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unknown warrior
post Feb 12 2019, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 12 2019, 11:00 AM)
Yes. I adore my parents. But I do not worship them on a pedestal.

Look at their catechism on their thread OP
You and i are not in church of Christ.  biggrin.gif
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It always has been that way from Catholic POV.


QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 12 2019, 11:00 AM)
On Islam, it seems they are acknowledged in the plan of God's salvation
Look at this statement by the pope. Is this God's will?

It adds that “freedom is a right of every person: each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action” and that “pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God”.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world...ae4ed35b05ac514
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probably for political reasons. Don't let it affect you.
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post Feb 12 2019, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 12 2019, 11:35 AM)
It always has been that way from Catholic POV.
probably for political reasons. Don't let it affect you.
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THAT was from their catechism.

It does not affect me. Only affects me in that their 'church' is an abomination to God in their gospel message.
Same goes for word faith churches.

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post Feb 12 2019, 12:30 PM

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Actually what is Catholic talk about when they said church for mother?
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post Feb 12 2019, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 12 2019, 08:16 AM)
Amen to that!

The only instruction/guide for life is the revelation of God through scriptures. Where else can we find life?
Otherwise we will be worshipping false gods through traditions, and that includes those who mix traditions with scriptures aka Easters, Christmas, etc.

That will probably get so some nerves here.  laugh.gif
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Good question, where else can we find life besides Sacred Scriptures ?

We know that life comes from God himself, in Sacred Scriptures.

Life also permanates from the Blessed Sacrement.

Most importantly of all, is our Lord Jesus Christ himself who blesses with anyone with the Holy Spirit and fire 🔥. Now that's real everlasting life.

I remember a wise priest once said, "If it's faith that one is seeking for, seek those who can help us, in increasing our faith." In simple words, look for those who has been born again.


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post Feb 12 2019, 05:53 PM

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Oops 2x post ! Sorry.

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post Feb 12 2019, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Feb 12 2019, 12:30 PM)
Actually what is Catholic talk about when they said church for mother?
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Never heard of that expression before "Church for mother."

Oops looks like I've jumped the gun, based on a document dated in 1856 !!!

As men are slowly enlightened over the ages, now I am thinking should I write about this or let it belong to the period 1856 for good ?



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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 12 2019, 09:39 AM)
Is this for real? Then how come Yeeck seem to post a lot of Catholic devotions? Or He just copy and paste, not really studying it for himself?  hmm.gif
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I presume Yeeck must have the key to Vatican's vault.

To tell you the truth, I rarely read everything for individuals like me at a beginners level, I find Sacred Scriptures is easier to understand compared to all the letters that's in the archive. Of course all is not of my work alone but rather it is our Teacher who teaches directly.

Besides that I rather seek the approval of God & be witness the His miracles and love ❤️ than seek the approval of man.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 12 2019, 11:35 AM)
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probably for political reasons. .....
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Sounds like the government huh ?

Cripple the British Education System and now the country is in a complete disaster !

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post Feb 12 2019, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 12 2019, 05:59 PM)
Never heard of that expression before "Church for mother."

Oops looks like I've jumped the gun, based on a document dated in 1856 !!!

As men are slowly enlightened over the ages, now I am thinking should I write about this or let it belong to the period 1856 for good ?
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Anyway I don't think anyone qualified to be called infallible other than Jesus Christ, be it mary or pope



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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Feb 12 2019, 07:24 PM)
Anyway I don't think anyone qualified to be called infallible other than Jesus Christ, be it mary or pope
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To me, anyone who is born again is already infallible. Anyone including you too. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 7 2019, 05:58 PM)
Yes, it's the greatest heritage ever. I think I can safely assume that the Jews teach their young directly from the Torah itself, likewise the Muslims with their Quran, however I can't say the same for Catholics. I wonder if this is an worldwide issue, that the Roman Catholic Church had decided to do away with the Holy Bible.

I have no idea if any of other Christian denominations uses their Holy Bible in teaching the faith or have they too substituted their Holy Bible for something else like the Catholics.
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That's a very serious accusation there.

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Scripture is only one of the sources for Catholic teaching, alongside Tradition and the Magisterium, which have to be in harmony. As you should have known already, the "Scripture Alone" position is the cause of the multiple sects of Protestantism, because each person interprets Scripture "to their own destruction" (2 Pet 3:16).
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 12 2019, 10:14 AM)
Generally they are not encouraged to study the scriptures.
Some like our brother here may do that.
However, the thing is, after studying the scriptures, they still practice the traditional rites, some which are in conflict with scriptures.
And justifying their actions by traditions and denying their acts being against scriptures. eg Marian worship
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Sigh. I think I have posted enough in the past regarding the different degrees of worship.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 12 2019, 10:38 AM)
The issue with their 'adoration' borders on worship.

