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post Jan 27 2024, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 27 2024, 07:56 PM)
Same name as in like ssid is identical? Or like abc_5G and abc_6G can also? Cos mine is abc_2.4G and abc_5G default by router
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SSID should be identical these days
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jan 27 2024, 09:30 PM)
SSID should be identical these days
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mean both same or enable the smart connect at router? Problem is i don wan my 5ghz device connecting to 2.4g.
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jan 27 2024, 01:01 PM)
iOS will prompt a warning if 6Ghz is different name with 2.4/5Ghz as well

Best practice nowadays is to use same name
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I dun have Iphone 15 pro series (only series with Wi-Fi 6E) with me though.

I do have few Wi-Fi 6E devices at home so i can just rename the 6Ghz as same SSID with 2.4Ghz/5Ghz so the client will auto switch it self ?

QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 27 2024, 07:56 PM)
Same name as in like ssid is identical? Or like abc_5G and abc_6G can also? Cos mine is abc_2.4G and abc_5G default by router
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Mesh router normally combine into one SSID (2.4Ghz and 5Ghz) so the client can auto switch whenever it's strong signal exclude Wi-Fi 6E default with "_6ghz" index behind
if rename to all same meaning sort of "combine" and client will auto detect and connect.

QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 28 2024, 05:04 AM)
mean both same or enable the smart connect at router? Problem is i don wan my 5ghz device connecting to 2.4g.
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Create a guest network with only 2.4Ghz tongue.gif
But now router has those "IoT network" separate out SSID
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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jan 29 2024, 08:35 AM)
I dun have Iphone 15 pro series (only series with Wi-Fi 6E) with me though.

I do have few Wi-Fi 6E devices at home so i can just rename the 6Ghz as same SSID with 2.4Ghz/5Ghz so the client will auto switch it self ?
Mesh router normally combine into one SSID (2.4Ghz and 5Ghz) so the client can auto switch whenever it's strong signal exclude Wi-Fi 6E default with "_6ghz" index behind
if rename to all same meaning sort of "combine" and client will auto detect and connect.
Create a guest network with only 2.4Ghz tongue.gif
But now router has those "IoT network" separate out SSID
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Ohh, i prefer to control which connect 2.4g which connect 5g lol. Asus do have smart connect with band steering bla bla. Asus don have IoT thingy i think lol. My uncle sharing my wifi also they connect 2.4g, ancient phone so yeah, better just separate lol
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 29 2024, 12:52 PM)
Ohh, i prefer to control which connect 2.4g which connect 5g lol. Asus do have smart connect with band steering bla bla. Asus don have IoT thingy i think lol. My uncle sharing my wifi also they connect 2.4g, ancient phone so yeah, better just separate lol
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I prefer the router and client auto switch themselves XD

Further range auto switch to 2.4Ghz and vice versa

While most of my IoT using guest network with 2.4Ghz for stable link

Wait XE75 come and see how adjust later tongue.gif

Only issue is my x20 is v1 which does not support IoT network (only v3 and v4) which is a bummer for early adopter doh.gif
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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jan 29 2024, 01:36 PM)
I prefer the router and client auto switch themselves XD

Further range auto switch to 2.4Ghz and vice versa

While most of my IoT using guest network with 2.4Ghz for stable link

Wait XE75 come and see how adjust later  tongue.gif

Only issue is my x20 is v1 which does not support IoT network (only v3 and v4) which is a bummer for early adopter  doh.gif
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diff ppl diff preference lol. because if it based on SNR, it will always connect for 2.4g but actually 5g is still within good range. not 2k sqft house, so self control better, same like drive manual car biggrin.gif
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post Jan 29 2024, 09:34 PM

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guys.. what is current unifi model router they offer? still TPLink C200?
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post Jan 29 2024, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(realventis @ Jan 29 2024, 09:34 PM)
guys.. what is current unifi model router they offer? still TPLink C200?
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Fiberhome - ax1800/ax3000
Dlink- x1860z/3060

Have yet to see anyone getting tp link ax model.


