YOU NEED A BIGGER FAN TO BLOW THE CPU, THEN USE A NORMAL FAN. After 10-15 minit, off the console and let everything cooldown. Just put back as ts said for temporary and pray it works. I did this way and i revive my console. This post has been edited by MmxZero: Jan 8 2008, 08:12 PM |
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Jan 9 2008, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(MmxZero @ Jan 8 2008, 08:03 PM) Just revived mine. I cut 2 of my finger just by removing the whole casing ( damn, I haven even started yet ). I was short of 1 nylon washer ( I think that b******* miscalculate 1 washer ) and I also end up using M6 ( m5 out of stock WTF ? ). 1 of the back I had to combine 2 steel washer just to get the same size as the nylon washer. Hope it doesn't break. after a month of constant playing the console, report back if your 360 is free from 3rod. a bit scary, since you cook it for such long period, scared the GPU almost die..But after put everything back, I still got 3 rod then became 2 rod. I lost all my hope and try the final solution and pray that it works Ts, if you don't mind adding this guide. I was actually reading 3 different guides on how to do x-clamp There little trick. You need to overheat the GPU. There is one major flaw with this approach. The thermosistor for the overheating protection of the 360 is contained within the CPU. So the problem is that the CPU overheats without any airflow before the GPU is able to get sufficiently hot to "reflow" the BGA solder connection. In order to cool the CPU but not the GPU it is again important to have your fan shroud removed. Now take your fan that IS plugged in and lay it on top of your DVD drive with one of the fan's over the top of the CPU. This will keep the CPU plenty cool to prevent it from overheating while the GPU. Power up the console and let it run for 10-15 minit with 3rod WITH FAN BLOWING TO THE CPU. MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T GOES TO 2ROD. IF YOU NEED A BIGGER FAN TO BLOW THE CPU, THEN USE A NORMAL FAN. After 10-15 minit, off the console and let everything cooldown. Just put back as ts said for temporary and pray it works. I did this way and i revive my console. |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jan 9 2008, 08:08 PM) after a month of constant playing the console, report back if your 360 is free from 3rod. a bit scary, since you cook it for such long period, scared the GPU almost die.. No. The MASTER Rezalid said you must have to do this way in order to revive most of the time.. He went to 2rod for 2 minit just to overheat the GPU.If you check out other guide from Xbox scene or others, they will also suggest this method. This post has been edited by MmxZero: Jan 9 2008, 09:01 PM |
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Jan 9 2008, 11:08 PM
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but u cook it for 10-15 minutes leh.
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Jan 11 2008, 01:16 AM
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Jan 11 2008, 10:43 PM
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Jan 12 2008, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(mazdagtr210 @ Jan 11 2008, 10:43 PM) Wanna share with u all. Now got new method for fixing 3 rod of death. Just remove the x-clamp and fix it with 2stage washer and walla its working now.. no need to bend the mobo now ... hehehe ha? like that ar? i got one set no screws required just put the cpu and gpu heatsink on it can run ady. |
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Jan 12 2008, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(mazdagtr210 @ Jan 11 2008, 10:43 PM) Wanna share with u all. Now got new method for fixing 3 rod of death. Just remove the x-clamp and fix it with 2stage washer and walla its working now.. no need to bend the mobo now ... hehehe haha. nice nice..but you know.. is almost as same as the x clamp la. you remove the clamps and tighten the "black screw" right ? which also known as bending the mobo as well |
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Jan 12 2008, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Jan 12 2008, 01:09 AM) haha. nice nice.. remove x clamp - but no need to tighten the black screw( it adjustable), because i used special stage washer on it. but you know.. is almost as same as the x clamp la. you remove the clamps and tighten the "black screw" right ? which also known as bending the mobo as well |
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Jan 13 2008, 02:53 AM
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