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YOu shall have no other gods before me.
YOU shall not make any graven image and bow down before them
Conveniently forgotten.
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Again, I've addressed this in the past.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 12 2019, 10:45 AM)
Medical Science today confirms, a baby does not get blood from the Mother. Life is in the blood.

IMO Jesus can be born Sinless because he's conceived by the HS, Mary's body supplied oxygen and nutrients but not the blood.

in summary: Mary has sin like all of us and thus should not be adored until borderline worship.
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It is the angel Gabriel (a messenger from God, thus it is God Himself messagewise), who calls her "full of grace".

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Feb 12 2019, 07:24 PM)
Anyway I don't think anyone qualified to be called infallible other than Jesus Christ, be it mary or pope
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Well, see Luke 10:16, and Matthew 16:19. The authority was given by Christ Himself to others.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 12 2019, 07:43 PM)
To me, anyone who is born again is already infallible. Anyone including you too. wink.gif
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I think that's a self-made teaching of yours.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Feb 13 2019, 02:23 PM)
That's a very serious accusation there.

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Scripture is only one of the sources for Catholic teaching, alongside Tradition and the Magisterium, which have to be in harmony. As you should have known already, the "Scripture Alone" position is the cause of the multiple sects of Protestantism, because each person interprets Scripture "to their own destruction" (2 Pet 3:16).
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The existence of different denomination other than Roman Catholic exist much earlier than protestant, in fact first and second century

Pope but which pope? Coptic pope or orthodox pope?



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QUOTE(yeeck @ Feb 13 2019, 02:28 PM)
It is the angel Gabriel (a messenger from God, thus it is God Himself messagewise), who calls her "full of grace".
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I would agree Mary IS highly favor for a simple reason; she's the one chosen to born Christ, that is all. In that sense, She is highly favored in the context of being chosen compared to all the women in the world. That does not mean she suddenly become sinless. That would contradict the truth and consistency of God's word when scripture clearly tells us, All have sin and fallen short....else it should have recorded, All have sin and fallen short "accept for Mary".

If indeed Mary has the same Fullness of Grace as Christ did, Bible would have recorded of her dispensing miraculous powers of the Lord. But there was none. And if you're going to quote, she gave birth without pain according to rabbinical writings (I wouldn't take that as scripture truth), sorry bro, those are miraculous power of God that came on her, not her performing miracles, that's the difference.

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Feb 13 2019, 02:23 PM)
That's a very serious accusation there.

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Scripture is only one of the sources for Catholic teaching, alongside Tradition and the Magisterium, which have to be in harmony. As you should have known already, the "Scripture Alone" position is the cause of the multiple sects of Protestantism, because each person interprets Scripture "to their own destruction" (2 Pet 3:16).
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Of course it's serious. It's so serious that it made me write a letter to The Herald, that never publish it nor was there any reply regarding the absence of the Holy Bible during in Catechism classes !

Now before I posted that letter, a copy was given to 2 Parish Priests and Asst. Parish Priest and a nun from a religious order.

So, if any of the Church authority is reading this now, you may ask among your clergy, if there's such an accusation ever made by a laity ? A commoner, a nobody.

I have no intention to be well known but I would be extremely grateful if the Holy Bible was REINTRODUCED into Catechism classes, that's all. I hope that is not too much to ask.






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post Feb 13 2019, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Feb 13 2019, 02:33 PM)
I think that's a self-made teaching of yours.
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Self-made teaching of mine ?

If I came in my own name, there's absolutely nothing that's worth teaching, ever that I can guarantee. But I come not in my name but in the name of my Lord, Jesus Christ.

Let's simply talk about infallible and being born again of the Spirit and about my self-made teaching.

"To me, anyone who is born again is already infallible." - Roman Catholic.

The Roman Catholic Church says that our Pope is infallible in terms of faith & morals. Now, that I believe without a doubt, because that's in line with Sacred Scriptures.

1. Our Pope is guided by the Holy Spirit i.e. Born again.
2. Since the Pope is guided by the Holy Spirit, The Truth, hence It's infallible because God is Truth.

Tell us, which is easier to say, the "self-made teaching" or the other long extended version ?

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