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post Jan 29 2024, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jan 29 2024, 01:36 PM)
I prefer the router and client auto switch themselves XD

Further range auto switch to 2.4Ghz and vice versa

While most of my IoT using guest network with 2.4Ghz for stable link

Wait XE75 come and see how adjust later  tongue.gif

Only issue is my x20 is v1 which does not support IoT network (only v3 and v4) which is a bummer for early adopter  doh.gif
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And this is one big problem with Tp-link or their subsidiary Mercusys devices that they make.

Too many versions of a device with slight alterations due to hardware/chips supply.

And I took one 2 days to fully compared the different hardware versions of x20 and x50, reasons being ,I'm interested with the IoT network, signal source, connection preference . And lately they added ECO mode to it but only on V3 and above for x20 deco.

Imagine a normal user, they won't even ask dealer/vendor about this as they don't even know in the first place. And by the time you get it and open it up, is already too late to realize about the firmware differences, hopefully those features will come to v2 and v1.

Deco x10 is the worst..totally cut off from future supports for now
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QUOTE(Omochao @ Jan 29 2024, 11:47 PM)
And this is one big problem with Tp-link or their subsidiary Mercusys devices that they make.

Too many versions of a device with slight alterations due to hardware/chips supply.

And I took one 2 days to fully compared the different hardware versions of x20 and x50, reasons being ,I'm interested with the IoT network, signal source, connection preference . And lately they added ECO mode to it but only on V3 and above for x20 deco.

Imagine a normal user, they won't even ask dealer/vendor about this as they don't even know in the first place. And by the time you get it and open it up, is already too late to realize about the firmware differences, hopefully those features will come to v2 and v1.

Deco x10 is the worst..totally cut off from future supports for now
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Yea, hate to have these v1,v2 things unless u ask the seller to check before buy (online)
Physical store can directly check the box there.

Not only TP-Link actually, some of those IoT brand example bulb and wall plug also having these issue of different hardware version and support differ firmware.
Such as the Matter compatibility right now, the compatibility lists mentioned this model is supported but hardware ID not support puke.gif doh.gif

Deco x10 basically is a normal + cutoff version of all deco with less feature.

This post has been edited by TongCN: Jan 30 2024, 08:38 AM
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post Jan 30 2024, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jan 30 2024, 08:37 AM)
Yea, hate to have these v1,v2 things unless u ask the seller to check before buy (online)
Physical store can directly check the box there.

Not only TP-Link actually, some of those IoT brand example bulb and wall plug also having these issue of different hardware version and support differ firmware.
Such as the Matter compatibility right now, the compatibility lists mentioned this model is supported but hardware ID not support  puke.gif  doh.gif

Deco x10 basically is a normal + cutoff version of all deco with less feature.
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From what I've gathered online, TP-link got many factories all over the world, chips supply is not consistent or they never keep stock on hold for production.
Also due to certain region wifi power limit regulations, they need to adjust base on that region. So in the end, come out with many types of hardware revisions.

Yes, I even read some complained about Tapo cameras with the later versions had bad microphone sound, but the older ones is better mic but slower processing hardware.

Hopefully they can at least standardize it more in the future even with different hardwares.

Feels bad for those early buyers of Deco X10, device is great, but the lack of firmware update support is terrible. If they can't handle it, why don't just release the source code and allow the community to cook up a good customized firmware of decos.
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https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/kb/detail/412754

https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/forum/topic/621608

This is a must read for those who are going to venture into TP-Link lineup, at least you know which hardware you should go for before committing into buying it.

At the very least, you won't have a headache of missing out functions or disappearing options due to different hardware revisions when setting up different mesh in a network.
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QUOTE(Omochao @ Jan 30 2024, 09:19 AM)
From what I've gathered online, TP-link got many factories all over the world, chips supply is not consistent or they never keep stock on hold for production.
Also due to certain region wifi power limit regulations, they need to adjust base on that region. So in the end, come out with many types of hardware revisions.

Yes, I even read some complained about Tapo cameras with the later versions had bad microphone sound, but the older ones is better mic but slower processing hardware.

Hopefully they can at least standardize it more in the future even with different hardwares.

Feels bad for those early buyers of Deco X10, device is great, but the lack of firmware update support is terrible. If they can't handle it, why don't just release the source code and allow the community to cook up a good customized firmware of decos.
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Let's just hope they continue support those v1 & v2 variants (technically early adopters or beta tester sweat.gif )

Now i dunno which version i will get for my Deco XE75, lol..
Based on deco forum, it seems like v1 firmware more advance than v2 model.
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i'm currently using mercusys halo h80x. i couldn't figure out how to check how many hours have the device been connected to the internet...
does anyone know?
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QUOTE(SnowWhiteTan @ Jan 30 2024, 09:53 AM)
i'm currently using mercusys halo h80x. i couldn't figure out how to check how many hours have the device been connected to the internet...
does anyone know?
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Yes, Mercusys app lacking on this. Very basic and minimal straight forward orange red hue app. biggrin.gif Not even the login page too..

Perhaps you could do a screenshot and use the report function in the app to send in a support ticket, but be warn, the way of reply and style is somewhat confusing for us to decipher.

I think their support is run by a team of part timers mainland.

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jan 30 2024, 09:35 AM)
Let's just hope they continue support those v1 & v2 variants (technically early adopters or beta tester  sweat.gif )

Now i dunno which version i will get for my Deco XE75, lol..
Based on deco forum, it seems like v1 firmware more advance than v2 model.
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Is not that they dont want to support , is hardware limitations probably, and at the rate they are releasing new routers or mesh, is better to focus on newer products. Very China style of doing things, like how they always drop off support for 1/2 years old devices after launching. But if they follow xiaomi footsteps and churn out newer firmwares, that would also be another whole set of issues as xiaomi always release new firmware with new features, but one thing or another gets broken along the way and need to wait for another new update to rectify it.

I hope Tp-Link won't go down this way of doing things. Infact, I found out from other forums, their mesh source code is actually based on OpenWrt. Hope they can really make full use of it.
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So received my XE75 and it's a v1 :\

After done setup, feels like there one part downgrade which is :

1) X20 v1 has this home care: https://www.tp-link.com/us/homecare/ which is free and quite good to use (at least last time blocked me from certain site or ads)

2) XE75 now is Homeshield Subscription based and basic (free) doesnt even provide Malicious site blocking :\
3) XE75 also dun have speed test build in anymore sweat.gif

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 2 2024, 08:19 AM)
So received my XE75 and it's a v1 :\

After done setup, feels like there one part downgrade which is :

1) X20 v1 has this home care: https://www.tp-link.com/us/homecare/ which is free and quite good to use (at least last time blocked me from certain site or ads)

2) XE75 now is Homeshield Subscription based and basic (free) doesnt even provide Malicious site blocking :\
3) XE75 also dun have speed test build in anymore  sweat.gif
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x50 and above all using homeshield..so unless you want free homecare basic, you need to change the main node x20, but then it seems like intentionally bottle necking your hardware.

have you try changing tp link region , europe,global,us and some other foreign country in english? i notice for example , x20 deco has different versions for each country despite same hardware versions. you can try playing around with that
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QUOTE(Omochao @ Feb 2 2024, 12:22 PM)
x50 and above all using homeshield..so unless you want free homecare basic, you need to change the main node x20, but then it seems like intentionally bottle necking your hardware.

have you try changing tp link region , europe,global,us and some other foreign country in english? i notice for example , x20 deco has different versions for each country despite same hardware versions. you can try playing around with that
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If using x20 as main deco then feels waste for my xe75 lol

Gonna test homeshield Trial 30 days first and see

Never try the region thing though. Under account?
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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 2 2024, 01:14 PM)
If using x20 as main deco then feels waste for my xe75 lol

Gonna test homeshield Trial 30 days first and see

Never try the region thing though. Under account?
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Yes, wasted a lot but that's the only way, for networking features and functions, really depends on which one you using for the main node.

Check with this link, different region , different firmware versions, also try to take note for hardware version.
https://www.tp-link.com/my/choose-your-location/

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